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William John Reynolds, b abt 1868 London

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vera2010

vera2010 Report 7 Mar 2013 15:56

I'll take another look at that Henry and Margaret. Had to leave it to go to the shops. See if they turn up in later years together.

I wonder if the OP is able to get back to us. I think she came to us via Marie Celeste.



Vera

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 7 Mar 2013 13:43

Presumably these are from the original poster:

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lnd.eolfhs/6701/mb.ashx?pnt=1

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_topics/thread/451758

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/history/thread/391289


vera2010

vera2010 Report 7 Mar 2013 12:57

Whilst having a trawl came across this. Henry is a Hatter. Can't find a marriage.
Wonder if he had William J with Margaret prior to m to Ann in 1867.

..1861 England Census
about Henry Reynolds Name: Henry Reynolds
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Reynolds
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 248
Folio: 21
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Reynolds 23
Margaret Reynolds 24
Henry Reynolds 2

Vera


K

K Report 7 Mar 2013 08:59

I can't search at the moment but is it possible that Eliza the "widow" was the sister of Henry ?

Edit - Just checked and Henry did have a siste Eliza but she was born in 1841

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 7 Mar 2013 08:45

Please would the original poster tell us the details on the birth certificate for
"William John who is listed top of the search results"; and is this he?:

Name: William John Reynolds
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1867
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 234


It is possible that he was told who his father was but that information may not have been correct.

vera2010

vera2010 Report 7 Mar 2013 07:55

Gives father as deceased cabinet maker.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Albert Thomas Reynolds Name: Albert Thomas Reynolds
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Margarett Barker
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Dec 1897
Parish: St Gabriel, Chrisp Street
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William John Reynolds
Spouse Father Name: James Barker
Register Type: Parish Register

Vera

vera2010

vera2010 Report 7 Mar 2013 07:44

This is Albert T with Eliza. No William John but living in the same area from here William J married Ellen.

1891 England Census
about Albert Reynolds Name: Albert Reynolds
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Eliza Reynolds
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End, London, England

Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 323
Folio: 65
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Reynolds 39
Albert Reynolds 15

Vera



vera2010

vera2010 Report 7 Mar 2013 00:03

The only snippet I can offer is that one of the witnesses on the marriage cert for William John and Ellen Trattle is a C or could be an E Reynolds. Could be Caroline.

It seems strange that all the othe children of Henry W and Ann are baptised.

I can't find any trace of William J prior to 1891. The post of K has Eliza a widow aged 30 so that would have made her 15 years when she had William J. Wonder when she became a widow and who the father of the other child is.

Vera

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 6 Mar 2013 22:39

I have found, in ancestry, a baptism at St Matthias, for a child of Henry William Reynolds, Hatter, and his wife Ann, of 20 Elizabeth Street, Bethnal Green:
Amelia, 28 January 1872,
plus Caroline, 6 February 1870, at 8 Pelham Street,
Ann Harriet, b 30 August, baptised 27 September 1868, 3 Pelham Street.



Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 6 Mar 2013 22:08

There is a public tree in ancestry that has Henry William Reynolds married to Ann Hitchcock:

In 1875 his address is 51 Elizabeth Street, Bethnal Green in the electoral registers.

Unfortunately there is no mention of any children.

Ann Hitchcock's birth is stated as 27 August 1846 in Mile End New Town, Stepney.

K

K Report 6 Mar 2013 20:37

I keep coming back to this William J Reynolds in 1881. I cannot see him or mother in 1871 or post 1891

Posting on the chance is has some relavance and the possiblity that Henry had a child pre marriage

1881

REYNOLDS, Eliza Head Widow F 30 1851 Match Box Maker (M D)
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
REYNOLDS, William J Son Single M 15 1866 Works At Splint Factory (Woodturner)
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
REYNOLDS, Albert T Son Single M 5 1876
Stepney, Middlesex

Piece: 482

Folio: 136

Page: 44

Registration District: Mile End Old Town

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town

Municipal Borough:

Address: 45, Cadiz St, Mile End Old Town

County: London, Middlesex

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Mar 2013 18:40

pm from Angela:

"Hi MarieCeleste,
This is the correct William John Reynolds I'm looking for with his first wife Ellen and daughter also named Ellen.
However, it is his birth birth details that I can't find.
His marriage cert shows his father as Henry William Reynolds, a hatter by trade.
This is my brickwall. The Henry William Reynolds, hatter did not have a son named William John!!
Angie"

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Feb 2013 12:34

109 Canal Road in 1901:

REYNOLDS, William J Head Married M 33 1868 Engine Driver & Stoker Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Florance Wife Married F 29 1872 Electrical Station St Georges E, London
REYNOLDS, Hellen Daughter F 10 1891 Stepney, London
REYNOLDS, Florence Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Mile End, London

Piece: 337 Folio: 105 Page: 9
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town

Address: 109, Canal Road, Mile End Old Town County: London

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:26

Have you ruled out this birth...?

Births Jun 1867
Reynolds William John ... Bethnal Green 1c 234

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:16

In 1901...if I have the correct linked baptisms, William John should be in 109 Canal Road

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:07

...and another..?

Name: William John Reynolds
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1893 .....born 27 September 1893
Father's Name: William John Reynolds .................labourer
Mother's name: Ellen Reynolds
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address unclear... ....102 B ??? son Road

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Feb 2013 12:06

1891 for 39 Halley street:

BOSS, Jno Thos Head Married M 33 1858 Stoker Ratcliffe, London
BOSS, Emma Elizh Wife Married F 31 1860 St George's, London
BOSS, Christiana Daughter Single F 12 1879 Scholar Stepney, London
BOSS, Jas William Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar Limehouse, London
BOSS, Emma Rebecca Adopted Child Single F 6 1885 Scholar Limehouse, London
BOSS, Rose Elizth Daughter Single F 4 1887 Scholar Limehouse, London
BOSS, William Geo Son Single M 2 1889 Limehouse, London
BOSS, Ethel Daughter F 0 1891 Limehouse, London
REYNOLDS, Jno Wm Head Lodger Married M 23 1868 Labourer General Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Ellen Wife Married F 20 1871 Stepney, London
REYNOLDS, Elizth Ellen Daughter Single F 0 1891 Limehouse, London

RG number: RG12 Piece: 295 Folio: 71 Page: 11
Sub District: Limehouse
Enumeration District: 9
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets

Address: 39, Halley Street, Limehouse, London, Tower Hamlets County: London

The Reynolds are a separate household but sharing the same address as the Boss family.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:01

Trying to track locations in the hope of viewing census................

Is this a child of the 1st marriage..?
Name: Ellen Margaret Eliza Reynolds
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1891 ....born 7 December
Father's Name: William John Reynolds ....labourer
Mother's name: Ellen Reynolds
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address shown as 39 Halley Street.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 10:39

Where is William John in 1891.... any clue to birthplace?

Gwyn

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Feb 2013 07:24

It happens to us all!! :-D :-D :-D