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Tania

Tania Report 5 May 2009 12:43

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Births Dec 1913 (95%)
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Greenhalgh Mary A Tootle Chorley 8e 828

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Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Greenhalgh Stanley Tootle Chorley 8e 755

chorley is in lancashire

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 5 May 2009 20:18

Did I miss something? Who is Shirley Teal?

Rose

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 5 May 2009 21:41

Shirley Teal was some body who PM'd me- to let me know that she knew of a Ronnie GORE- just info-

Only posted it as info- just as it is it news that i had.

Don't worry no new people to find!! :D

Thanks

Annie x

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 7 May 2009 21:35

Hmm thought at first there was no Greenhalgh/Tootle marriage but there are a few possibilities on FreeBMD if you just put Too*. There is one in Chorley, I'll let you take a look Annie before muddying the water with a list of possibles,

Have you recieved Yvonne's death cert yet?

Julie

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 9 May 2009 15:44

Hi guys-

I was waiting by the post box daily!! and the certs arrived- but it was the ones i orderded last!! the first two have not come yet!!! :'(

OK- Birth certs:

Stanley Edward Greenhalgh- 27-07-1914 born in colwyn bay

Father: George Frederick Greenhalgh

Mother- Juliana Greenhalgh formely BIRDWHISTLE

Occ of father commercial clerk

Lived in Dillgle Villa, Dillgle Hill colwyu bay


OTHER CERT:

Stanley Greenhalgh DOB: 21-08-1915

POB: Backstreet Chorley

Father: Joseph Greenhalgh

Mother: Elizabeth Greenhalgh Formely TOOTLE

Occ of father Colliery Engine Tester

So still does not give us much to go on does it? untill Yvonnes death cert and patricias bcert then we can go from there....

I am inclined now like you moodyblue to go with TOOTLE one- DOB match apart from year of BIRTH but it could be a mistake?

Thanks alot guys

Annie x

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 9 May 2009 19:06

You mean the Birdwhistle one......dont you?

Brenda

Tania

Tania Report 9 May 2009 19:09

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Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Greenhalgh George Frederick juliana birdwhistle Stockport 8a 35
1901 England Census
about George F Greenhalgh
Name: George F Greenhalgh
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Juliana
Gender: Male
Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Ladybarn St Chad
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 69
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
George F Greenhalgh 26
Juliana Greenhalgh 25


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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 May 2009 19:42

Yep ,she must mean birdwhistle one

Death cert had DOB
DOB: 27th June 1915
PLACE: MANCHESTER
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Stanley Edward Greenhalgh- 27-07-1914 born in colwyn bay
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Stanley Greenhalgh DOB: 21-08-1915



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the colwyn bay one is only one with 27 in it.
Out by one month and one year
But the other is out by 2 months and it has no edward in it.

that is my diagnosis and I am sticking to it

Colwyn bay wins, if it were my rellie thats the one I would follow.
Even if on his death cert it says he was born manchester,he could have been brought up there from a young child and thought he was born there.
viv

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 9 May 2009 23:48

Yes sorry guys!! You were indeed correct- I am going with the birdwhistle one! Sorry long day and typos happen :l

i think maybe Yvonne may have not know all the details on the death register?? as they dont appear to have got married maybe she just never saw his birthcert and as you say viv maybe he grew up in manchester.

i am going to wait for the other two certs to come through- but any ideas as to where i should go next?

Thanks as always guys

Annie x

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 10 May 2009 00:07

Marriages Mar 1900
Birdwhistle Juliana Stockport 8a 35

Marriages Mar 1900
Greenhalgh George Frederick Stockport 8a 35

ok found this defo Stans parents according to birth cert.

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 10 May 2009 00:24

Possible births?

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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BIRDWHISTLE Juliana Ashton
8d

Only Juliana that came up

Births Sep 1881
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GREENHALGH George Frederick Bolton 8c 467

Unsure of this one due to age gap between parents

Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
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Greenhalgh George Frederick Northwich
8a 25

This is the one I'm drawn to due to ages....?

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 10 May 2009 00:36

Ok going back to page 5- Moodyblue asked about overseas births:

This message was sent to me by Brenda (which i thought was you?) via PM

there is an entry for a Yvonne Gore on the Family search .org site Her age is given as 9 in 1920 and she was b in England but lives in America her father was b in Germany and her mother in France
the entry is in the search pilot records


dont know if this helps?

Do you think I should take a trip to Kew and have a look at nurses records?


Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 10 May 2009 01:03

ok last one!!

Viv- just going back to your message- all details except YOB (year of birth) match, day and month

thanks

Annie x

Tania

Tania Report 10 May 2009 18:33

1891 England Census
about Geo F Greenhalgh
Name: Geo F Greenhalgh
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Frederick W
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Stretford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bride
Town: Stretford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration district: Stretford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick W Greenhalgh 37
Mary Greenhalgh 42
Geo F Greenhalgh 16
Edward Greenhalgh 12
Frank Greenhalgh 9
Eleanor M Greenhalgh 1


Tania

Tania Report 10 May 2009 18:36

1891 England Census
about Juliana Birdwhistle
Name: Juliana Birdwhistle
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Haughton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Innocents
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John T Birdwhistle 60
Hannah Birdwhistle 54
Mary E Birdwhistle 21
Juliana Birdwhistle 18
Emily Birdwhistle 55


Jooleh

Jooleh Report 10 May 2009 20:00

Since all the other records appear to relate to Lancashire perhaps they were on holiday in Colwyn Bay when Stanley was born!

That Yvonne Gore looks interesting.......

Tania

Tania Report 10 May 2009 20:07

dont think these guys are on the 1911 census, already in wales?

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 10 May 2009 20:08

Yvonne Gore looks like she does not exist!! ;D

no body can find any record of her other than death.....? strange eh?

Thanks Tania!!

Annie x

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 10 May 2009 20:30

Tania did wales not have a 1911 census?

Pam

Pam Report 10 May 2009 20:40

I think 1911 for Wales is not yet online but should be soon