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lost relative - still looking

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Cynthia Report 25 Jun 2010 15:28

Dear Miss Gaslight, such wonderful news for you! I do hope that you are able to find William's brother Norman. If you get stuck, there are some very able researchers on this site who will be able to help you. However, some do live in outlandish places and may not be au fait with English history.

Dear Robert, as I have stated before, the helpers on this site are not related to you...for which you may be eternally grateful.

Although I am not as skilful as other helpers on this site, I have made an effort and wondered if this gentleman is part of the family Tracey has been looking for?

Marriages Mar 1839 (>99%)

SPECKS Benjamin Liverpool 20 251

If I can be of any further assistance, please let me know.



SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jun 2010 21:46

could there be any connection between your Haystack/Hayhead with my Jack Grass from Lancashire?

I've been looking for him for the last 30 years, and I know that I have searched everywhere, because I am a very experienced and competent researcher.

He was born in Leeds and lived in Scarborough

yours in anticipation


JaneyCanuck Report 25 Jun 2010 22:09

Green Fields is my ancestor and Jack Grass is his nephew from Northamptonshire, not Lancashire. If you were as smart as you all think you are you would have figured that out, it's what you're paid for, but I had to do it myself, now open your tree.


Cynthia Report 25 Jun 2010 22:16

Dear Sylvia, as an experienced researcher, I am surprised that you have not searched further afield for your Grass family. Have you checked the following for suitability?

Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
Sedge John H Hollingbourn 2a 579

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Marsh Jack Bolton 8c 382

Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
Rye Jack Rotherham 9c 717

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Lawn Jack Read Mutford 4a 2189

Indeed, have you thought of looking at some of the Grass family who may have married into a foreign family?

Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
PRAIRIE Sarah Jane Lambeth 1D 419

You may need to continue searching through the Rushes.

I could find no reference to the Marijuana family.

I am very impressed by the fact that you have been researching for over 30 years and can only come to the conclusion that you were a child prodigy.

Happy hunting.


Cynthia Report 25 Jun 2010 22:22

Dear Miss Canuck, as I have said many times before, we are not related and so we do not need to share trees.

Do I need to go through the whole process with you again as you seem to be clicking on every button on the site?

Now, watch my lips.


JaneyCanuck Report 25 Jun 2010 22:49

The Rushlands are MY family! They are related to Green Fields and his illegitimate nephew Jack Straw only by marriage so don't think you will get all the names from me to put on your tree.


JaneyCanuck Report 25 Jun 2010 22:52

Everyone knows that the Marijuana family changed their names when they arrived in England. No wonder that Sylvia person can't find her ancestors. They continued to use their former surname as given names down the line.

Births Sep 1886
Grass Mary Jane Barton I. 8c 600
Marriages Jun 1909
GRASS Mary Jane Barton I 8c 1153

Note that this was when they moved to Lancashire.

Another more disreputable branch moved to London where their main occupation was loitering on the streets.

Marriages Sep 1860
Weed Mary Jane Shoreditch 1c 315
Births Dec 1890
Weed Mary Jane Pancras 1b 33

The founding female member of the clan, born c1798, survived until at least 1871, lying about her birthplace of course, and using an older variant of the surname. She can be found by searching for Sarah S*it born 1798 in Middlesex in the 1871 census at Ancestry. Some of her descendants, putting on airs, retained that surname variant but added an "e" on the end. They may be seen in censuses in Gloucestershire, Yorkshire, Hampshire, Essex, etc. Obviously, theirs was the purest and most potent strain.

I hope you have all learned something.


SylviaInCanada Report 26 Jun 2010 01:43

oh but my Jack Grass could not possibly be related to anyone who loitered on the streets in London

and pray what would be a surname S*it/e????

ever more befuddled


WayneTracey Report 26 Jun 2010 08:40

Hang you lot telling me we are now looking for a Mary Joanna Sh*t/e?



Gins Report 26 Jun 2010 08:50

OK, I take your point Cyn about my hair dryer but my husband still needs help looking for Fanny?

Please get your finger out its what I pay for my subs for


Cynthia Report 26 Jun 2010 08:51

Indeed we are Wayne Tracey. Often these symbols are used to denote missing or queried letters. For example: Her name may be Mary Joanna Shut/e a distant relative of the famed author Neville.


WayneTracey Report 26 Jun 2010 08:51

I should image if he can't find fanny at his age it's time to give up?

T x



Cynthia Report 26 Jun 2010 08:56

It may be that he needs to concentrate his search more.

Quite often these nicknames derive from a more serious form and in this case he should look under....



WayneTracey Report 26 Jun 2010 08:59

He might want to also look in the yellow pages?

Or simply under the bed?

T x


Cynthia Report 26 Jun 2010 11:36

We often advise people to check electoral rolls also. In this case, I would suggest he try looking for Specsavers first of all.


WayneTracey Report 26 Jun 2010 13:34

OMG, there are Specsavers on the ER....

Imagine that, they name a family after a weird?

T x


SylviaInCanada Report 27 Jun 2010 00:28

no no no

thye were named a fter their ancesteor

William Spcesevett
abt 1813
Newark, Nottinghamshire,
St Sepulchre, Middlesex

the spelling changed over the years

and this might be a member of the same family

All England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869

Southampton, England
14 Aug 1855



JaneyCanuck Report 27 Jun 2010 01:05



This explains much.


BananaNaNa Report 4 Feb 2011 20:13

Must be between 3 and 10,000 characters (what no more n's)


Dea Report 4 Feb 2011 20:19


Are you 'tinkering' again ???

I always loved this thread - nice to see it back again !

Dea Xxx