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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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Sandra

Sandra Report 1 Sep 2010 09:40

Hi Michelle
Please would you look up Dorothy Breese who was born Lambeth or Wandsworth 1906, parents Frederick Breese and Nellie Smith. She married in 1940s Richard (Dick) Smith and they lived on a farm in Wantage, Berkshire, they had a son called John about 1945. Then in 1960s she moved back to Colliers Wood, and died in 1960s.
Thanks Sandra

Renes

Renes Report 31 Aug 2010 11:11

Hi Michelle

After sent a pm I found your thread - typical -

So am nudging up

Irene in Spain

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Aug 2010 11:20

Liz

Yes it is less likely. Although saying that i had an ancestor listed as a Gentleman and his daughter did work. I think this maybe a case of strays from the 1841 sadly. There is no sign of them. I am unsure with regards missing census parts on the 1841, this maybe an option? Most census years have missing parts.
Good luck with your tree.

Michelle

GenieAngel

GenieAngel Report 2 Aug 2010 21:46

Hi Michelle,

Thank you ever so much for looking for these elusive ancestors of mine. I really appreciate all the time that you have spent looking. You are a star.
The one of Mary Ann does look promising I will look further into that. In 1846 when Mary Ann gets married John Walker has his occupation as gentleman so less likely that she would be working.

Thanks again
Liz

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 2 Aug 2010 10:31

Liz

Not much luck with that 1841...the 1841 is a difficult census as being the first there were many errors in it. In later census if people were not in when visited they were followed up, this did not alway happen on the 1841. There are many strays on this census, people who were not recorded. I found a possible for Mary Ann...maybe working in this house? She is listed as not born in the area she was in at the time. Which is true as she was born in Kent.

1841 England Census
about Mary Ann Walker
Name: Mary Ann Walker
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St James
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: St James Square
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizth Carter 50
William Tuell 55
Charlotte Tuell 50
William Williams 50
Margaret Moreley 30
Sophia Arthur 30
Caroline Barton 20
Elizth Towle 25
Eliza Compton 25
Maryann Johnson 20
Caroline Telbot 15
Ann Ellins 20
Mary Ann Walker 15
Henry Lewis 25
Mary Coles 25
Elizth Gardner 20
Emma Plaus 15


Elizabeth the head was a Dressmaker


Will see if i can find anything else...but i have spent quite some time looking.

GenieAngel

GenieAngel Report 22 Jul 2010 00:03

Hi Michelle,

Thank you for looking. I really appreciate your continued assistance. I'm hoping you can smash this brick wall of mine!!!

Looking forward to seeing what you can find on my Walker family!
Liz

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 22:52

Irene

Ah thanks so pleased for you :) I love helping people and love working on brick walls. Wish i had more time to give, but I work and have 2 kids so not always easy to be on here.

Happy searching and you know where i am if you need anymore help :)

Michelle

Renes

Renes Report 21 Jul 2010 22:04

Michell

Will do - thank you again - you have solved all but one of my tree - I am very very pleased - i am nearly at the very end of quest - it has taken about 3 years - really really enjoyed it - as you know I was beside my self with joy when you found Ada Jane for me - and I mean overjoyed - if ever I can do any thing for you just ask

My kindest regards

Irene

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 21:22

Irene

I don't know? I use Ancestry the mistranscript i found through my methods i use for hard to find people.The 1871 came up fine on Ancestry and the rest of the information i found through that record.
Each site does vary, 1 record you can find on 1 you might not find on the other.
Main thing is you have the information and make sure to get certs to verify it.

Michelle

Renes

Renes Report 21 Jul 2010 21:03

Michelle - I use FMP apart from the mistranscription - which I would never have got - why could I not find on census search - why did they not come up


Many many thanks

Irene

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:58

Irene

I am not 100% on Ann, i did wonder because she was not with the family on the 1841...so wondered if his first wife had died? But the 1861 was interesting with the Bowring surname.
There are a couple of deaths before 1840 for possible first wives if this is the case. Think 1 was Ann and the other was Jane.

Remember to always verify information with certs. Hope this has helped with that brick wall :)

Ah just seen your message...glad you are happy :)

Michelle

Renes

Renes Report 21 Jul 2010 20:50

Good grief Michelle - how do you do it - they all wrote Bincombe - I have hunted around Bincombe for days - just to get rid of the dreaded (mother) record - it turns out to be Winterbourne St Martin - Martinstown - as I read down the records - and saw Martinstown births - I expected Frederick Turner to pop up


What more can I say but thank you so very much - you have done Bessie Jane proud

Irene Palmer xxx

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:46

Irene

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Gender: Male
Father's Name: James Trevett
Spouse's name: Ann Bowring
Spouse's Father's Name: Isaac Bowring
Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1841
Marriage Place: Winterbourne-St Martin, Dorset, England

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:34

Irene

James father of Henry is not with his wife on the 1841 so i am wondering if Ann was not the mother of Henry???Found a possible marriage of James and Ann and will see if i can find out if she was Henry's mother

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Ann Bowring 1841 Dorchester Dorset
View Record
James Trevett 1841 Dorchester Dorset


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Dorchester
County: Dorset
Volume: 8
Page: 135 (click to see others on page)

With the above in mind...this looks interesting!!

1861 England Census
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Martinstown, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Winterborne St Martin
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 55
Ann Trevett 46
Emma Jane Trevett 30
Sarah Ann Bowring 14

Look at the surname of the listed Grandaughter....Sarah Ann Bowring!






***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:27

Irene

1841 census

1841 England Census
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: St Martin Winterbourne
Hundred: George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 35
Elizabeth Trevett 15
James Trevett 13
Jane Trevett 10
Henry Trevett 6

1841 England Census
about Elizabeth Trevett
Name: Elizabeth Trevett
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: St Martin Winterbourne
Hundred: George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 35
Elizabeth Trevett 15
James Trevett 13
Jane Trevett 10
Henry Trevett 6

1841 England Census
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: St Martin Winterbourne
Hundred: George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 35
Elizabeth Trevett 15
James Trevett 13
Jane Trevett 10
Henry Trevett 6

1841 England Census
about Jane Trevett
Name: Jane Trevett
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: St Martin Winterbourne
Hundred: George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 35
Elizabeth Trevett 15
James Trevett 13
Jane Trevett 10
Henry Trevett 6


1841 England Census
about Henry Trevett
Name: Henry Trevett
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: St Martin Winterbourne
Hundred: George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 35
Elizabeth Trevett 15
James Trevett 13
Jane Trevett 10
Henry Trevett 6

No address listed
James a Ag Lab
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:22

Irene

Henry with poss parents on the 1851

1851 England Census
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterborne St Martin, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Winterborne St Martin
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 45
Ann Trevett 36
James Trevett 22
Emma Jane Trevett 20
Henry Trevett 17

1851 England Census
about Ann Trevett
Name: Ann Trevett
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Winterborne St Martin, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Winterborne St Martin
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 45
Ann Trevett 36
James Trevett 22
Emma Jane Trevett 20
Henry Trevett 17

1851 England Census
about James Trevett
Name: James Trevett
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Godmanston, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Winterborne St Martin
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 45
Ann Trevett 36
James Trevett 22
Emma Jane Trevett 20
Henry Trevett 17

1851 England Census
about Emma Jane Trevett
Name: Emma Jane Trevett
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Piddlehinton, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Winterborne St Martin
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 45
Ann Trevett 36
James Trevett 22
Emma Jane Trevett 20
Henry Trevett 17

1851 England Census
about Henry Trevett
Name: Henry Trevett
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Piddlehinton, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Winterborne St Martin
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub-registration district: Maiden Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
James Trevett 45
Ann Trevett 36
James Trevett 22
Emma Jane Trevett 20
Henry Trevett 17

James Ann and James Jnr and Henry all Ag Lab

Address not listed


















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:17

Irene


Mistanscribed on the 1861


1861 England Census
about Henry Trippett
Name: Henry Trippett
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Martinstone, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Weston Super Mare
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Weston Super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Banwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trippett 27
Martha Trippett 28
Bessey Trippett 5
Arthur Trippett 3

1861 England Census
about Martha Trippett
Name: Martha Trippett
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Upway, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Weston Super Mare
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Weston Super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Banwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trippett 27
Martha Trippett 28
Bessey Trippett 5
Arthur Trippett 3

1861 England Census
about Bessey Trippett
Name: Bessey Trippett
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Upway, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Weston Super Mare
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Weston Super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Banwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trippett 27
Martha Trippett 28
Bessey Trippett 5
Arthur Trippett 3

1861 England Census
about Arthur Trippett
Name: Arthur Trippett
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Upway, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Weston Super Mare
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Weston Super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Banwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trippett 27
Martha Trippett 28
Bessey Trippett 5
Arthur Trippett 3

Address 3 Stamp Place
Henry a Labourer ( builder


Poss marriage to Martha?

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Martha Cox 1855 Weymouth (To 1958) Dorset
View Record
Henry Trevett 1855 Weymouth (To 1958) Dorset

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Henry Trevett
Name: Henry Trevett
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Weymouth (To 1958)
County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 563 (click to see others on page)


















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:11

Irene

1871 continued....

1871 England Census
about Bessie J Trevett
Name: Bessie J Trevett
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Upwey, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Bincombe
Town: Ridgeway
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 37
Martha Trevett 39
Bessie J Trevett 15
Arthur Trevett 13
Frederick Trevett 9
Alfred Trevett 5

1871 England Census
about Arthur Trevett
Name: Arthur Trevett
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Upwey, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Bincombe
Town: Ridgeway
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 37
Martha Trevett 39
Bessie J Trevett 15
Arthur Trevett 13
Frederick Trevett 9
Alfred Trevett 5

1871 England Census
about Frederick Trevett
Name: Frederick Trevett
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Upwey, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Bincombe
Town: Ridgeway
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 37
Martha Trevett 39
Bessie J Trevett 15
Arthur Trevett 13
Frederick Trevett 9
Alfred Trevett 5

1871 England Census
about Alfred Trevett
Name: Alfred Trevett
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Upwey, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Bincombe
Town: Ridgeway
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 37
Martha Trevett 39
Bessie J Trevett 15
Arthur Trevett 13
Frederick Trevett 9
Alfred Trevett 5

Address Royal Oak

Henry a Ag Lab
Arthur a Ag Lab













***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 20:09

Irene

Here you go...starting with the 1881 showing the occupation as listed on the 1874 entry

1881 England Census
about Henry Trevett
Name: Henry Trevett
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Martinstown, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Bincombe
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address: Ridgeway Hamlet
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Stone Quarryman

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 48
Martha Trevett 49
Frederick Trevett 19
Alfred Trevett 15

1881 England Census
about Martha Trevett
Name: Martha Trevett
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Upway, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Bincombe
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address: Ridgeway Hamlet
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 48
Martha Trevett 49
Frederick Trevett 19
Alfred Trevett 15

1881 England Census
about Frederick Trevett
Name: Frederick Trevett
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Upway, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Bincombe
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address: Ridgeway Hamlet
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Lab

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 48
Martha Trevett 49
Frederick Trevett 19
Alfred Trevett 15

1881 England Census
about Alfred Trevett
Name: Alfred Trevett
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Upway, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Bincombe
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address: Ridgeway Hamlet
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Serv In Garden & House

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 48
Martha Trevett 49
Frederick Trevett 19
Alfred Trevett 15

and here is the 1871 showing Bessie

1871 England Census
about Henry Trevett
Name: Henry Trevett
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Martinstown, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Bincombe
Town: Ridgeway
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 37
Martha Trevett 39
Bessie J Trevett 15
Arthur Trevett 13
Frederick Trevett 9
Alfred Trevett 5

1871 England Census
about Martha Trevett
Name: Martha Trevett
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Upwey, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Bincombe
Town: Ridgeway
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Trevett 37
Martha Trevett 39
Bessie J Trevett 15
Arthur Trevett 13
Frederick Trevett 9
Alfred Trevett 5

continue....

















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Jul 2010 19:57

Liz

I have been looking but have had no luck. I don't want to give up yet so will return to looking further.

Michelle