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Janet Wheeler 22/02/2011 21:03:18

Hi Anthony, Trying to locate non-conformist records for Lambeth, Stepney and Brixton areas ore 1837. Have date of birth of 1825 for a Sydney Austin Melhuish and know from his marriage that his father was John Robert Melhuish - a school master. Would love to be able to break this barrier and take my research further back. Any help much appreciated. Jan Melhuish

All the deposited Protestant nonconformist registers, pre- 1837, are in the National Archives in class RG4, and are now digitised at www.thegenealogist.co.uk. Failing that, try the local archives.

Elaine Wheatley 25/04/2006 21:17:08

Hello Antony.I have ancestors from Armagh, Northern Ireland and St Peter Port,Guernsey. Please can you tell me where I can find information online, as I have hit a brick wall. Many thanks Elaine

Principally in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland at 66 Balmoral Avenue, Belfast, BT9 6NY 028 9025 5905 http://proni.nics.gov.uk and the record repositaries of Guernsey, particularly the General Register Office, Royal Court House, St Peter Port, Guernsey GY1 2PD 01481 725277

Janice Whalley 19/07/2005 21:21:58

we are having great trouble trying to locate birth,marriage and death of a john whalley from hockley in essex.Any information we have found has been on censuses only.We have had a search done by the general registry office in southport and they also cannot find anything of him!He is on the 1861,1881and the 1901 census so we can't understand why no other information can be found,thankyou for any help,janice

Much more probably exists. I would suggest doing your own searches for his vital records, in the General Register Office, using a reputable guide (I might humbly suggest my own book, 'Tracing your Family History' (Collins, ISBN 0-00-715892-0), which has detailed sections on this. Also remember variant spellings- Whalley could easily have been recorded Walley, Whaley and so on.

Christine Whaite 19/02/2008 21:07:55

Thomas Frederick Holmes was a Master Mariner born in St Helier Jersey in 1856. He was purported to have been lost at sea sometime around 1890, his wife remarried and had further children with her second husband before 1900. We would love to find out if he really did die at sea or whether this was just family heresay to cover up some other dastardly deed. Any clues where to start, we have exhausted all the normal channels. Christine Whaite for Michael Holmes

It depends on what acxtual channels you have tried, but the Deaths at Sea is one you could explore - on www.findmypast.com. Records of merchant seamen are at The National Archives.

Denise Weyer 21/07/2009 21:30:21

Hi Anthony, I am having trouble finding my gt,gt,grandfather I know he died before 1880, it was on my gt,grandfathers marriage cert,I am stuck on both now as I dont know gt,Grandmothers name,my gt grandfather was born in London in 1861, can you help cheers Denise

I think you may be going wrong by not working back methodically. If you have the 1861 birth record, then next look for the parents' marriage. If not, seek the birth first. Censuses will help you gain further coordinates at each turn.

Denise Weyer 21/07/2009 21:59:03

Hi I have the marriage of my gt,grandfather but cant find any birth record,as I only have middlesex,london and nothing comes up anywhere thanks Denise

I suggest looking for this man's marriage record and then, if really stuck with his birth, try seeking the father in the censuses, or even seek his own marriage first. Thanks to you all for a very good series of questions tonight. Good luck with all those illegitimacies. I must stop now, as an hour's intensive question-answering is enough. Good luck!

Henry Westerman 21/02/2012 21:13:22

HI Anthony my grandmother name is Margaret Latham born about 1892 marred my grandfather Henry Boothin1913 in liverpool. Iam tring to find where she was born all i have is the marriage certificate and her father name is John Latham he was a Sailor has i am stuck on my grandmother side. thank you . Henry Westerman

Look for her and her father in the censuses. This will say where she was born,. Then, if it was in England and Wales, you can look in the indexes to these births, on this site. If you have done this and have not found her yet, try variants - Lathom, for example.

Susan West 22/02/2005 21:06:58

Hello Anthony, I have recently found out that my Grandfather changed his name from Reginald Gray to Robert McCormick around 1925.......How can I find out information on his first marriage and his children. I believe they lived in Lambeth and they had 10 children. But I don't know his wifes name. Am I hitting my head up against a brick wall? Many thanks Peter

It's a bizarre change of name - I wonder what motivated it. As you know the original name, there's nothing to stop you seeking his original marriage and the births of his first set of children in General Registration. As with the previous question, some patient and steady searching will be required, but the records should be there, all the same.

Helen West 20/07/2004 21:16:21

hell0 what is the best way of getting started i dont seem to have much to go on would my late father who has been dead for 20 years show up his name as i have put his information in and nothing shwes up he was d ivorced fom my mother over 60 years he was i the R a f thank you helen

It's a shame your father's name isn't in GenesReunited (aprt from on your page, of course). The best advice I can give actually is to read the last question and answer, as these also concern a beginner. There's lots on record so you should be able to find your father's marriage and birth records and then start tracing back further.

Little Welshy 24/04/2007 21:00:41

Dear Anthony, Hello and thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide. I have been trying to research my Binnersley family ancestors in Shropshire (Shifnal area in the main) 1: I was wondering if you had come across this family name or it’s possible derivation from the surname Billingsley? 2: One of these Binnersley ancestors of mine b 1907 was in Shelton Mental Hospital (nr Shrewsbury –and formally Bicton Heath Lunatic Asylum) from the mid 40s. His mother signed him into the institution and bar a brief escape in the 50s to the family home my grandfather never saw him again (this man was his uncle). I’ve found it hard locating a death entry for him and Shelton Hospital have informed me both by telephone and letter that the records kept on this patient have been destroyed in accordance with NHS regulations. Shropshire County Records Office also seem to have no records of admissions or discharges for Shelton only a large bundle of papers that need sorting through. (I was told this by email) Could you please advise? I am still hopeful that something that might turn up but do appreciate the 100 year rule and that Shropshire, as a county, adheres to this very closely. I have thought about provisions under FOI and also that it might be best to get my grandfather to become more ‘active’ in terms of signing letters as it was his uncle. I realise the need to prove the link and have all certs ordered. Thank you ever so much, Claire

I have not come across the surname before - it is presumably a locative surname, derived from a place - maybe there is a small place called Binnersley, or it may be a variant of something else. It doesn't sound similar enough to Billingsley to make that suggestion convincing - Barnslel, perhaps? As to the luncatic assylum records, maybe you should volunteer to sort out the papers yourself - provided, of course, the task does not drive you mad!

Julie Welsh 21/07/2009 21:09:03

hello anthony i amfining it hard to the right date of birth of my great great great great great grandfather joseph garrett i had the date 1764 and i found him with a diffrent date of birth i hope you can help me julie

Ages can be stated differently in different records. When stuck in a case like this, learn what other records you may be able to use to learn more about the people concerned. By studying them more closely, you can often work out whether a baptism you have found fits the right person. NB: you have probably found a baptism, not a birth, so don't forget that baptisms did not always take place as soon as children were born.

Linda Wells 19/08/2008 21:16:10

Hi Anthony, Can you please tell my why the census does not give the wifes maiden name. best wishes lynn

Census records were compiled to compile statistical information on who was alive at the time: there was no thought of rtheir providing long-lasting genealogical information. Frustratingly, there still isn't!

Linda Wells 11/11/2008 21:11:14

Hi Anthony. I've found out that my g grandfather joined the west riding regiment and was posted to Halifax NS where he met and married my g grand mother Alice Heyson on the 1 August 1889 before being posted to Jamica where my g uncle was born in 1891, g grandad brought the family back to England to live in 1891-92, what I would like to know would Alice have to had papers to enter the country,by the the way my g grandads name was William Wells if it helps. thanks lynn

This question shows the sort of scenario that I was hinting at in the last answer. The army created an extraordinarily international dimension to many ‘ordinary’ families’ histories in the 19th century. As to this question, no, as the wife of a British subject (soldier or not) Alice would have had no impediment to entering Britain (Jamaica was British then anyway) and no papers would have been expected or deposited.

Ian Welford 15/06/2010 21:45:46

Nancy I believe was born 1880 and had 2 children bertram (1910) and reginald (1909)

Ah, good. So, to find Mr Rowland's first name, you can seek the births of either Bertram or Reginald. Having done so, you can then seek Nancy and Mr Rowland's marriage. She may have married as Anne/Ann/Hannah, as these names were interchangeable with Nancy.

Ian Welford 15/06/2010 21:23:09

Also cant find any more info on William Stokes my Great Grand father around the 1800

Same comment as above, really - to diagnose the problem you need to know what the problem is. The ideal sort of questions are the sort posed earlier this evening by Julia Dudley and Alana Rogers - clear, concise questions that explain who the person is, in terms of names and dates, and what the problem is.

Ian Welford 15/06/2010 21:18:19

Im trying to trace my Welford family line but cant get any further than my great grand father. Any help

Yes, but for me to help you'll need to tell me a few details about the person on whom you're stuck., and where you've looked already. As it happens you're in luck as, unusually, there don't seem to be many other people asking questions this evening.....

Ian Welford 15/06/2010 21:56:46

Why cant I find anybodys birth records? I'm putting in dates that the censors suggest but cant find any of my family. Am I doing something wrong as I'm even putting a 5 year range on it as well

Take it slowly! Look for your family in each available census (please note the spelling - genealogists must try to be accurate in all matters - a rule I know I often fail to live up to, but a good rule none the less!). These should provide several sets of coordinates on when and where someone was born. Seek their marriages, to confirm their ages and fathers' names. Then, when searching, always think about what variant spellings may have been used, and look in army births as well as civilian ones. "Slowly, slowly, catchee monkey", as they used to say under the Raj.

Ian Welford 15/06/2010 21:32:15

William Stokes who was married to Pricilla Stokes (not sure of maiden name) had a son James stokes around 1890 who worked as docker. Have looked on censors

Good - thanks. Well, you should be able to find this family in the censuses, not least as Priscilla had a nice, fairly unusual name. The two next steps, would be to seek the marriage of James Stokes, as this will confirm his father's name and occupation, and then seek the birth of James himself, in the approximate year suggested by the censuses and confirmed by his marriage record, and in the place indicated by the censuses. This birth record will state Priscilla's maiden name, and then you can seek their marriage. Please don't be tempted to cut corners - seek James's marriage and obtain the certificate before anything else. Tracing a family line properly is a difficult business with a popular surname like Stokes, and you cannot afford to miss out the important pieces of evidence that you can pick up along the way.

Ian Welford 15/06/2010 21:36:34

Also George Byatt married to Mary Byatt had sons edmund, William and daughter Rose and Nancy. Nancy was married to a Mr Rowley but cant find his name. Also want to find George Byatts parents

Again, as with the question above, you want to be working back steadily from information that is known for certain. The birth records of one of George and Mary's children will give you her maiden name so you can seek their marriage. As to Nancy, I need dates! When did this Nancy live? It is important, as the techniques you'd use would vary accordingly.

Victoria Welch 22/01/2013 21:02:02

i am trying to find out information for a birth certificate for my grandad who was born in dundee but i cant seem to find him at all. what should i do?

Can you tell me a bit more - his name, when you think he was born and on what basis you think he was born in Dundee? Do you have his marriage record?