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looking for scottish birth can some one help

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Michelle

Michelle Report 11 May 2009 23:10

Thomas Heaney abt 1848 glasgow we think it is

he married a lizetta we know this just cant find his birth it says scotland thats all we know

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 May 2009 23:36

Possible marriage.

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Thomas Heaney 1878 Wolstanton Staffordshire
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George Plant 1878 Wolstanton Staffordshire
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Emma Porter 1878 Wolstanton Staffordshire
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Lizzetta Harvey Rowley 1878 Wolstanton Staffordshire
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This would show his father's name.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 May 2009 23:38

Scotlandspeople only have births back to 1855,unless you can find it in the parish records that they have online.
If he married in scotland his marriage cert will give you his parents names including his mothers maiden name.

scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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alviegal

alviegal Report 11 May 2009 23:39

For reference


1881 England Census
about Thomas Heeney
Name: Thomas Heeney
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lissitta
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Wolstanton - Thursfield
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Newchapel
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
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Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Heeney 33
Lissitta Heeney 20
Mary E.H. Rowley 13 visitor




1891 England Census
about Thomas Heaney
Name: Thomas Heaney
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lisetta
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Penkhull
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Stoke upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Heaney 43
Lisetta Heaney 29
May Heaney 9
Lily Heaney 8
James Heaney 6
Joseph Heaney 4
Francis Heaney 6/12

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Liz

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 May 2009 23:55

Here she is in prison. Wonder what she did?


1901 England Census
about Lizzetta Heaney
Name: Lizzetta Heaney
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Female
Where born: Tunstall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Stafford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Stafford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: His Majestys Prison
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Bell 45
Alice Annie Cheese 40
Rose Hannah Lees Harris 31
Ellen Catherine Tucker 30
Martha Ann Johns 28
Annie Elizabeth Davies 27
Margaret Donovan 24
Ellen Wantling 30
Eliza Ann Williams 25
Mary Ann Oakes 34
Ellen Duggan 30
Ellen Wilson 40
Mary Broomhall 31
Mary Ann Wright 44
Lavinia Birch 35
Annie James 20
Sarah Collins 47
Eliza Powell 20
Margaret Walker 33
Sarah Ann Elwell 41
Sarah Alsopp 41
Ellen Morris 36
Mary Jane Smith 42
Sarah Jane Hall 34
Sarah Hampton 40
Eliza Mason 29
Ann Jane Richards 43
Jacob Richards 11 months
Catherine Walton 23
Mary Cooper 33
Maggie Latham 21
Annie Elizh Bowring 27
Ellen Grogan 24
Ellen Rimmer 34
Annie Dillon 29
Jane Robinson 28
Mary Parker 40
Mary Ann Melia 29
Eliza Avery 37
Elizabeth Myers 34
Alice Tipton 45
Lizzetta Heaney 39
Agnes Ann Shelley 37
Eva Gouthwaite 37
Catherine Shaw 41
Elizabeth Kilbride 30
Joseph Dooley 23
Joseph Marsh 36
Peter Minshall 19
Evan Heath 37
Thomas Yardley 48
Isaac Doughty 34
David Simcox 32
Henry Price 53
Henry Hilton 29
John Ward 36
Patrick Casey 29
George Jenkinson 32
Maria Lloyd 34
Rachel Howell 30
Mary Ann Cooper 45
James Carney 28
Alfred Ford 47
Joseph Hunt 20
Thomas Garland 35
Walter Day 20
William Henry Day 24
William Williams 50
John Nolan 45
Harry Pugh 32
Arthur Overton 23
James Wright 22
Thomas Minton 33
Leonard Newbold 22
Thomas Street 18
Elijah Cotton 22
Henry Lewis Tunnicliffe 17
William Cadwallader 26
Benjamin Ireson 20
Elijah Leighton 26
Nicolo Di Pede 36
George Pedley 21
William Mc Nally 57
George Salt 43
Henry Bonsor Day 22
Henry Knight 30
John Dunn 21
Charles Mayer 45
Thomas Beaston 54
Charles Dean 29
James Hicker 29
William Colelough 42
Stephen Cocklin 43
Peter Costilow 46
Patrick Campbell 25
John Norman 37
George Ralphs 36
Thomas Hughes 52
Thomas Davis 49
William Caddick 64

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His death?

Name: Thomas Heaney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 51
District: Stoke Upon Trent
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 147

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 May 2009 23:59

Maybe marrying a policeman was an offence??
Sorry,I will be serious now.

Or was she living there as part of the staff?

Michelle

Michelle Report 11 May 2009 23:59

her husband had died the kids are in diffrent ones

Michelle

Michelle Report 12 May 2009 00:03

ViviennexxYngxxNghymru omg hahahah you on fine form tonight arnt ya lmao

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 May 2009 00:08

I have had a look on SP for his baptism and spent my last credit,this is all I found by using sountex.

o Date Surname Forename Parent Names/Frame No. Sex Parish City/County GROS Data Image Extract
1 22/07/1846 HANNAY THOMAS THOMAS HANNAY/MARY SMELLIE FR582 M Monkton and Prestwick /AYR 606/ 0030 0211 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
2 24/09/1846 HANNAY THOMAS THOMAS HANNAY/ELIZABETH CLANAHAN FR434 M Penninghame /WIGTOWN 895/ 0020 0178 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
3 05/12/1847 HANNAY THOMAS SCOTT ANTHONY HANNAY/MARION PATERSON SCOTT FR3472 CHILD 2 M Barony GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/ 0130 0213 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER


And why would they be in a prison instead of the workhouse then if it was just that thomas had died?
Surely the police would have helped out even back then.
I am not saying they did anything wrong,just wondering.

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 May 2009 00:08

Michelle, can't find a birth so I really think you need the marriage certificate to get father's name and occupation.

Liz

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 May 2009 00:12

One does try to lighten things sometimes michelle.
viv

Michelle

Michelle Report 12 May 2009 00:18

yeh just read that he was a police man as a job hmm thanks for the help all xx

Michelle

Michelle Report 12 May 2009 00:23

will order his marrige cert thanks for the help i now know he was a policeman and his wife must have been working in the prison by looks of it

Jemma

Jemma Report 15 May 2017 14:32

On the 1901 she is classed as a prisoner.Her children were in the workhouse.In 1906 she married Absolom Harter in Warrington