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trying to find information on a irene morgan born 1922
irene married a ellis thomas 1941 smethwick they had a daughter called carol born 1942 ellis was killed in the 2 world war soon after irene left and was never seen again.
ellis thomas born 1919 llangennech.
on marriage cert irene father was tom morgan.
i think irene was born 1922 hanley stoke

Might this be Irene's birth entry?

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Morgan Irene Morgan Stoke T. 6b 347

The district Stoke T. is an alternative name for Stoke and Wolstanton and it is in the county of Staffordshire.

have pm marriage info

2 possible deaths for ellis


Military Section Army
Forename ELLIS
Surname THOMAS
Rank DVR.
Regiment R.A.S.C.
Military Number T/14552607
Year Of Death 1944
Age At Death
Military Decorations
Branch
Volume Volume 12; Page 327




Military Section Naval Ratings
Forename ELLIS
Surname THOMAS
Rank A.B.
Regiment LAPWING
Military Number
Year Of Death 1945
Age At Death
Military Decorations
Branch
Volume Volume 10; Page 3840

thanks i will have to send for irene birth cert .
it looks like her mother was a morgan but cant find a marriage of a tom morgan married to a morgan on the free bmd in that area

Which would almost certainly mean that the mother was unmarried and Irene invented a father when she got married

could this be a possible

1911 census

Household information
Address 3 Herbert St Fenton Stoke-Upon Trent
Parish Fenton
Town Fenton Stoke-Upon Trent
Type of Building Dwelling
Number of Rooms 4 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN16574 RG78PN1024 RD361 SD3 ED4 SN168
Administrative County Staffordshire
Registration District Stoke Upon Trent
Registration Sub District Fenton
Enumeration District 4

Householder 1
Name Tom Hinds Morgan
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Occupation Collier Hewer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Colliery
Place of Birth Hanley Staffordshire
Nationality English

Householder 2
Name Emily Morgan
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 3 Years
Total Children Born Alive 2
Children Still Living 1
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Employed N
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Hanley Staffordshire
Nationality English

Householder 3
Name John Thomas Morgan
Relationship to Head of Household Baby
Gender M
Age 4 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Fenton Staffordshire

Name Tom Hinda Morgan
Year of Marriage 1908
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Stoke on Trent
Registration County Staffordshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 6B
Volume Page 364

Commonwealth War Graves shows this information for the two Ellis possibles:

42 THOMAS , ELLIS ADRIEL Driver T/14552607 19/09/1944 25 Royal Army Service Corps United Kingdom Plot KK. Grave 123. EINDHOVEN (WOENSEL) GENERAL CEMETERY
68 THOMAS , ELLIS GWYN Able Seaman D/JX 559050 20/03/1945 Unknown Royal Navy United Kingdom Panel 94, Column 2. PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

Marriage record indicates the more likely one as Ellis Adriel Thomas.

Have you checked Passenger Lists for a possible emigration?

hi flick
i thought the same has you that she invented a father but i on the marriage cert it has got tom morgan as a wittness which could be her brother or father just waiting for her birth cert to arrive now