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Ivy Lilian Long
Birth Date: 4 Nov 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 1994
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Register number: A6A
Entry Number: 16

mothers maiden name was Bryan. No further info on Cathy yet.

This seems to be about a famous Wine place at near London Bridge

http://www.vinopolis.co.uk/tastehistory.php

Just out of interest, when was Cathy born and what was hers and Ivy's mothers maiden name?

Is this her birth reg? Same place and mmn as Ivy

Births Sep 1928
Bryan Kathleen E Johnson St.Olave 1d 153

Cathy Samuels is confirmed as Ivy's sister

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9th May 2008 21:10

Found a son

Frederick G Long mmn Bryan
Mar 1939
Bermondsey
Vol: 1d
Page: 76


Found a daughter

Patricia I Long mmn Bryan
Jun 1941
Barnstaple
vol: 5b
Page: 1036

Update: My godmother has confirmed David had an older sister called Pat (some pages back someone listed this as a name)

Just wanted to add that my godmother told me that David worked in a wine Factory near London Bridge at the time of my birth.. shame I cant seem to locate through google. Maybe some Londoners on here might know what it might have been called? I could call and ask about old employees.

Cathy Samuels is David and Peter's aunt but will have to confirm which parent she was related to.

Samuels is her married name.

I dont know Peter's DOB and neither does my godmother but she says he is older than David (he is 1960)

Thanks all

Have you got an approx year and place of birth for Peter?

Is Samuels her maiden name?

Is she a sister to Ivy or Fred?

Hi Gemma

The 50 year rule means that to apply for a birth certificate that is less than 50 years ago you have to know:

Surname at birth *
Forename(s) *
Date of birth (dd/mm/yyyy)*
Place of birth *
Father's surname *
Father's forename(s) *
Mother's maiden surname *
Mother's forename(s) *

Without *ALL* of these details they will not issue the birth certificate :-( And they must be accurate.

So as the birth cert you applied for is 1962 (46 years ago) they wont send it without all of the above! It's silly really as in 4 years you'll be able to get it like any other cert!!! I believe it is to prevent identity fraud.

Anyway it sounds like you are getting really close now :-) I've got everything crossed for you, keep us posted :-)

Regards
LfW

I found my godmother through here, Sheila Molyneux & Margaret Finch directed me to her on friends reunited and i got a reply saying she knew me and i she was her! .. i spoke to her after she gave me her msn (she is in cyprus at the mo on holiday) x

im not sure about the 50yr rule, i just got a refund and no responses to my emails about my order

How did you find your godmother!? I know you had a card with her name on ...but how did you get to the point of talking to her on MSN??

i think you best get her to speak to your great Auntie ......

And prehaps some one could look up the long lost brother !!!........

yeh helena;s husband len died two yrs ago. I have been speaking to Helena Corbally on msn.. she knows my mum and is my godmother !! she knows a friend who is friends with my great aunt cathy (davids aunt)

hi all. I dont know why i got a refund, i saw it there and was awaiting a reply. im ordering something new now as i found my godmother and she said David had a brother called Peter, mums name was Ivy Long and Fred Long is his dad. He had an aunt called cathy samuels.

Putting Helena Tsiricos in FR gives the same result so it is the same person.

Rose

Wonder if the one on FR is the correct one. It says her maiden name is Clark.

Could this be your Helena?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1984-2005
about Helena M Tsiricos
Name: Helena M Tsiricos
Spouse Surname: Lorenzo Corbally
Date of Registration: Jul 1985
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 11
Page Number: 1675
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Rose

Hi Gemma

Did you get stuck with the cert because of the 50 year rule? Hopefully you're godmother will have some info for you, fingers crossed and thanks for keeping us updated.

Regards
LfW

Gemma did you order through the proper GRO website, costs seven pounds?

Gemma

b.t. directory list three d. longs plus addresses in southwark.

jenny

sorry I,m lost again ....we gave you all the details for the birth certificate ...like Jenny has here ...but it didnt come ........

Never known that before has anyone else ????

As long as you give these details they will send it to you ...

How did they give you your money back ...how did you find that out and how much did you get ?