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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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angie2405

angie2405 Report 12 Nov 2008 11:12

Mchelle

Thank you VERY much for all the information you have me.

Regards

Angie

Margaret

Margaret Report 12 Nov 2008 12:53

Michelle

Just been looking through williams Medical record and saw his father was down as John William Smith.
Mags

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 12 Nov 2008 13:06

Margaret

Good well looks like the death i gave you for a John W could be the 1.If you don't mind taking the risk of not being him(as Smith is such a common name)might be an idea to get it and see who registered the death.Would be a family member-1 of the kids perhaps?

Michelle

Margaret

Margaret Report 12 Nov 2008 13:26

Thanks Michelle
Going to order it see what it says .Will let you know.

Mags

MRJH

MRJH Report 12 Nov 2008 14:27

Hi Michelle. I was more disappointed to see that your thread was deleted rather than mine lol. As i was the first post on it! I could always find your replies!

Thank You!

Smurf

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 12 Nov 2008 23:25

Booboo

If you get a chance could you answer the questions below on this thread(further down this page)then i will take another look for you.

Michelle : )

Neville & Kerry

Neville & Kerry Report 13 Nov 2008 04:23

Thankyou very kindly,Michelle,His marriage cert to Agnus doesn't state parents names,as here I believe,if you were over 21you didn't need it on your marriage cert.I believe he arrived in Tasmania by boat but this is not confirmed so I cannot be sure of that either.He's the puzzle we need to find.All I have is born in 1838 and died in 1877,married Agnus Scott in Tasmania in 1869.4boys born in Tasmania.Not alot to go on is it?I found my dad's first cousin(Ingrid) on here and it was Ingrid who filled me in on this much,but her also has come to the same brick wall.I will ask Cherilyn if she could find anything.We both believe he came by boat from England,but as far as rumour in family,we originated Scotland.Thanks again for your tips I'll let you know more if I can get more.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 12:24

Jane

This is the only match i can find.

She poss married Jonathan Humphrey on the 1851 without the s on the end.Birthyear a little out but this is very common on the census records and is why their is abt before birthyears.Also maybe as her husband was younger than her they put her birthyear a year after his.

1851 England Census
about Jonathan Humphrey
Name: Jonathan Humphrey
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Woburn, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: Ratcliff St James
Town: Ratcliff
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Constable 20
Alice Humphrey 27
Jonathan Humphrey 28
Thomas Statt 19

1851 England Census
about Alice Humphrey
Name: Alice Humphrey
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jonathan
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: Ratcliff St James
Town: Ratcliff
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Constable 20
Alice Humphrey 27
Jonathan Humphrey 28
Thomas Statt 19

1851 England Census
about Hannah Constable
Name: Hannah Constable
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Ware, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: Ratcliff St James
Town: Ratcliff
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Constable 20
Alice Humphrey 27
Jonathan Humphrey 28
Thomas Statt 19

1851 England Census
about Thomas Statt
Name: Thomas Statt
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Dartmouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: Ratcliff St James
Town: Ratcliff
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Constable 20
Alice Humphrey 27
Jonathan Humphrey 28
Thomas Statt 19

Jonathan a Sawyer
Hannah a Labourer's daughter
Thomas can't quite make his occupation out sorry.

Address 25 Butcher Row













***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 14:50

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 15:10

Libra

Is that an exact birthyear?there are 2 coming up 1 for 1916 the other 1920

Michelle

Mary

Mary Report 13 Nov 2008 15:42

Hi Michelle,
Could you have a look for a marriage please, between an Ernest Arthur Lee and a wife with the surname Hampton ? I cannot find one on free BMD.
Their child was born 1922 in Cosford, if that is any help. Ernest Arthur Lee is from Hornsey, Middx.
Many thanks.
Regards
Mary

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 15:48

Libra

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Jane Heath
Name: Jane Heath
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Smith
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1300 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Jane A Heath
Name: Jane A Heath
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Maguire
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1151 (click to see others on page)





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 15:49

Libra

Although have just noticed this

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Jane A Heath
Name: Jane A Heath
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 2
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 730 (click to see others on page)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 17:22

Libra

The 2nd 1 down-Jane A died in 1918 i placed her record on this thread.I have to go to work now but will look when i get back if you wanted the other ladies marriage?Let me know if you do.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 22:06

Libra

I don't think you understood sorry.I found a death for the 1916 Jane A Heath in 1918 so i don't think this is the 1 you wanted.
This death record below

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Jane A Heath
Name: Jane A Heath
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 2
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 730 (click to see others on page)

this would most likely be this lady

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Jane A Heath
Name: Jane A Heath
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Maguire
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1151 (click to see others on page)


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 13 Nov 2008 23:52

Mary

Having probs all aft and tonight with searching the BMD index of the site i use.Their is a error occuring and is making searching impossible.Census records are ok just the BMD.I have reported this problem and hope to hear back from them a.s.a.p.

I did have a look for the marriage under the transcribed records and no matches for those surnames before 1922 or up to when the records are transcried to which is around 1925.

Michelle

Mary

Mary Report 14 Nov 2008 08:51

Many thanks for trying anyway.
Regards
Mary

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 14 Nov 2008 09:59

Libra

I found 2 births for you yesterday.You mentioned that the 1916 looked most likely.I then found a death record of a girl same name as the 1916 Jane A Heath who died aged 2 in 1918 in Sunderland.I think it is most likely that this child who died in 1918 is the Jane A Heath born in 1916 Sunderland as there is only 1 born in Sunderland in that year and not another in Sunderland until 1920.
So i am a little confused why you want me to find a marriage and children for this 1916 Jane cos if she died in 1918 she would not have gone on to have a family.

Michelle

Janice

Janice Report 14 Nov 2008 12:17

Hi Michelle ,
I hope you can help.I am trying to find the parents of Mary Frances Fysh born 1847 in King`s Lynn got her on the 1841 census but Mother Mary is a widow !!.She marries Robert Jenkins in Tynemouth in 1867 .I would be grateful for anything.
best regards
Jan Will

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 14 Nov 2008 14:35

Janice

Hi there!Looking at the youngest child who was born c1849 the father must have died between 1849-1851.There are 2 possibles.The 1851 was taken after both of these deaths.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Isaac Fysh
Name: Isaac Fysh
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Kings Lynn
County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 149 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Robert William Fysh
Name: Robert William Fysh
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kings Lynn
County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 148 (click to see others on page)

I am not 100% whether it is 1 of these 2 people.So i will need time to work on this.Did you say you had the 1841 for the mother Mary?

Michelle