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Help Needed Re Canada....BIG UPDATE !!

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Mistycat

Mistycat Report 12 Aug 2008 11:48

I have just recived a birth cert for my grandmother's brother (she was born in England,1901 and fostered from birth)

The birh was registared in 1928, East Ward, Westmorland but the cert read's as follows....

Thomas Fallowfield..born 17.9.1905, Gallaber? Marton, father Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield (gas fitter),mother Margaret Wilhelminia..nee Gilpin (my ggrandmother)

Column 7...then read's...Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield, father, of 1731,38th Avenue ea,Vancouver, British Columbia,Canada, as per declaration dated March 1928.

Column 8..say's..Fourth April 1928 on the authority of Registrar General.

Does this mean he was born in Canada, came back to England in 1928, with a declaration from his father, and then got a Brithish birth cert?

Would it be possable for someone to have a look for this family in Canada for me..please

Any help would be fantastic and most gratefully received...Thankyou
Misty


Mistycat

Mistycat Report 12 Aug 2008 12:17

Thankyou Catherine...first thing to do is order that cert, I think.

Makes me even more confused over this birth cert (easily done) though, as Thomas was born 1905, could he have been born in England and moved to Canada later and original birth cert lost?
Misty

Jayne

Jayne Report 12 Aug 2008 12:19

Hi - no connection with your family but wondered if you had seen this death record from British Columbia ?

As he is recorded as 91 at death, then he was born around 1860 ?

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Thomas Atkins Fallowfield

Event Date: 1951 7 14 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 91
Gender: male
Event Place: Cloverdale

Reg. Number: 1951-09-007113
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13209
GSU Microfilm Number: 2032701

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Aug 2008 12:20

possible birth index
Name: Thomas Fallowfield
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East Ward
County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: ( not given on index ,will have a look at the image it has been handwritten at the bottom of the page and indicates that you refer to J/28 which must be what you have)

Dea

Dea Report 12 Aug 2008 12:26

Hi,

I found this death in Cloverdale, which is part of Vancouver - I am sure it must connect

Name:
Thomas Atkins Fallowfield
Place....Cloverdale
Reg. Number:
1951-09-007113 Copy Available

Date:
1951 7 14 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 91
Event:
Death Microfilm #:
B13209 (GSU # 2032701)

What do you think?

I will see if I can find anything more later.

Dea x

P.S. - Do you have any info at all re anyone in Canada?

Dea x


jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Aug 2008 12:27

A couple of birth indexes
Name: Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East Ward
County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: 510


Name: Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East Ward
County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: 651

Dea

Dea Report 12 Aug 2008 12:29

This birth would tie in with the death in Canada:

Births Dec 1859
FALLOWFIELD Thomas Atkinson E Ward 10b 510


Dea x

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Aug 2008 12:30

1891census?Name: Thomas A Fallowfield
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bongate, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Long Marton
Ecclesiastical parish: Long Marton
Town: Brampton
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Name: George Bird
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Marton, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Long Marton
Ecclesiastical parish: Long Marton
Town: Brampton
County/Island: Westmorland



Name: Jane Bird
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Long Marton, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Long Marton
Ecclesiastical parish: Long Marton
Town: Brampton
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
George Bird 53
Jane Bird 62
Thomas A Fallowfield 8
Deborah J Irving 11 --granddaughter
Margaret Irving 15 ---granddaughter
John Parker 21 -servant





Mistycat

Mistycat Report 12 Aug 2008 12:39

Hi Janice...I think thats my Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield in 1882...date fit's...will follow that up..thankyou.

Hi Dea...I'm also sure there must be a connection there.thankyou.
I have no info on anyone in Canada..I had no idea there was any connection with Canada untill I recived the cert.
Mistyx

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Aug 2008 12:39

If they were not married was he originally a Gilpin?
Name: Thomas Gilpin
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East Ward
County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: 720

Dea

Dea Report 12 Aug 2008 12:41

I wonder if this could be Margaret's death?

Name:
Margaret W Fallowfield

Place
Vancouver Reg. Number:
1972-09-003947 Copy Available
Date:
1972 2 9 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age:
87 Event:
Death Microfilm #:
B13316 (GSU # 2034299)

Dea x

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Aug 2008 12:45

There is this marriage for possible couple ?perhaps stepson not grandson
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)

Bird George E.Ward 10b 821 -------
Fallowfield Jane East Ward 10b 821 -------
PEARSON Dinah E. Ward 10b 821
Widdus James East Ward 10b 821

Margee

Margee Report 12 Aug 2008 12:47

The 1911 Canadian census has a Fallowfield family in Vancouver, British Columbia. They were all born England and emigrated 1907, except 2 youngest born British Columbia.

Fallowfield Thomas A. M Head M Oct 1882 28
Fallowfield Margaret W. F Wife M Jan 1885 26
Fallowfield Thomas M Son S Sep 1905 5
Fallowfield Edna M. F Daughter S Oct 1906 4
Fallowfield Robert S. M Son S Dec 1908 2
Fallowfield Lawrence H. M Son S Sep 1910 9/12

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 12 Aug 2008 12:51

Lol...Gosh Janice and dea, your both so quick, all this info is wonderful... thankyou so much.

Dea...the death does tie in with Margaret, she was born 1885. x

Janice..maybe I'm following the wrong Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield and he was born earlier than I thought.x

Thanks again
Misty x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 12 Aug 2008 12:54

Hi Margaret M....Thats fantastic, Thankyou so much.

Mistyx

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Aug 2008 12:57

So could he have been the Gilpin 1905 took Fallowfield name and changed his name offically in 1928. Wonder what fathers name is on the 1905 cert.

Margee

Margee Report 12 Aug 2008 12:59

Possible marriage of sister Edna May?


11 Groom Name:
John Samuel Finlayson Place
Vancouver Reg. Number:
1930-09-371774 Copy Available
Bride Name
Edna May Fallowfield Date:
1930 10 22 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event:
Marriage Microfilm #:
B13759 (GSU # 2074555)



Mistycat

Mistycat Report 12 Aug 2008 13:02

Janice I shall order the 1905 cert as I would love to know that too...and all the others no doubt.. LOL

Dea

Dea Report 12 Aug 2008 13:03

Edna married John Samuel:

Groom Name:
John Samuel Finlayson
Place
Vancouver Reg. Number:
1930-09-371774 Copy Available
Bride Name
Edna May Fallowfield Date:
1930 10 22 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event:
Marriage Microfilm #:
B13759 (GSU # 2074555)


Dea x

Margee

Margee Report 12 Aug 2008 13:08

This is curious.
There's attestation papers for soldiers of WW1 in Canada and there's a Charles Thomas Fallowfield, born 3 Nov. 1893, Kensington Prairie, BC, living in Cloverdale, British Columbia. Next-of-kin is his father Thomas Atkinson Fallowfield, Kensington Prairie, BC.

This family is on the 1901 Canadian census. Father is Thomas A. Fallowfield born 31 Oct. 1860, England, wife Margaret born 1860 in Ontario.