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hi,i am looking for info on my great gran elizabeth varty.
she was born in 1866 and lived in jarrow.
she was married to ralph bainbridge mcdonald and had three children william,dorothy and ralph(my grandfather).
i would be greatful for any info to help me furher my research.

thanks brian

Is this her with her grandfather, John Scott, on the 1881 census:-

Name: Elizabeth Varty
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Jarw, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 42 High St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: No Occupation

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

John Scott 72
Elizabeth Varty 15 - granddaughter
Jane Scott Whitfield 36 - niece

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5021; Folio: 69; Page: 57; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342209.

Kath. x

1891 census - Jarrow

Angus McDonald - Head - M - 50 - Auctioneer - Scotland
Dorothy McDonald - wife - 50 - Newcastle, Northumberland
Ralph B. McDonald - son - 24 - Ship joiner - Jarrow, Durham


34, High Street

Matthew Varty - Head - 58 - Laborourer at shipyard - South Shields, Durham
Jane Varty - wife - 53 - Blaydon
Elizabeth Varty- dau - S - 25 - ? Assistant - Jarrow
Robert Varty - son - S - 22 - Laborourer at shipyard - Jarrow
Mary - dau - 19 Jarrow
Helen L - dau - 12 - scholar - Jarrow

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Verty
Name: Elizabeth Verty
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Martha
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Jarrow, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow
Ecclesiastical parish: Jarrow St Paul
Town: Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 265
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Verty 5
Jane Verty 33
Margt J Verty 5
Martha Verty 38 (matthew)
Robert Verty 2

This marriage certificate would confirm who the fathers of Elizabeth and Ralph are.

Marriages Mar 1894
McDonald Ralph Bainbridge S. Shields 10a 910
Varty Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 910


Sue

1841 England Census
about Matthew Varty
Name: Matthew Varty
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Jarrow
Hundred: Chester (East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Heworth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Varty 25
Isabella Varty 1
John Varty 10
Mary Varty 12
Matthew Varty 8
Robert Varty 35

yes christine this is the right family.it confirms some of what i already knew and will help me with previous generations.

many thanks

There are two births in the area. Likely to be the second one. I see no obvious death for the first in the same district. I had wondered if the first one was an older deceased sibling for the 1866 Elizabeth but she may be a cousin.

Births Mar 1858
Varty Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 456


Births Mar 1866
VARTY Elizabeth S Shields 10a 620

Sue
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1851 England Census
about Mathew Varty
Name: Mathew Varty
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth B
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hedworth, Monkton, and Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth B Varty 32
Hannah Varty 2
Isabella L Varty 11
Jane E Varty 7
John Varty 21
Mathew Varty 18
Robert Varty 48
Robert L Varty 4
William D Varty 9

marriage
Matthew Varty 1863 Oct-Nov-Dec South Shields

Jane Scott

many thanks jim this info will be very useful i am sure it is the right family

i think robert and elizabeth mustn't know how old theyre

i think robert and elizabeth mustn't know how old they really are coz in 1841 there is a 10 year age difference but 10 years later there is a 16 year age difference.

The 41 census ages were not accurate.

They were rounded down apart from those of children.

Having said that.....many people didn't worry too much about how old they were.

Sometimes they told fibs too......my 2x great got progressively younger compared with her husband so she ended up in 1881 as the same age as he was.

Sue

thanks sue i kinda thought that

I have Varty in my tree and my grandma was born in South Shields! Any connections to Cumberland?

Linda Did you notice the date of Brians last post? As it was so long ago he might not see your reply why don't you try sending him a PM and if he is still a member and still using the same email address he will be notified by GR.

Good Luck