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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 14:25

Your Mariann was born 1884
If that list was 1881

George KIMBERLY W 47
Equestrian Comedian (Performer)

was born 1834

Q1 where are his children

Q2 Where are the rest of the Dickens family

This is a list of the circus performers only



LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 14:37

It was definitely 1881

1881 Address: 33, Bulls Head Inn, Sheep Street, Northampton St Sepulchre
DICKENS, John Head Married M 40 1841 Licensed Victualler
Northampton
Northamptonshire
DICKENS, Marion Wife Married F 35 1846 Operatic Artist (Painter)
Birmingham
Warwickshire
DICKENS, Arthur Son Single M 18 1863 Pianist (Musician)
Glasgow
DICKENS, Emily Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Duston
Northamptonshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 14:38

This is young Arthur 1891
Address: 46, Balfern Street, Battersea
DICKENS, Arthur Head Married M 28 1863 House Decorator
Kentish Town
London VIEW
DICKENS, Emily Wife Married F 24 1867
Wardour
Wiltshire VIEW
DICKENS, Arthur James Son M 1 1890
Battersea
Surrey

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 14:40

1871 Address: St James End Green Man, Duston
SABBAGE, William Head M 50 1821 Northamptonshire VIEW
DICKENS, John Head M 56 1815 Northamptonshire VIEW
DICKENS, Ann Wife F 52 1819 Northamptonshire VIEW
DICKENS, Arther Grandson M 8 1863 Scotland

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 12 May 2009 14:50

Need to regroup. Mariann's mothers name was Dickinson. Her father's name was Alfred. He was the son of George. I think I need to establish siblings for Alfred and a wife for George prior to 1881. That will take care of the names. Marriage/birth certificates I would suggest.

I have just spent a very unfruitful hour searching for a marriage in several other states in Australia. I had made the assumption that because they arrived in and settled in one place they may have been married there. That was really dumb because the ship they travelled on (on separate dates!!) docked at other ports before arriving at their embarkation point. You can fill in the scenario yourself. However, like most ideas it turned out to be incorrect. So back to the drawing board. And this time it really is goodnight.

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 May 2009 15:02

Nite, see you tomorrow

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:04

reference

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
DICKINSON Elizabeth Edmonton 3a 351
KIMBERLEY Alfred George Edmonton 3a 351

I cannot find Elizabeth in 1881



LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:06

sleep well!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:15

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Kimberley Beatrice Ada M Doncaster 9c 721

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:19

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Kimberley Florence Elsie M Huddersfield 9a 333

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:23

no still no 1891

could they have been touring?

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 May 2009 15:27

Christine, let's plod on while she's asleep on the other side of the world -

Marriage of Elizabeth Dickinson's parents?

Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
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Dickinson William Marylebone 1a 829
Whitney Marianne Marylebone 1a 829

(note 'Marianne')

Birth of Elizabeth -


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Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
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DICKINSON Elizabeth Shrewsbury 6a 599

1861 census -

1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Dickinson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Marianne
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Shrewsbury
Sub-registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
George Whitley 61 (Chemist)
Elizabeth Whitley 61
Elizabeth Whitley 28
Catherine Whitley 27
Emma Whitley 25
Marianne Dickinson 24
Elizabeth Dickinson 1 *************
Catherine Dickinson 2 Mo (another daughter)
(these below are either apprentice chemists or servants)
Walter Payne 26
William Jone 19
Charles Garnold 16
Elizabeth Morris 30
Ellen Simmonds 10
Ann Lewis 19
Thomas Bowdler 31
Mary Bowdler 65
George R Bowdler 24
Mary Ann Catorn 11
Jane Elizh Catorn 9
Marid Lloyd 15

1871 census -

1871 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Dickinson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William (said to be an Agent) ?
Mother's Name: Mary Anne
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury
Civil Parish: Edgbaston
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Edgbaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
William Dickinson 41
Mary Anne Dickinson 31
Elizabeth Dickinson 11
Catherine M Dickinson 9
George W Dickinson 7
Walter Dickinson 3
Ada Dickinson 12 months
(these are servants)
Charlotte Walker 53
Jane Hall 15





Choccy

Choccy Report 12 May 2009 15:29

Now to try and find Alfred prior to his marriage to Elizabeth

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:33

Is that the right birth? You have it as Wandsworth.

Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)

CHAPMAN Charles Edwin Wandsworth 1d 1102
DIXON Sidney Wandsworth 1d 1102
KIMBERLEY Florence Elsie M Wandsworth 1d 1102
PLANT Mary Ann Wandsworth 1d 1102

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:40

Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
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DICKINSON Elizabeth Shrewsbury 6a 599

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 May 2009 15:40

You've lost me. ? Wandsworth. Elizabeth Dickinson, Mariann's mother, was born in Shrewsbury wasn't she?

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 May 2009 15:43

Think this is Alfred Kimberley, a scholar, 'boarding' at the age of 4 years! Perhaps the family were 'on tour' ...

1861 England Census
Name: Alfred Kimberly
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Phillips 76
Mary Phillips 70
Alfred Phillips 31
Emma Roberts 14
**********************Alfred Kimberly 4
John Hanmrouth 30
Mary Ann Hanmrouth 30

Hopefully he'll be with his family on the next census, so that we can see if he had any siblings.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:45

1901 Address: 81, Grant Road, Battersea
KIMBERLEY, Alfred G Head Married M 44 1857 Comedian
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire
KIMBERLEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1860
Shresbury
Salop
KIMBERLEY, Beatrice A M Daughter F 15 1886 General Servant
Doncaster
Yorkshire
KIMBERLEY, Florence E M Daughter F 12 1889
Hudderfield
Yorkshire
KIMBERLEY, Ada Katherine Daughter F 3 1898
Battersea
London

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Kimberley Florence Elsie M Huddersfield 9a 333

It is the right birth not Wandsworth

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 May 2009 15:47

Aha, in Scotland - bit of a nuisance - only transcribed information

1871 Scotland Census
Name: Alfred Kimberly
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: George (born Binnington, Warwickshire) 1834
Mother's Name: Annie (born Cheltenham, Glos) 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Glostershire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: Blythswood
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: No 163 Coweaddens St 1st Front Land
Occupation: Equesterian (cirem) ******************long term occupation
ED: 52
Household schedule number: 57
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1871_134
Household Members: Name Age
George Kimberly 37
Annie Kimberly 36
Alfred Kimberly 14
Edward Knight 8 - equestrian scholar
Henrie Permane 5 - equestrian scholar

Doesn't look like there are any siblings

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 May 2009 15:51

Hello Choccy

You posted things in between while I was still thinking. I was considering Florence. She has her as born Wandsworth.

Good census finds though Choccy. (MMM love the name)