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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 16:34

Martin,

First things first no I do not charge I do it for the thrill of the chase!!
I have nearly completed my tree and enjoy helping others who are stuck and need help breaking those brick walls!!!

Unless you subscribe to Ancestry, Find My Past etc then come on here and ask for help with cencus info this saves you alot of time finding children and also parents, the problem is they only cover 10 year periods from 1841 ~ 1901 and we are all sat waiting for the 1911 cencus to be released later this year.

A few free sites that will help you are

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

But these will really only help you as you get further back.

There are loads of others but these do help.


Can you tell me where your father and grand father were born and died.

The more info you can give me the less work I have to do and the quicker the results!!!


Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 16:57

Martin,

I have found this death

Lawrence Penman
b. 01 Aug 1929
d. Q2 1982
Windsor/M
19 0630

But can't find his birth or his father's.......were they born in England??

Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 17:04

Martin also can you tell me if your father had any siblings and their names please.

Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 17:36

Martin,

Is this your Grandparents marriage?

Marriages Sep 1922

BREWIN Caroline A ~ Penman
PENMAN Richard V ~ Brewin
Leicester 7a 820


Martin

Martin Report 7 Jan 2009 18:06

Right...
my father born in 1929 somwhere in India,
His father Percival Richard Penman, served in the British army in India...
My father came to UK with brothers and sisters in 1939
Siblings... Donald, Clarence, Peggy, Noreen

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 18:24

Martin,

Right pooooooooooooo!!!

What was your grandmother's name?

Also do you know where & when your Grandfather died?
And am I right in thinking all their children were born in India?

Martin

Martin Report 7 Jan 2009 19:52

Kirsty.. whats with the Poooooooooooo ?
Sorry to be so vague, I dont know much about my dads side unfortunately...
I have my fathers uk passport, Born 1st August 1929 in AHAMADABAD.
I was told a long time ago that my father came over to UK with his brothers and sisters when he was 10 and lived at an address near Twickenham.
Family gossip is that my grandfather served in the British Army in India { we have a British Army medal, inscribed on the side; Lance Corporal P R PENMAN. Bombay Railway }
We think that, possibly, whilst he served there he married an Indian lady, I do not have any details on her at all.
Regards
Martin.....

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 19:57

Martin,

pooooooooooooooooo!!! ~ was because this is going to be hard!!

I have asked someone to look on the incoming passenger lists for me to hopefully give us some more information.

I can't find a birth for your grandfather so I am thinking he was not born in the UK.

I am going to try and find his death which at least will give us his age.

Kirsty

Martin

Martin Report 7 Jan 2009 20:07

Kirsty....

Well, you said that you like a challenge.....

Martin.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 20:22

Martin.

LOOK

Name: Lawrence Penman
Birth Date: abt 1930
Age: 9
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521
Address 11 Sunningdale Avenue, Hanworth
Travelling tourist class
Travelling with
Emily Penman 42 (Under occupation is says H.D.)
Clarence Penman 14
Peggy Penman 7
Last country of permanent residence: India
Country of future intended permanent residence: England

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 7 Jan 2009 20:25

Martin

Name: Emily Penman
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 42
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521

Name: Clarence Penman
Birth Date: abt 1925
Age: 14
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 16452


Name: Peggy Penman
Birth Date: abt 1932
Age: 7
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521

Martin

Martin Report 7 Jan 2009 23:14

Kirsty...
Wow. yr amazing, where did you get all that stuff from... keep going!!
SO... EMILY PENMAN age 42..... that could be my grandmother.. under ocupation, what does HD mean ? Head of family ?
Could she have been Indian or travelled there from UK or as it states below; ' last country of permanent residence ' ?

Martin.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Jan 2009 10:16

Martin

Name: Percival Richard PENMANE

BirthDate: 27 NovYear: 1886

Location: Holy Trinity, Rangoon, (C. of E.)

Parents: Sandford, Rly-driver; Adelaide

Event type: Baptism

Date: 17 DecYear: 1886

Location: Holy Trinity, Rangoon, (C. of E.)

Parents: Sandford, Rly-driver; Adelaide




Name: Noreen Isabel PENMAN

Event type: MarriageStart date: 28 DecStart year: 1939

Location: St George's Church, Agra

Spouse: Reginald Charles GARROD, soldier, R.A.M.C.Age: 21Status:

Parents: Percival Richard
Bengal


Theres more!

Name: Vernon Percival Joseph PENMAN

Event type: BurialDate: 05 MarYear: 1938

Location: Kasganj

Age: Status: 17 1/2,

son of Percival Richard, loco foreman, & Emily Myrtle

Bengal

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Jan 2009 17:29

Martin,

Did you know your Grandfather remarried????


I have found this

Percival R Penman
Elsie C Woods
Q3 1948 Middlesex.S
5f 169

Also your Aunts & Uncles????

Clarence A Penman
Joyce R Gale
Q1 1948 Middlesex.S
5f 180

Peggy J Penman
Edward J Spellman
Q3 1957 Cardiff
8b 549

Lawrence S Penman
Doreen E Jennings
Q1 1957 Ealing
5e 474

Kirsty

Martin

Martin Report 8 Jan 2009 18:23

Kirsty,,,,,
So.... my dad, LAWRENCE, born in India, came to the UK in 1939, with his mum and brothers and sisters...... perhaps later joined by his father PERCIVAL, who remarried an ELSIE WOODS ??!!
i wonder what happened to EMILY ?
We used to go and visit his sister NOREEN in Hanworth and i remember her husband REGINALD GARROD...
I also fondly remember CLARENCE and PEGGY,, all now passed away.
SOOOOO much to think about and take in...
Im just going to have a think for a few mins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
thank you
Martin x

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Jan 2009 19:17

Martin.

Births Jun 1890

Woods Elsie Catharine Wellingbro' 3b 16[6_]

OR

Births Sep 1915

Woods Elsie C Whitworth Boston 7a 733


I am also trying to find the death of Emily

Kirsty

Lorna

Lorna Report 8 Jan 2009 20:46

hi, i am a mad mum of three. could u see if there is a marriage for george edward bridge born 1911 bermondsey to a kate eggleton circa 1912. this would have been a second marriage. his first marriage was in 1941 and he died in 1987. so somewhere in between. is this possible to find. many thanks

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Jan 2009 21:58

Lorna,

I will see what I can find but please remember there are at least 4 pages per year and I am searching 46 years!!!

Do you know if there were any children from the first marriage or even the second to try and narrow it down a bit?



MARTIN,

Death
Emily M Penman
Age 53
Q4 1948 Middlesex S
5f 33

So she died or the death was registered the quarter AFTER Percival remarried????

Wow I think you might need to order some certificates!!!

Kirsty

Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Jan 2009 12:24

Hi Mad Mum

Not sure if your can help

looking for details of a Patience Taylor born c 1810 (hopefully) in the areas you mention her daughter Eliza Harterton was born in Portsmouth 1830.

Petience died c1832

Many Thanks

Margaret

Martin

Martin Report 9 Jan 2009 13:08

Hi Kirsty
I have been talking to my sister about VERNON PENMAN, my fathers brother... my sister remembers my father talking about his brother who died young... apparently his died as a result of a snake bite....!!!! OOPS
PERCIVAL RICHARD PENMAN served in the British Army , we have his medal.. on the side it recalling it saying Lance Coprporal { LCPL } P R PENMAN Bombay Railway.... I'll try and get it from my sister and get some more detail...
Martin