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Carol Martin 17/04/2012 21:26:18

I have been trying to find a Richard Fowler born 1776 .On the 1841 census in Birmingham it says Richard was born out of County,so i don`t know where he was born,he died in 1845. Any ideas how i can find out where Richard was born. He was married to Ann i found 2 children Martha born 1820 in Birmingham and John born 1830.but John was not living with Richard in 1841 cant find any birth`s for john and martha. Thankyou Carol

That's jolly bad luck, as in these cases you pray that the person will have survived until 1851! You could look for other Fowlers of similar age in the 1851 census for Birmingham, in the hope that they will turn out to be siblings of Christopher's, and that their birth place will lead to his. Otherwise, Fowler is a familiar local name in that area, and bear in mind that Birmingham (Warwickshire) was near the meeting point of Staffordshire and Worcestershire (and not far from Leicestershire), so those would be the counties worth trying first.

Carolyne Price 17/04/2012 21:19:52

Hi Anthony, I've recently started to try and piece together my family tree but would really like your expertise to help with a problem I've come across. My nan who was named (Alice Maud Cullen) parents were John Cullen & Elizabeth Cullen nee Cope from nan's birth certificate. I can't find a marriage for them or on the census. On the 1911 census I found them but he is down as James Cullen not John. Searched for marriage on both John & James but nothing.Census says they married approx 1901 & Elizabeth remarried in 1917. I need advice on where to look next, have tried FREEBMD etc & parish records, Expect they would have married in West Derby, Liverpool Hope you can helpme, greatly appreciated Carolyne

Free BMD is not complete, and there are only a few parish registers on this site, and not for the period you want. You need to look in the General Register Office's marriage indexes. They have been indexed on this site, under 'search records'. As you know your great grandfather was called John, are you quite sure the entry you have found for 'James' is correct? Bear in mind that they may not have married in England and Wales. 'Cullen' has strong Manx connections.

Elizabeth Dixon 17/04/2012 21:18:25

I am looking for Robert Stubbs who I think was born in 1815 and hopefully is the father of Edgar Stubbs born April 1839 in Cayton, Scarborough, my Great Grandfather. Any help in how to find him please.

Well, if you're not sure, you want to focus on Edgar, and learn more about him first, and this will provide you with greater certainty on his father. Look for both Edgar's marriage and birth records, as both will name his father, and seek him in the earlier censuses, where you will hopefully find him with his father. The censuses will say where his father was born, and roughly when, and you can then seek his baptism in the relevant parish register.

Pauline McGinlay 17/04/2012 21:18:08

can gt.gt.grandmother be found by name.we were told had to know what court she was sentenced at.we dont know her name Agnes Ella Berry.nee Bailey. born 1878 died 1976

I'm not quite sure I understand the question here (you say you don't know her name, and then say what it was), so please come back and ask more: you're right about court records, but you can make an educated guess as to where she is likely to have committed her crime, and been sentenced, on the basis of where she lived, and newspapers local to her home are likely to have reported her misdemeanours anyway.

Jake Duffy 17/04/2012 21:16:42

Hi Anthony, i want to find out who my ancestors are and where they are from. how do i do this? im a beginner by the way. thanks.

That's a big question to ask! I wrote a book called Tracing Your Family History (published by Collins) that answers it. You can start by typing your family tree such as you know it into this site, and seeing if it results in any matches - these could be relatives, who may be able to tell you more. Then start looking for your parents and grandparents in the birth, marriage and death indexes (under 'search records') and when you get back to 1911, start looking them up in the censuses (also under 'search records').

Julia Goodrum 17/04/2012 21:15:06

Thank you for this Anthony, may i ask a second question? Do you know under what circumstances divorce was allowed? Is it possible to get a divorce certificate in the same way it is possible to get a marriage certificate?

By all means! Divorce in that period was still quite unusual, as it was expensive, and a difficult procedure. The records are at Divorce records for the period 1858 to 1943 are at the National Archives (class J 77), and searchable through www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk. I've had a quick look and - bingo - there they are in 1902, under Gooderham (lucky and sensible you for taking into account variant spellings!) The link is http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-3082581&CATLN=7&Highlight=%2CGOODERHAM%2CGOODERHAM&accessmethod=0,

Pauline McGinlay 17/04/2012 21:12:34

I am trying to find a cousin.who since doing time and being released seems to have vanished.for family reasons we need to find him.could be dead.but cant find him.where do i look to find up to date death records.he was last seen in 2009.Raymond Anthony Attwater.

Death records for recent years are available on microfiche in a limited number of record repositories, including the London Metropolitan Archives. It's a bit of our national record system that hasn't gone high-tech!

Kenneth Annal 17/04/2012 21:10:09

How do I look at other family trees ???

Once you have found a promising-looking character in another tree (using the 'search trees' button, above) you can press the button that allows you to send a message to the person whose tree it is, and explain who you are. They may then allow you access to their tree- in which case you will be able to see it.

Julia Goodrum 17/04/2012 21:04:39

My Great Grandfather William Goodrum- (1875 - 1953 sometimes known as Gooderham), was married, (in 1897), to my Great Grandmother Bernice Kite, (born 1877 –we have been unable to find out when she died) , they had my Grandfather William Goodrum – 1897, (I believe my Gt Grandad had 5 children altogether but I’m not sure how many were with his first wife and how many were with his second wife). My Great Grandparents then divorced, (do not know when), and my Gt Grandfather subsequently remarried, (1903), Louisa Blackburn –(1868 – 1829). I have seen both wedding certificates, (on the second one my Grandad is down as the divorced husband of Bernice Kite), he was married both times in church. Do you know of any reasons why a divorced man might be allowed to remarry in this time period?

You are lucky to have such nice, distinctive names to research. Catholics who have been divorced are not allowed to remarry, but I presume you're talking here about an Anglican wedding. I don't know chapter and verse on this, but as the Anglican Church is effectively an arm of the state, I'd guess that they accepted that a properly granted divorce left both parties free to re-marry - in church if they wished. For more details you'd better ask a vicar!

Emma James 17/04/2012 21:04:10

Hi I am having problems with my tree, the relatives are connecting to the wrong people which leaves like a loop so i am unable to delete them. Is there any way of starting a new tree or deleting all except the tree owner? thanks

I am sorry to hear this: the last thing we want is people being connected to the wrong relatives! I'm afraid though that I have no expertise in the technical side of things, but the site's managers will help you - go to 'Contact us' under 'Help, above.

Pauline McGinlay 17/04/2012 21:02:35

How can i find out when my gt.gt grandmother was in holloway prison.all i know is she had a number tattoo on her arm,

That's a good question to start with. Prison records tend to be divided between the National Archives and local ones, which in this case would be the London Metropolitan Archives. They may not be publicly accessible for as recent a date as you will need - I don't know your Grandmother's dates - so alternatives would be court records of the newspapers, that would have reported her crime: it occurs to me that the newspapers that have been newly digitised on this site might help here.

Andrew Forsey 17/04/2012 21:02:34

hi ya how can i find out if and when my grandfather joined the raf and find out about his milatary career if he only did his national service? his name is frank forsey born 1907 in nottingham?

If you can prove you are the next of kin of a deceased serviceman who was in the RAF, you can contact the RAF Personnel and Training Command, Branch PG 5a(2) (for officers) and P Man 2b(1) (for non-officers), RAF Innsworth, Gloucestershire, GL3 1EZ. Those for the Fleet Air Arm are at the Ministry of Defence, CS(R)2, Bourne Avenue, Hayes, Middlesex, UB3 1FR.

Liz Daykin 20/03/2012 21:53:57

Hi Joseph Lockwood was born 1864 in Harlington Yorks. ( birth place alos given on census as Doncaster.) He moved to Manchester and married Sarah Jane Grimshaw and is listed on the 1891 census in Broughton with his wife and son Edgar Norman aged 3. He then disappears. I havent found the family on 1901 but found Sarah and Edgar on the 1911 census. Sarah is listed as married but written on the census sheet is ' husband not heard of for 15 years"! I can't tally any of the death entries with Joseph- nor can i find him on the 1911 census listed in anther part of the country - same with the 1901 census. any suggestions what else I could try. Regards Liz Lockwood

How fascinating - but lucky that Sarah told you by writing that note. He may well have gone abroad - you could try the outgoing shipping lists, or the American censuses - or look in Ireland or Scotland. I'll wish you good luck, and with a man who deliberately 'went missing' from his family, you will probably need it!

Maureen Stanley 20/03/2012 21:50:33

Many thanks Anthony--it's a very poor image I'm afraid. Is it ok to send it to you in a couple of days when I've been to the records office to get a better copy. I've been searching for him for years!

The clearer the copy, the better. I should have mentioned another option - each attorney, scrivener or notary who wrote up wills had a seal for general use, and some of these look awfully like proper, armorial seals - but are not. It fact that two generations of your family used the same seal is encouraging - though of course it may just be that they'd used the same solicitor! But let's see it anyway.

Pamela Parkinson 20/03/2012 21:46:02

thank you. I'm sure I would have looked on this site for information on coleman as I have been looking for his death for a long time but I will look again, thanks

It's always worth re-checking - and remember that this site has not had these indexes for very long. .

Maureen Stanley 20/03/2012 21:37:50

Thanks again Anthony-the seal didn't match the description-looks more like wings on something & a shield with a cross on it. I've already searched the Derbys lines & if he was from them then a very distant connection & not found.! No, he was a husbandman on his will

Ok: a husbandman was a tenant farmer, though they might have sunk down from yeoman level - and thus from more exalted levels. The main thing, then, is to identify the arms. E-mail me a picture at mail@anthonyadolph.co.uk and I'll see what I can do.

Maureen Stanley 20/03/2012 21:20:36

Thanks Anthony-have checked the Kirkby-in-Ashfield register for Joseph Stanley to no avail nor does he appear on the IGI -do seals give any indication as to the origins of a family-I can just make out part of the seal he used on his will & it was used also on his son's will some 20 years later

Well done for having checked the original register. If the family were using the same seal from one generation to the next, and were using their arms properly, then it suggests they belonged to an armigerous family. Did Joseph describe himself as 'Esquire' or 'Gent'.? . I suggest looking them up in Burke's Landed Gentry. The Stanleys were Earls of Derby, so if you are very lucky your Joseph will appear in Burke's Peerage, in one of the junior lines. Their arms show three stags' heads on a bend - a bar running diagonally across the shield.

Richard Morgan 20/03/2012 21:15:33

thanks will try that, a more up to date question. My grandfather had a brother charles who we know went to new zealand but not sure when he was 6 when their father died in 1917 and the mother died 1928 but not sure if it was first date or second date he got moved to new zealand as an orphan how can i trace him

There are many outgoing ships' passenger lists on this website, but the bulk of this work is best tackled through the archives in New Zealand. Jeremy Palmer of Anzestry is a good person to ask.

Fred Addison 20/03/2012 21:15:13

Hi Anthony, some of my realtions are in the USA. I have traced some, but wonder if hot matches extend to America? Fred

Genes Reunited's membership is international, but if your relatives are not on the site, your best bet is to start seeking them through research in America. The Find My Past website has the 1940 American census, which is good way 'in' to research across the pond.

Sue Poole 20/03/2012 21:15:09

Sorry to submit another question but again on my materanl side the Couling/Cowling/Cooling's all came from Kempsford, Gloucs. Rumour, and it is rumour,is that the first Cowling/Couling/Cooling move to Kempsford to complete stonemasonery on the church following the death of the landowners wife. They moved from Oxford. How do I trace stonemasons in 1540-80 in the Oxford area. I know that masons have for many years been associated with socieities but back in the 16th century did they exsist and how do I find out this info from that time. Again thank you Sue

You are welcome! Masons and Freemasons had their lodges and knew who each other were, but they didn't leave us any nice records from that period to help our research. You've just got to rely on the usual sources, parish registers and wills, and hope that people who were masons will be identified as such. You may find a few in the freedom records of the borough of Oxford, if the records go back that far (I forget).