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Cynthia Report 8 May 2013 20:38

Thank you Ann and Choccy.........really grateful for your help.......that just leave the two men now..........sigh..... This family is both fascinating and frustrating.

Kathy - another brick wall then? Never mind.......but so many thanks for looking and keeping an eye on things from up them.

So, where was this car crash then? England? India?

I can feel a headache coming on....... :-)


Choccy Report 8 May 2013 19:40


National Archive Reference: RG14PN135 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED48 SN269
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington South
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 48
Address: 9 Old Pembroke Place Kensington London
County: London

>>>>>FENWICK, Emily Goddard Head Single F 34 1877 Manageress Jersey C Isles
PATTERSON, Hilda Visitor Single F 43 1868 Hospital Nurse Ci Wicklow Bray Ireland

Kathy near the

Kathy near the Report 8 May 2013 19:18

Sorry people no good news to tell you .I looked at and got copies of all R M's in the whole of scotland and none looked to be him .

19 were single and the rest had occupations and living wives .No soldiers and no car crashes .

I got marriages for ross and cromarty 1905 and back and will have to check them out against census .

So do we think he died in England ?????


was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 8 May 2013 16:58

Here's Christophine in 1911

Christophine Fanny Georgina Goddard Fenwick
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wick, Warwick, England
Civil parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Sibella Road, Clapham S W
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SICK NURSE
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 2262
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cornwall Wright 85
Ida Sophia Wright 75
Ada Mary Wright 49
Maria Webb 43
Robert Edward Thomas Neal 77
Christophine Fanny Georgina Goddard Fenwick 40


Cynthia Report 8 May 2013 08:59

Good morning all and thank you Kathy......looking forward to hearing from you.

I find it odd, from the marriage certificate, that Diane does not state an occupation - given that she had been working at Springfield Hospital until around the time of her marriage :::: ? :-S

Can anyone who is good at searching for census things, please help me out?

I am trying to round up the siblings of Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick in the 1911 but am stuck on a couple of them.

One of the problems is the name factor..........sometimes they are Goddard or Fenwick or Goddard-Fenwick.........arrgghh

I am missing:


Christophine Fanny Goddard-Fenwick born 1870 Warwickshire - ?

William H. Willoughby Goddard-Fenwick born Jersey 1874 - should be in the Canadian census - Nova Scotia area, but can't see him.

Emily F. Goddard-Fenwick born Jersey 1877 ?

George Digby Goddard-Fenwick born Jersey c1880 - ?

I have these thanks!

Evelyn is in Wandsworth with 2 music teachers (one of whom is to be her future sister in law).

Gwendoline Goddard-Fenwick born 1880 - Sister of Charity, Wandsworth

Louisa C.C. born 1883 - Nun. Hyde Park.

Need a lie down now! :-D

Kathy near the

Kathy near the Report 8 May 2013 01:16

Will check out all the deaths in Scotland for Robert McLeod /Macleod 1906 - 1929 tomorrow .

Will let you all know .

Hope it is not like 2 weeks ago computers all down due to a power failure in Edinburgh hence no research at local RO's

So team all fingers crossed



Cynthia Report 6 May 2013 17:06


Date: 1st May 1929.

Place: Register Office, Wandsworth.

Bridegroom: Herbert Robert John ROY aged 21 - bachelor ( commercial traveller - soft goods).
Address: 76 Fircroft Road, Upper Tooting.
Father: Herbert Walter ROY (warehouseman)

Bride: Diane Leslie MACLEOD aged 23 - spinster (no occupation)
Address: 53 Khartoum Road, Tooting.
Father: Robert MACLEOD (deceased). Major 1st Seaforth Highlanders

Witnesses: E. M. Roy (Bridegroom's mother)
F.H. Pratt (friend of bridegroom)


Cynthia Report 5 May 2013 16:12

Hello all.

Wisechild, page 36 on here gives you a good account bout the thoughts on that death. FBG sent for the d/c and states that Robert left £200 and a few belongings.

Would love to involve Bill Lawson in this search - but have you seen his prices???

Thanks Renes.......whenever it's convenient to you.

Thanks to you all........................... :-)

Meanwhile, I'll go back and trawl through the G-F connection....again!


wisechild Report 5 May 2013 12:16

Yes Susan.
That´s the one. Think Chirsty MacKinnon was Murdo´s mother, not Catherines.
In 1881 there was an Anne Macleod, mother, living with the household.
Catherine MacKinnon was a widow in 1917 according to the probate of Robert Macleod´s will. She could easily have had another couple of children with Murdo before he died.
Wondered if there was a "cuckoo" in the MacKinnon nest in 1911, or at least an isabella.
That would mean the old lady whose death we are looking for would have been Kate MacKinnon, not Kate Macleod
I´m really trying hard to make this one stick ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)


Susan Report 5 May 2013 07:53

Is this the census you refer to wisechild.(Appoligies if already posted)

1901 Scotland Census
about Catherine A Mckinnon Name: Catherine A Mckinnon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Murdo Mckinnon
Mother's Name: Chirsty Mckinnon
Gender: Female
Where born: Harris, inverness-shire
Registration number: 88
Registration district: Stornoway
Civil parish: Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: 10 Holm
Occupation: Crofter's Wife
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_24
Household Members: Name Age
Murdo Mckinnon 32
Catherine A Mckinnon 30
Donald Mckinnon 6
Hennetta Mckinnon 4
Finlay Mckinnon 2
Angus Mckinnon 11mths
Chirsty Mckinnon 70


wisechild Report 5 May 2013 07:00

Regarding the 1917 will for Robert Macleod in Liverpool.
Catherine Macleod McKinnon had a brother called Robert Macleod. She married Murdo MacKinnon & among others they had a son called Donald by 1901.
Don´t have access to Scottish records & the names are pretty common, but perhaps someone could check it out, please & take a look at the 1911.
If it is "our" family, Robert would have been quite a bit older than I had assumed. Not impossible if he was a career soldier. One of my soldier ancestors married for the 1st time in his 40s.
Sorry I can´t take this any further.


Renes Report 4 May 2013 22:03

Just to confirm I am working on the hospital collation Cynthia

and having a general dig about ........

Have family here at moment so waiting the return of my peace and quiet

Edit ... Typo


wisechild Report 4 May 2013 14:14

Have sent Cynthia a pm re searching the passenger lists.
Unfortunately I´m not able to at the moment.
Perhaps someone else could volunteer. :-) :-)


Stuart Report 4 May 2013 14:05

1901 census transcription details for: 51, Maida Vale, Paddington

Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 8
Folio: 95
Page: 13
Reg. District: Paddington
Sub District: St Mary Paddington
Parish: Paddington
Enum. District: 31
Ecclesiastical District: St Saviour
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 51, Maida Vale, Paddington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MALLISON, J H Single M 34 1867 No Occupation Ireland
LILLEY, L House Keeper Widow F 28 1873 Housekeeper Leeds, Yorkshire
LESLIE, M Boarder Widow F 24 1877 Boarder Woolwich
JONES, E Servant Single F 18 1883 Servant Woolwich
LESLIE, D Baby Single F 1 (15 MOS) 1900 London


PatinCyprus Report 4 May 2013 13:53

100 M Leslie Boarder 24 abt 1877 Female Woolwich
Add Update 100 E Jones Servant 18 abt 1883 Female Woolwich
Add Update 100 D Leslie Baby (Infant) 1 3 Months abt 1899 Female d London

No relationship added


Vanessa Report 4 May 2013 13:06

This one is a little older than we think Diane was, but can we check this one??

Name: D Leslie
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Female
Age: 1
Relationship to Head of Household: Baby
Birthplace: London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Paddington
Sub-District: St Mary Paddington
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Saviour
Civil Parish: Paddington
District/Parish/County: London, Middlesex

EDIT: There is an M Leslie aged 24 in the household, but I can only do free searches so cannot determine relationships or who else might e in the household :-S


Kay???? Report 4 May 2013 12:47

I belive I read the Nicholson school on Stornoway register had been checked for D L Macleod,,,,,,,but if she renamed herself then she wont appear in that name,,,,,,,but a match maybe found to her DOB.

as Dolina,Donadina,Maudina,(a name used female and male)

Bill Lawson as recomended has extensive knowledge of the Hebrides and its local records,,,I wonder if he can give any pointers,,,I belive there is the Stornoway Gazette ,was it in print back then.?


Cynthia Report 4 May 2013 12:46

ooops forgot to say that I had wondered if the the G-F relationship may have been from earlier on with the music link etc. I am still in the midst of refining the family.......


Cynthia Report 4 May 2013 12:44

Quick visit.....thanks again all.

I like the word 'enigma'. Maybe we should call this the "Enigma" thread... :-D

Renes had volunteered to pull all references to Diane's hospital work on this thread together. I'll give her a nudge and see how she is doing......there's some info around the page 30 mark Pat.

Kay, it may be worth checking back to see if your findings have been spotted before.

Must go.........


PatinCyprus Report 4 May 2013 12:10

What job did Diane do at the hospital?

If she was a state registered nurse - she had her name on a register, was this kept?

Was she a secretary - training at a college?

Was she an unpaid charity worker? Many upper and middle class young women of that era did charity work. Many of the inmates could have been soldiers of WW1 mentally damaged by the war. Many saw it as their duty to help as so many families were left with casualties.