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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 May 2009 02:32

Have you found any marriages for a Stanley Greenhalgh? I wonder if he were married before and that's why you can't find his marriage to Yvonne. He would have been 39 by the time Michael was born. Hard to imagine he'd managed to stay a bachelor all those years.

Rose

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 2 May 2009 07:27

Hi Annie,

I realise the mmn is given as Gore but does the birth cert say formerly Gore or previously Gore as you have typed.

As a birth cannot be found under the name Gore, maybe she was just calling herself Gore.

Have you searched for a death for Stanley Edward?

Christine

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 2 May 2009 13:22

I have found no marraige for Stanley at all- Even if Stanley had married previously he wouldn't have changed his name so that would not effect searching presumably...?

As for birth cert- its says Yvonne May Greenhalgh- Formoely GORE

I'm going to go search the elcetoral registers to see if this sheds any light on the situation??

that really is where my knowledge ends....? I have exhausted all avenue to search and drew up blank- I'm going to wait for certs to arrive and see if that helps me any further...?

I am searching for deaths- am starting at 1953 and working my way forward.....

Thanks guys again for your help

Annie x

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 2 May 2009 13:26

Can we get records from the hospital for employees-

My brother in law just said he remembers Yvonne being a nurse? in bethnal green hospital?

Its a long shot but a possibiltiy....?

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 2 May 2009 18:55

Hi Annie,

there is this marriage for a Stanley E Greenhalgh in Denbighshire

Stanley E Greenhalgh.............Jones
St Asaph
3rd qtr 1937
vol11b page 468


ST. ASAPH REGISTRATION DISTRICT

Registration County : Denbighshire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1974 (succeeded by Rhuddlan district).
Sub-districts : Abergele; Denbigh; Rhyl; St. Asaph.

Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 2 May 2009 19:20

DEATH

Stanley Edward Greenhalgh dob 27 June 1915
Poplar
4th qtr 1971
vol 5d page 1343

Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 2 May 2009 19:28

these are the only three that I can find listed around that time.

GREENHALGH Stanley mmn Brown Bolton.8c 726 4 1915


GREENHALGH Stanley Tootle mmnChorley.8e 755 3 1915


GREENHALGH Stanley E mmnBirdwhistle Conway.11b 830 3 1914


Now, it is highly likely that his birth was registered in the 3rd qtr (Jul-Aug-Sept) as his date of birth was at the end of June and.........it is just as possible that the person who registered the death got the year wrong by 1 year.

My best bet is that it is the Stanley E Greenhalgh with mothers maiden name Birdwhistle...........for what it's worth! It would appear to be the only one with a Welsh connection too.

Brenda

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 2 May 2009 21:07

thank you guys-

the death moodyblue is the death cert i have orderded,

births-
I'm. drawn to
GREENHALGH Stanley Tootle mmnChorley.8e 755 3 1915

matches the death you mentioned

I'm going to wait for these to come and go from there i think: did an electoral search today:

1953 An EDWARD and YVONNE Greenhalgh lives in the pub mentioned previously after that they dissapear!!! S no help to me

My theroy:

Yvonne was married previously as Patricia (daughter) was not born a Greenhalgh, thats why we have no records, i think Stanley could have possibly had a previous marraige also from record i'm pulling up

when know any more will update here

thanks again for all your help

annie x

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 May 2009 21:35

Well done Brenda.

There are a lot of Greenhalgh/Jones births but this one sticks out:


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Penelope Greenhalgh
Name: Penelope Greenhalgh
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1943
Registration district: St Asaph
Registration county: Wales
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 241

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 May 2009 21:38

Ann-Marie,

I don't think Yvonne had been married before because Gore is listed as the maiden name and is also Patricia's surname.

I think you need to continue your search for Stanley E Greenhalgh marriages. You need to include years after 1953 in case he obtained a divorce or his first wife died.

Rose

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 2 May 2009 22:12

Thankyou Rose.......appreciated!

I have looked for a marriage from 1953 - 1971 but couldn't find one for Stanley Edward Greenhalgh............but that is not to say that I didn't somehow miss it!

Brenda

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 May 2009 22:59

Stanley married Emily G Jones.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 May 2009 23:00

Birth?

Births Dec 1912
Jones Emily G Cornwall St.Asaph 11b 528

Rose

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 2 May 2009 23:15

Sorry- pc crashed on me!!!

I'm lost.... Greenhalgh-Jones?

how did we get to this? Is this possibly a first marriage for stanley?

thanks guys

Annie x

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 2 May 2009 23:22

ah ha- i have just re-read it and got it

i researched that marriage Greenhalgh to jones and i found

EMILY G JONES same district and St Ash like you put??

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 2 May 2009 23:25

So.................no birth record for Yvonne Gore.....but
there is this in Sept QTR of 1919:

Gore May Jones Swansea 11a 2003

Mmn Jones - is that just a coincidence?

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 2 May 2009 23:41

GREENHALGH Stanley Jones Oldham 8d 2513
Marriages Sep 1935

found this its a new entry to FBDM- but tried to cross refrence jones to greenhalgh with above numbers and nothing

am searching GR Marriages now to see what comes up

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 2 May 2009 23:46

There is this birth a year later:

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Gore Emily M Jones Swansea 11a 2348

Forgive me if I'm throwing in red herrings but there may be connections given the names.




Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 3 May 2009 00:32

found a match!

JONES Gwledye- married Greenhalgh

OLDHAM

8d 2313 so it matches my first find for 1935.....

going to run death search for both gwledye and emily and see what comes up

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 3 May 2009 00:45

Correction:

its GWLADYE her name typo... sorry