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Help trying to find info on my grandad

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Kevin

Kevin Report 4 Mar 2013 14:16

I have asked my aunt if her father had any brothers or sisters but she has no idea as no aunts & uncles were mentioned from his side.

Kevin

Kevin Report 3 Mar 2013 13:36

Hi Marie,
As far as I'm aware John Kenneth was an only child but I can ask my aunt who might know.
I'll have to have a look at that thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Mar 2013 12:40

The latest research believes the "Dark Lady" to be Aline Florio (nee Daniel)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/william-shakespeare/9758184/Has-Shakespeares-dark-lady-finally-been-revealed.html

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Mar 2013 11:51

Hello again Paula - this is where it may be necessary to buy some certificates.

Do you know if John Edward and Ada had any more children after John Kenneth? If so you can look their births up on FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk - the mother's maiden name is shown post 1911 and would help verify the 1902 marriage.

Kevin

Kevin Report 3 Mar 2013 11:41

Hi Marie,
I've only got as far back as Richard & Elizabeth.
I just don't know much about the Fitton side at all. I've even asked my mum but she doesn't even know anything :(
All I know about my grandad, John Kenneth Fitton is what I put in the original post. I don't even know when he had the garage on Market Street, Droylsden. So as you can see I haven't much to work with at all I'm afraid. :( :( :(

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Mar 2013 11:30

Paula, I'd be inclined to buy John Edward and Ada's marriage certificate to be 100% sure who his father was, you can then work back with more confidence.

The census posted with Richard and Elizabeth as parents do look strong possibilities but it's up to you whether you want to take that chance.

If they are the correct parents then I think this may be John Edward's baptism:

Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915

Name: John Edward Fitton
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1875
Parish: Rochdale, St Chad
Parish as it Appears: Rochdale
Father's Name: Richard Fitton - Cut Looker
Mother's name: Elizabeth Fitton
Reference Number: L48/1/3/13
Item Number: 3
Archive Roll: 646

They lived Crawford Street.

Baptised the same day was a sibling Mary Ellen.

Kevin

Kevin Report 3 Mar 2013 10:56

Hi, thanks for the info. I'm looking into a possibility that I maybe related to Mary Fitton, the Dark Lady who was One of Shakespeare's Sonnets.
I don't have anybody to ask about this as my dad & his parents are no longer with us. The only remaining members left are my dads sisters & his brother. The eldest is to ill to ask & the others are to young to know as I've already tried & they don't know anything.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank you
Paula

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Mar 2013 23:18

1911

Name: John Kennth Fitton
Age in 1911: 6/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Civil parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 52 Kenyon St Alley Hey Gorton
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 98
Piece: 23799
Household Members: Name Age
John Edward Fitton 35 Tailor's Presser, b. Rochdale
Ada Fitton 33 b. Bradford
John Kennth Fitton 6/12

Married 9 years, 2 children born, 1 living and 1 had died.

So the marriage posted looks to be correct.



Have you tried looking on Freebmd for possible deaths for John Edward and Ada?

As Reggie says, have you done any further research on this family? There is not point to people searching for information that you have probably found since your first post.

Can you be more specific please on what information you are now seeking? Thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2013 23:04

1911 census

Person: FITTON, John Kenneth Address: 53 Kenyon St Gorton Manchester

FITTON, John Edward Head Married M 35 1876 Tailors Presser Rochdale Lancs VIEW
FITTON, Ada Wife Married9 years F 33 1878 Bradford Lancs VIEW
FITTON, John Kenneth Son M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2013 23:01

What is the point of 'bumping' this thread?

What else do you want?

Have you done ANY research yourself since 2009?

Kevin

Kevin Report 2 Mar 2013 22:26

Bump.

Kevin

Kevin Report 26 Aug 2009 16:48

Thanks to all those who have replied to my post. The info you have found looks very promising. If anybody comes across anymore info I would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Paula

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:50

poss 1901

Name: Ada Anderson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary E
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: North Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Clayton St Cross
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>6 Colliery St

Occupation:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tailoress

Condition as to marriage:>>>>>>>>>>>>Single

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 298
Household Members: Name Age
John Anderson 46 >>>>>>>>>>>Millwright (cotton works)
Mary E Anderson 53 >>>>>>>>>>Born Ruabon
Ada Anderson 23
Clara Anderson 20 >>>>>>>>>>>Dress maker



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3766; Folio: 89; Page: 56.

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:39

poss birth

Births Dec 1849 (>99%)
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HEALEY Elizabeth Rochdale 21 650


cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:24

poss marriage

Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Butterworth Mary Jane Rochdale 8e 101
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FITTON Richard Rochdale 8e 101
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HEALEY Elizabeth Rochdale 8e 101
MALEN Joseph Rochdale 8e 101
Walmsley Alice Clitheroe 8e 101



poss 1871

Name: Richard Fitton
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Castleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Rochdale >>>>>>>>>>>>>Address : 7 Simon Yard
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Castleton Nearer
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Fitton 22 >>>>>>>>>>>Cotton Operative
Elizabeth Fitton 20
Mary E Fitton 6 months

All born Rochdale


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4119; Folio: 144; Page: 17; GSU roll: 846716.

poss 1881

Name: Richd. Fitton
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Beswick
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 87 Edensor Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cotton Cut Looker

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richd. Fitton 32
Elizth. Fitton 30
John E. Fitton 5
Gertrude Fitton





Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4018; Folio: 72; Page: 20; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341959.



Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:12

poss 1891

Name: John E Fitton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Beswick
Ecclesiastical parish: Beswick and Bradford Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>65 Edenson St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Fitton 41 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tailor's assis, born Rochdale
Elizabeth Fitton 40 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Born Rochdale
John E Fitton 15
Gertrude Fitton 10
Ruth Fitton 7
Elizabeth Fitton 4

Rest born manchester

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3260; Folio 13; Page 19; GSU roll: 6098370.

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:10

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Fitton John Edward Rochdale 8e 13

Cassy

EDIT

poss ( but there are some in L'pool and W Derby )

Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
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ANDERSON Ada Prestwich 8d 388

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:06

poss parents marriage

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>Anderson Ada Chorlton 8c 1493
>>>>>>>>Fitton John Edward Chorlton 8c 1493
Tolchard William Daniel Chorlton 8c 1493
Wheeldon Mary Ann Chorlton 8c 1493

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 24 Aug 2009 18:04

1911

HOUSEHOLD FITTON JOHN KENNETH M 1910 6 MONTHS Chorlton Lancashire

HOUSEHOLD FITTON ADA F 1878 33 Chorlton Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD FITTON JOHN EDWARD M 1876 35 Chorlton Lancashire

specified with John Kenneth in the household

Cassy

Tania

Tania Report 24 Aug 2009 18:04

Births Dec 1910 (>99%)
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FITTON John K Chorlton 8c 73[65]