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Searching for parents of Thomas Morgan (my great-grandfather, born c1859). They came from Bala area (Llanwchllyn, I believe), and lived for a time between Bala and Ruthin. Thomas married a Julia Williams, and had Edward (my grandfather), Tommy, Johnny and Jenny/Jinny.
Many thanks to anyone who can help.
Carole R

Do you have his father's name from the marriage cert? This is all I can see so far, age a bit out:

1871 Wales Census

Name: Thomas Morgans
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David Morgans
Mother's Name: Anne Morgans
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanycil, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanycil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanycil
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bala
Sub-registration district: Bala

David Morgans 44
Anne Morgans 41
David Morgans 14
John Morgans 12
Thomas Morgans 10
Margarett Morgans 8
Mary Morgans 6
Hugh Morgans 3
Evan Morgans 1
Mary Jones 24

1901 Wales Census
about Thomas Morgan Name: Thomas Morgan
Age in 1901: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Julia Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Bala, Merionethshire, Wales

Civil parish: Rhosllanerchrugog
Ecclesiastical parish: Rhosllanerchrugog St John
Town: Rhos
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Morgan 45
Julia Morgan 47
John Morgan 21
Edward Morgan 18
Jane Morgan 14
John R Jones 21
William Parry 23
Wlater Prydderch 21


this lot?????????????

1881 Wales Census
about Thomas Morgan Name: Thomas Morgan
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David Morgan
Mother's Name: Ann Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanuwchlyn, Merionethshire, Wales

Civil parish: Bryneglwys
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Tynymynydd
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farmers Son

Registration district: Corwen
Sub-registration district: Llangollen
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Morgan 52
Ann Morgan 50
David Morgan 24
John Morgan 22
Thomas Morgan 20
Margaret Morgan 18
Mary Morgan 16
Hugh Morgan 13
Evan Morgan 11
Daniel Morgan 9
Robert Morgan 6
Henry Morgan 3

A copy of their marriage certificate should reveal some details about Thomas's father:

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
Morgan Thomas Ruthin 11b 582
Williams Julia Ruthin 11b 582

I think that Thomas was born before 1859 as you indicate:

1881:

Name: Thomas Morgan
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Julia Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanuchlyn, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanfwrog
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: 46 Borthyn
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Ruthin
Sub-registration district: Ruthin
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Morgan 28
Julia Morgan 29 born Cerrigydruidion, Denbighshire
Mary Alice Morgan 10
Thomas Morgan 3
John Morgan 1

Possible in 1861:
Name: Thomas Morgan
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwart Morgan
Mother's Name: Gwen Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Cynllwyd
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Bala
Sub-registration district: Corwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwart Morgan 45
Gwen Morgan 44
Elisabeth Morgan 10
Jane Morgan 8
Thomas Morgan 6
William Morgan 4
Cadwaladar Morgan 1

Thanks Tania.
This looks like my bunch. I can only go as far back as Thomas and Julia, but would like to trace Thomas's parents etc. I believe Thomas was disowned when he married Julia (as she, like her mother Elizabeth Williams (Cerrigyddrudion area), was apparently illegitimate - so no joy there.
If you can shed any light beyond Thomas's birth, many thanks. Otherwise, still grateful to you for trying.
best wishes
Carole

Carole, you need his marriage cert. Without that to give us his father's name no-one can be certain of above information.
Jan

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Thomas Morgan Name: Thomas Morgan
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bala
County: Merionethshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 354

1891 Wales Census
about Julia Margan Name: Julia Margan
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Margan
Gender: Female
Where born: Cerrig Y Druidion, Merionethshire, Wales
[Cerrigydrudion, Merionethshire, Wales]

Civil parish: Ruabon
Ecclesiastical parish: Rhosllannerchrugog
Town: Ponkey
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Margan 32
Julia Margan 34
Mary Alice Margan 19
Thomas Margan 13
John Margan 11
Edward Margan 8
Jenny Margan 5