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I have a message that has been deleted. I don't know why. Was it my reply as to how I knew Fred was the right one? Madeleine

I think that they are a lot of use. I have been trying to get further with them. Especially thier father. But no luck yet. Thank you. Madeleine

I didn't realise that not everyone could see my replies. !!! I wonder why my research is a bit difficult?!! Madeleine

Probably not much use but there are two George Arnold GOLDIN's registered in Cheltenham in 1848 and 1853

Probably my fault. I messaged Madeleine to let her know how to find the replies.

Rose

Madeleine
It is easier to help if researchers can all see the information you give in answer to questions. Sometimes someone can think of a new line of approach, when they see added information.

Just click Add reply ..as you did to post your other messages.

Gwyn

Have I been answering all my replies to the wrong system? Hope not. I would not want to offend anyone by them thinking that I hadn't replied when I had. Madeleine

Frederick's mother Mary Ann was from Lambeth. Perhaps that's why he ended up there. William died in 1869.

Rose

Madeleine says his father was George Arnold Golding according to Frederick's marriage cert.

Rose

So uplifted by the help that so many people have taken the trouble to give me. I am stll working on my brick wall. Never say Die. Thanks to all. Madeleine

Following on from Rose's work this William is a cabinet maker Mary Ann is a dress maker on 1861 & this one.

1851 England Census
about William Golding
Name: William Golding
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Golding 22
William Golding 28

Have you ruled this birth out?

Births Dec 1851
GOLDING Frederick Cheltenham 11 206

Rose

1861 England Census
about Frederick Golding
Name: Frederick Golding
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltm, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Adelaide Golding 7
Christu Golding 3
Frederick Golding 10
Mary Ann Golding 29
Maryanne Golding 5
William Golding 30 Cabinet maker


What was his father's name?

Rose

I assume this is your man?

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Fredk. GOLDING Head M Male 31 Kensington, Middlesex, England Printer Overseer (Compactor)
Elizth. GOLDING Wife M Female 26 Strand, Middlesex, England
Will G. GOLDING Son Male 6 Walworth, Surrey, England
Fred G. GOLDING Son Male 3 Walworth, Surrey, England
Alf.J. GOLDING Son Male 1 Walworth, Surrey, England
Dwelling 11 Mann St
Census Place Newington, Surrey, England
Public Records Office Reference RG1

1891 England Census
about Frederick Colding
Name: Frederick Colding
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth J
Gender: Male
Where born: Chartham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth J Colding 36
Frederick Colding 39 Printer
William Colding 16
Alfred Golding 11
Frederick Golding 3
George Golding 15
Lillian Golding 8


1901 England Census
Name: Frederick Golding
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Agnes
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter, Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Golding 43
Frederick Golding 48
Frederick Golding 13
George Golding 15
Lilian Golding 18
Maud Golding 9
Nellie Golding 4
Norah Golding 6


Rose

There were lots of Goldings in Belchamp st Paul Essex quite a few people from there ended up in London
Jackie

My alarm bells would be ringing if I had relatives that claim to have been born in Cheltenham or Kensington

Could you give a brief history of Frederick?

ie. when and where do you see him and KNOW he is the right person.

Gwyn

For the last seven years I have been unable to get past 1851 in my research. I can trace everyone from me up until 1851. I have done various spellngs of Golding. Paid professionals to help, and still no joy. He has two places of birth on two different census'. One says Cheltenham and another says Kensington. There are some middle names for him as well, they are \william Arnold Pearcy. I have tried Arnold and Pearcy in case they were his mothers maiden name and so on. His marriage certificate states that his father was a jeweller. I think that may be a bit of authors licence. The area where we all seem to have ended up is South London. But where he started from heaven only knows. Such a convoluted story I know, but every now and then I have a renewed feeling of anticipation and just have to give it another go. Thanks for looking. Madeleine