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SJR

SJR Report 7 Sep 2008 19:52

Cazzy,

Is this the family?

1851
Peter Thomson
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Tranent, Haddington
Parish Number: 715
Civil Parish: Ormiston
County: East Lothian
Address: Oatlands
Occupation: Ag Labourer
ED: 2
Page: 12 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 31
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_193
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Thomson 28
Peter Thomson 28
Peter Thomson 2
William Thomson 5

Sheila

Linda

Linda Report 7 Sep 2008 22:13

Hello Sheila.

I have found a marriage with took place in Malton 1884 for a Betsy Foster & either William Garbutt / Richard Rawlings.

Could you kindly check on 1891 census to see if it is the same Betsy foster, Sister of my 2xgtgrandmother please..

Betsy Foster c1862 . Harwood dale. yorkshire.

Most Appreciated.
Linda x

SJR

SJR Report 8 Sep 2008 08:38

Linda,

Couls this be her?

1891

Betsey Garbutt
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Hovingham, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hovingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Hovingham
Town: Hovingham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malton
Sub registration district: Hovingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Barker 22
Chas Douglas Bulman 3
Eliz M Douglas Bulman 32
George Bush 22
Richard Dawson 49
**Betsey Garbutt 25
**Muriel A Garbutt 6
**William Garbutt 31
Ernest S Kelton 13
Eliza M Lumsden 30
Emma Moody 20
Eleanor Morring 16
Thomas Place 16
John W Wardell 21
Annie Watson 10

William is an Hotel Keeper

Sheila



ray

ray Report 8 Sep 2008 10:54

Sheila, thanks for your effort what would we do without you regards Ray

James Arthur

James Arthur Report 8 Sep 2008 12:02

Hi sjr
could you help me please i am looking for the
parents of edith marriott born 1888 aughton lancashire any help please
regards

Kim

Kim Report 8 Sep 2008 12:07

Please can you help me with my search
My Grandfather was George Henry Clark born Louth 16/08/1916 his father was Charles Clark and his mother was Alice Taylor I have the birth certificate but I am having trouble going back from here.

In the 1901 census I have
Wife Alice Clark 29 born Hatcliffe, Lincs
Daughter Alice L Clark 2 born Lincs, Grimsby
Head Charles S Clark 31 Herts, Ware
Son Chas S Clark 5 Lincs, Grimsby
I have different threads going back from Alice and Charles so I am very confused,

I found a birth for Charles S Ware, Herts so sent off for birth certificate and it shows Father Jabez and Mother Elizabeth which I can find on 1881 census but on birth cert is says place of birth Thunderidge.

I think possibly Thunderidge and Ware are close together so it could still be correct

Im just so confused

Thanks for looking at this for me

Regards
Kim Ross

SJR

SJR Report 8 Sep 2008 13:04

Westie,
I have found two possible entries.

1891
Name: Edith M Marriott
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Bow and Bromley of The Tower Hamlets
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte J Coleman 24
Maude M Coleman 22
Caroline Hickinbotham 16
Edith M Marriott 3
George T Marriott 5
Susan Purkis 47

It is not clear who the mother really is. Susan Pukis is a servant and she is at a different address.
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Edith Marriott
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Lavinia
Gender: Female
Where born: Stony Houghton, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Kearsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Kearsley
Town: Kearsley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub registration district: Pleasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Marriott 3
Elizabeth Marriott 19
Gertrude Marriott 16
John Marriott 78
Lavinia Marriott 47
Robert Marriott 51

Here she is in 1901
Edith D Marriott
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Aughton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
John Allen 34
Margaret D Allen 31
Mary E Allen 4 months
May Allen 2
Edith D Marriott 13
William W Marriott 29


William Marriott is the uncle.

Sheila



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Linda

Linda Report 8 Sep 2008 13:07

Hello Sheila.

I shall hold onto that 1891 census information of Betsy Garbut & husband William.
Can you tell me where William was born & what their address was in 1891 please.

Can they be found on 1901 too.

Many Thanks.
Linda x

SJR

SJR Report 8 Sep 2008 13:23

Kim,
This is the entry for Charles S. Clark

1871
Charles S Clark
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jabez
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Thundridge, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Thundridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Thundridge
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Ware
Sub registration district: Ware
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Charles S Clark 1
Elizabeth Clark 27
Jabez Clark 34
Mary Clark 2

I also found this entry for Ware

Charles S Clark
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jabez
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Thundridge, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Thundridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Thundridge
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Ware
Sub registration district: Ware
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Charles S Clark 1
Elizabeth Clark 27
Jabez Clark 34
Mary Clark 2


I think you need the marriage certificate for Charles and Alice to see the name of Charles' father.

Sheila


SJR

SJR Report 8 Sep 2008 13:39

Linda,

There is no specific address, just Hovingham which is also William's place of birth.

1901
William Garbutt
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsy
Gender: Male
Where born: Hovingham, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Cawton
Ecclesiastical parish: Gilling
Town: Cawton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Helmsley
Sub registration district: Oswaldkirk
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Garbutt 35
William Garbutt 41
Henry Smithy 23
Richard Smithy 21

1901
William Garbutt
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsy
Gender: Male
Where born: Hovingham, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Cawton
Ecclesiastical parish: Gilling
Town: Cawton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Helmsley
Sub registration district: Oswaldkirk
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Garbutt 35
William Garbutt 41
Henry Smithy 23
Richard Smithy 21

Address - Cawton Hall, Cawton

Occupation - Sergeant with Imp.Yeomanry

Betsy's place of birth is still Hovingham

Sheila


Carol

Carol Report 8 Sep 2008 13:43

Could I take up this offer and ask you to look up Mary Haddock b 1854 Grappenhall and her husband George. They married Dec 1881 so would you check the 1891 and 1901 census please. Sorry, but have no more details on George. Could be Warrington area. Thanks
Carol

Linda

Linda Report 8 Sep 2008 13:46

Sheila.

I am very grateful for this information. I shall hold onto this for future reference.

Many Many Thanks for all your help.

Most Appreciated.
Linda x

Ann

Ann Report 8 Sep 2008 14:28

Hi Sheila,
Thank you for trying, anyway,
Regards from Ann.

SJR

SJR Report 8 Sep 2008 16:23

Carol,

I cannot find any entries for Mary and George Haddock 1891/1901

Could this be Mary's death?

Mary Haddock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 28
District: Warrington
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 102

Sheila

Carol

Carol Report 8 Sep 2008 19:14

Thanks for trying. Seems this partucular branch just gets more elusive...!

dogsB

dogsB Report 9 Sep 2008 07:32

Hi Sheila wondered if you would possible do a census search before the 1901 for Alfred Ritchie born 1873 Scotland , possible one of small islands. Trying to find parents and siblings. any help most grateful kas

Andrea

Andrea Report 9 Sep 2008 08:01

Hi SJR
I have tried everything and everyone but so far no info. My ggrandather was George Fletcher b 9/5/1861 and his wife Ellen Armitage 2/2/1860. I cannot find out what their parents names were or if they had any siblings.They were married on 9/8/1883 at St Barnabas Hull ref HBA/2/190 (can't remember where I got that from) Their birth dates and actual marriage dates were in an old family bible but that's as far back as it goes.
They had a son George Harold Fletcher born 18/7/1884
Any help woukd be appreciated.
Thanks a lot
Andrea

SJR

SJR Report 9 Sep 2008 08:32

Karon,

This is the only one I can find.

1881
Name: Alfred Ritchie
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Christina
Gender: Male
Where born: Fife, Dunfermline
Registration Number: 424
Registration district: Dunfermline
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
Town: Dunf
County: Fife
Address: Comely Park
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 77
Line: 9
Roll: cssct1881_117
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Ritchie 8
Alfred Ritchie 11
Andrew Ritchie 53
Ann Ritchie 6
Christina Ritchie 44
Harriet Ruthven 19


Sheila

dogsB

dogsB Report 9 Sep 2008 08:45

thanks loads shiela will check when receive son Alfred birth certificate in next couple of days.please would it be possible to check woolwich for the parent Andrew and christina

SJR

SJR Report 9 Sep 2008 09:23

Andrea,
For reference

1891
George Fletcher
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirby Under Dale, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hull
Sub registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Fletcher 31
George Fletcher 27
George H Fletcher 6
Maud B Underwood 13



1871
George Fletcher
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Brandsby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Kirby Underdale
Town: Kirby Underdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Pocklington
Sub registration district: East Stamford Bridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Fletcher 13
George Fletcher 8
Isaac Fletcher 16
Martha Fletcher 11
Mary Jane Fletcher 14
Thomas Fletcher 51

Because the father is a widower I looked for the family in 1861 but could not find them.
The father was a Shoemaker

I found this possible entry for Ellen

1881
Ellen Armitage
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Angelina
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 8 Village Place
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Brush Maker

Registration district: Hull
Sub registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelina Armitage 42
Charles Armitage 5
Ellen Armitage 21
Joseph Armitage 53
Josephine Armitage 6
Sarah Jane Richardson 13

When I checked the 1861 census it gave her birth place as Doncaster

Sheila