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Help Needed Re Canada....BIG UPDATE !!

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Margee

Margee Report 14 Aug 2008 20:06

Also on BVRI:

JOEL, Christopher Fallowfield Age: 26 Marriage
Wife: Ruth IRVING Age: 37
Marriage Date: 21 May 1868 Recorded in: Long Marton, Westmorland, England
Husband's Father: William Fallowfield JOEL
Wife's Father: John IRING
Source: FHL Film 1471873 Dates: 1810 - 1900

JOEL, Robert Fallowfield Age: 27 Marriage
Wife: Hannah THOMPSON Age: 23
Marriage Date: 5 Mar 1870 Recorded in: Long Marton, Westmorland, England
Husband's Father: William Fallowfield JOEL
Wife's Father: John THOMPSON
Source: FHL Film 1471873 Dates: 1810 - 1900

JAMESON, William Age: 21 Marriage
Wife: Deborah Fallowfield JOEL Age: 22
Marriage Date: 25 May 1871 Recorded in: Long Marton, Westmorland, England
Husband's Father: Joseph JAMESON
Wife's Father: William Fallowfield JOEL
Source: FHL Film 1471873 Dates: 1810 - 1900

FALLOWFIELD JOEL, Thomas Age: 44 Marriage
Wife: Mary Jane HODGSON Age: 40
Marriage Date: 27 Feb 1897 Recorded in: Long Marton, Westmorland, England
Husband's Father: William FALLOWFIELD
Wife's Father: John HODGSON
Source: FHL Film 1471873 Dates: 1810 - 1900

Margee

Margee Report 14 Aug 2008 21:07

So, PPL, how did you know your message was number 100? You didn't count them, surely? Am I missing something?
(PPL= Petite Purple Legs)

Dea

Dea Report 14 Aug 2008 21:13

CHEEEKY!!! Margaret!!

New name now PPL????????????

It says how many messages are posted - NO I did not count thm (that would be SO sad !!)

Anyway - they are NOT purple now (well only a little bit here and there!!)

Dea Xxx

Margee

Margee Report 14 Aug 2008 22:19

Oh of course, number of replies! Duh! That's called another senior moment! Well, I am getting my old-age pension now.
Gail/Andrew, how kind of you to say so but I don't think this book is ever going to end.
Marg

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 14 Aug 2008 23:21

My other half cooked a lovely supper tonight, I ate it and promptly fell asleep, 4.40 am is no good for a gramdma !!!

Just popped in to say a Big Thankyou for today..altough my head is spinning with it all..it's great to see it unfold.

Night night


Misty xx (and my chap who is happy he will not be woken at 5 am tomorrow)

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 09:54

Thank you for your kind comments Andrew !

I am sure there is much more to come..........

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 13:52

Sorry, - It was me who deleted - my message was too BIG...!

I will split it and re-post...

JANE FALLOWFIELD'S family: (born Greyrigg c 1828)

on 1841:
William F Joel
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Orton
Hundred: East
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: East Ward
Sub registration district: Orton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Christable Joel 4 Mo
Elizabeth Joel 6
Emma Joel 5
Jane Joel 30
Jane Joel 12
John Joel 3
Margaret Joel 2
Mary Joel 8
William Joel 11
William F Joel 40 Farmer !

Living at Dyke, Orton

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1158; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Orton; County: Westmorland; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 5; Page: 4; Line: 15; GSU roll: 464189.


1851:

Now they are FALLOWFIELD !
William Fallowfield
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Orton, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Tebay
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: East Ward
Sub registration district: Appleby
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Christopher Fallowfield 10
Deborah Fallowfield 2
Elizabeth Fallowfield 16
Hannah Fallowfield 6
James Fallowfield 4
Jane Fallowfield 44
John Fallowfield 13
Margaret Fallowfield 11
Robert Fallowfield 8
William Fallowfield 50 Farmer
William Fallowfield 21

Living at High Dyke

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2439; Folio: 503; Page: 16; GSU roll: 87120.

Source Information:

1861:

William Fallowfield
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Grayrig, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Tebay
Ecclesiastical parish: Carlisle
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: East Ward
Sub registration district: Orton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Atkinson 4 - Grand-daughter !!
Christopher Fallowfield 20
Hannah Fallowfield 16
James Fallowfield 14
Jane Fallowfield 54
John Fallowfield 23
Robert Fallowfield 18
Thomas Fallowfield 9
William Fallowfield 60 Farmer

Living at Dyke


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3960; Folio: 57; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543213.

Source Information:

.......................................

1871:
Jane Fallowfield
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Whrnfell, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Long Marton
Ecclesiastical parish: Long Marton
Town: Brampton
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: East Ward
Sub registration district: Appleby
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Deborah Fallowfield 22
James Fallowfield 24
Jane Fallowfield 65 widow - Farmer
John Fallowfield 33



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5269; Folio: 141; Page: 35; GSU roll: 847453.

to be continued...............

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 13:53

part two !tee hee!)..........



Son William: On 1861:
William Fallowfield Joel (+ Ann + family) abt 1830 Grayrig, Westmorland, England Head Tebay, Westmorland

William Fallowfield Joel
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Grayrig, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Tebay
Ecclesiastical parish: Carlisle
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: East Ward
Sub registration district: Orton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Fallowfield Joel 28
Jane Fallowfield Joel 4
Thomas Fallowfield Joel 3
William Fallowfield Joel 31


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3960; Folio: 56; Page: 14; GSU roll: 543213.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. 1861 England Census [database on

1881:
Son William has gone back to Joel again:
William F. Joel
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann F.
Gender: Male
Where born: Kendal, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Hay and Hutton in Hay
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address: The Ashes
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farmer Of 60 Acres

Registration district: Kendal
Sub registration district: Grayrigg
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann F. Joel 48
Isabella F. Joel 10
Mark F. Joel 13
Mary Ann F. Joel 16
Robert F. Joel 6
William F. Joel 51
William F. Joel 18



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5209; Folio: 78; Page: 1; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342256.

Source Information

Well, at least we now know they are ALL 'yours' !!

Wish those certs would hurry up and arrive !

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 14:01

Looks like there is also ANOTHER book ?

http://www.saskgenealogy.com/Library_Catalogue/Great%20Britain.htm

The Cumbria Family History Society, No. 85, November 1997
R. H. Postlethwaite Editor
Great Britain, England, Cumberland, newsletter, Journal, periodical: William Hogarth - Auld Thomas Hoggart - & Robert Hoggart by Reg Postlethwaite; A Question of Identity by Eustace S. Barnes; He Wasn't Elwood William White after al - just plain William by Loreley A. Morling; British Isles Genealogical Register (1997) by Barbara Smith; "Irregular Marriages in Annan, Dumfrisshire, 1799-1854" by Arthur A. Brack; The Robinson Story by Joan E. Hardy & Jennifer Forsyth; The 'Cumbrian' Relations of Captain James King by Tim Cockerill; ****Dixon - Fallowfield Joel by Jean Wilson;**** Captain Cook's Opium Pipe by Robert E. Salkeld; The Viaduct over the Solway Firth & The Solway Junction Railway by Alan Cleps; Foggy Days across the Pennines by Patsey & Ian Patterson; Bound For Demerara by Freda Jackson & Margaret Trohear; Victorian Poacher by James Hawker; Reward for detention of a Runaway, A Public Health Service 120 years Ago by Jean K. Brown; When you plump for a Will you my pull out a Plum by Mrs. F. M. Bolton; Perils of a Mariner in the 1890s by James Lister; Haytons of Tebay and Orton by Steve Cowperthwaite; The Beatles? - No - a much more original Rock Band by Jean Griffiths
Journal
Borrow
GB ENG CUL JOUR C1.85

The site is named above - looks like it is a Library in Canada?

Doesn't give any further details but perhaps someone in Canada might be able to help?

Dea x

It links from a Genealogical Society in Saskatchewan !!

http://www.saskgenealogy.com/WebSite2.htm

Looks good for when you get further with them!

Dea x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 15 Aug 2008 15:23

Hi Dea,

Thankyou for all this, not been able to do anything myself so far today, have been sat in A&E with a friend most it...all is well now, so that's good.

Wow they liked name changes, didnt they.....the thing that tickled me is on 1841 it states a female child..Christabele...then on the 1851 poor little mite is Christopher..male child !!!!.....most probably a mistake by the person doing the census...I hope!

Would love to get both the book's....sure they will make fascinating reading...who would have thought anything to do with my family, in print, all over the world....wow!

Misty xx

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 15:31

Me too - I would love to read them.

Anyway, we need to put this aside for now and wait for those certs - I have LOADS more info just waiting to connect up ! (Not posting it yet as it will only confuse).

If we ever get to the end of this (and we WILL), and you get those books - PLEASE send me a copy!

Dea x

P.S.

DO hope your friend is O.K. ??

Dea x

Margee

Margee Report 15 Aug 2008 15:51

Morning ladies!
Like you I would like to see the books. I checked the catalogue for my local library which is online but neither book is there. And I'm a few thousand miles away from Saskatchewan.
There are a lot of hits if you google "fallowfield joel".
This Canadian didn't understand A&E but I presume that's what we call Emerg. (the emergency department of the hospital?)
Hope everything's OK?
Incidentally my son often buys used, out of print books from a website calle Abe Books. I checked and they have quite a few copies of "Along the Way" Margaret Hastings. I wonder if it contains any more info than what we've seen?
Marg
p.s. I really have to get some work done today so am going to try to tear myself away from the computer!

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 15:54

OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhh Margaret! - You won't be able to do it !!!!

I have things to do too, but I can't resist!!

Dea Xxx

P.S. - Tonight's menu - sliced chicken breast (cut across the grain) - beat into escalopes - marinated in light soy, lemon, olive oil, + garlic, a hint each of ginger, coriander, and chilli, +salt + black pepper.

Dried and coated in flour, then egg, then freshly dried and toasted breadcrumbs.

Deep fried and served with sautéd potatoes and a salad garnish, twist of lemon !!!

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 17:15

Margaret - Is your son Reggie by any chance?? (Or is that a myth?)

Dea x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 15 Aug 2008 17:26

Hi Both,

My friend is fine..Thank's for asking...she had chest pain..but blood's show not a heart attack..hubby with her now( he was away working) will be kept in over night, just to keep an eye.

Sorry Margaret..Yes it is Emerg dpt

Dea...on my way to your's for supper !!!..sound's yummy

Misty xx

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 17:38

You would be VERY welcome - ready in about 25 minutes !!

Dea x

Margee

Margee Report 15 Aug 2008 18:18

You're right, Dea, the computer beckoned me back.
I was wondering if I can come too for that delicious meal but I've just finished lunch.
Reggie? Who's he then? Not one of mine.

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 18:36

Just eaten it - It was DELICIOUS !!!!

Must have got confused then with Reggie - he must belong to another Margaret !! - not to worry.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 15 Aug 2008 18:55

OOOOOOOhh gobble gobble - all gone Margaret - Sorry !!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can cook another one !!

Dea x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 18 Aug 2008 17:39


Hi Gramdma's


Moira found this......

Mistycat I think this is them.

passenger transcript details
Name: Th A FALLOWFIELD
Date of departure: 1 August 1907
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada

Date of Birth: 1883 (calculated from age)
Age: 24
Marital status: Married
Sex: Not specified
Occupation: Lab
Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 23





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Edin M FALLOWFIELD Page 6 of 23 View transcript
M W FALLOWFIELD Page 6 of 23 View transcript
Th T FALLOWFIELD Page 6 of 23 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
VICTORIAN

A Macnicol
Allan Line
Montreal, Canada
30019
6743
1261