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ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 29 Sep 2009 10:00

Hi T,
I am looking for the marriage of either Nellie Maud Gray to George Henry Allen close to 1903.

Or their sons George Gray Allen brn 1903 to Annie Elizabeth Hope brn 1904 father Albert Hope ,mother Alice.Both should be in the Ontario area,

Can you help?

Best wishes....Sam

Dear T forget the second marriage i just found it by typing it in to Google in Carleton Marriages!!

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 12:20

Amber..

These are the marriages of James

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

James Humby 14 Jun 1829 Kezia Hawkins Saint Pancras Parish Church
James Humphrey 30 Jan 1820 Amy Boyd Saint Marylebone
James Humphrey 16 May 1822 Maria Fasse Saint Mary, Newington
James Humphrey 14 Sep 1823 Rachel Simmons Saint Giles, South Mimms
James Humphrey 20 Feb 1826 Sarah Lurcock Saint Olave, Bermondsey
James Humphrey 19 Feb 1826 Sarah Lurcock Saint Olave, Bermondsey
James Humphrey 17 Dec 1826 Ellen Fry Saint James, Clerkenwell

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837

James Humphrey Mary Morris 1818 Holborn St Andrew
Jas Humphrey Mary Hoath 1831 Southwark
Jas Humphrey Mary Curtis 1834 Westminster, Middlesex

Sorry

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 12:24

Sam..

I'm not seeing any marriage between Gray & Allen.. Can you tell me either of their parents names please?

liquidamber¨°o.O

liquidamber¨°o.O Report 29 Sep 2009 12:30

Hi T

Thanks so much for trying, much appreciated.

Amber

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 29 Sep 2009 12:55

T, there is a possible Thomas and Catherine Gray in Ontario,

Sorry i do not know the Allen Chaps parents......Sam

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 13:23

Sam..

Do you have Nellie's aprrox birth year..? How did you get Nellie in the first place?

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 29 Sep 2009 14:48

Hi T

Is it possible to check 1930 census Los Angeles for Mary C Collins/Wells she would be around 43, I have the family in 1920 and she is shown age 33 but a death in 1967 shows a Mary C Wells mothers maiden name Mannion which is correct. Would like to know if its one and the same and when she married.

Hope you can understand above, family went to USA in 1882 from Manchester England.

Thank you
Frances

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 14:57

Here you go Frances :)


1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Mary C Wells
[Mary C Collins]
Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
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Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Name: Joseph
Spouse's Name: Robert E
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert E Wells 50 Indiana - Head
Mary C Wells 43
Mary V Wells 7 California - Daughter
Joseph Collins 74 England - Father in Law

California Birth Index, 1905-1995

Name: Mary V Wells
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1922
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Collins
Birth County: Los Angeles


California Birth Index, 1905-1995

Name: Wells
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1924
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Collins
Birth County: Los Angeles

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 29 Sep 2009 15:03

Wow T how fantastic and quick a million thanks, have been tracing this side for years not knowing that they had gone to USA until recently.

Thanks again.

Frances

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 29 Sep 2009 16:04

Hi T

Can I impose on you again to check any marriages etc for the siblings of Mary C Wells nee Collins.

Annie Collins born 1883c father Joseph mother Catherine nee Mannion

Ernest Collins born 1890 ditto

Franklin J Collins born 1895 ditto

or 1930 census.

Thank you
Frances

jusme

jusme Report 29 Sep 2009 17:25

Hi T,

Might be doing it right this time, new to the Community out of my depth lol

I am trying to find my father's father George Wharram ...

George Wharram has his date of birth as 21/05/1985 there is no Birth Registered for him here in the UK unless he has lied about his date of birth on his Certificates, or maybe he was born in Canada that is why his birth does not show here!

George Wharram enlisted 199th Battalion Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force, he was already in the 55th Irish Canadian Rangers in 1916 in Montreal. stating this date 21/05/1895 as being his date of Birth!!

Have got to find out what he was doing in Montreal and when he arrived there from England

Would appreciate your help.
Thanks

jusme

jusme Report 29 Sep 2009 17:28

Hi T,

Sorry it is me again ... has his date of birth on his certificates as the 21/05/1895 I put 1985 sorry!

Thanks again

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 18:32

Frances.. Where were they born in please?

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 18:32

jusme..

Just replied to your PM :)

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 29 Sep 2009 19:19

Hi T

Sorry, they were born in Blair Pennsylvania I think, info from 1900 census, parents born in England.

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 19:30

Frances..

I presume this was Franklin, living in Los Angeles as well


1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Frank J Collins
Home in 1930: Pasadena, Los Angeles, California
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Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna M
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank J Collins 34
Anna M Collins 29 California - Wife
Noreen Collins 8 California - Daughter
Barbara Collins 1 11/12 California - Daughter

Cant do marriage as it doesnt start until annoyingly 1960!)

California Birth Index, 1905-1995

Name: Noreen Collins
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1921
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Stanger
Birth County: Los Angeles


California Birth Index, 1905-1995

Name: Barbara Anne Collins
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1928
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Stanger
Birth County: Los Angeles

Least you now know what was Frank/lin's wife maiden ;o)

Edward L Collins 20 Feb 1923 Male Stanger Los Angeles
Norma Louise Collins 6 Nov 1926 Male Stanger Los Angeles
Donald Collins 6 Jul 1931 Male Stanger Los Angeles
Ronald Collins 6 Jul 1931 Male Stanger Los Angeles

Last two entries.. No idea if they're twins or 1st letter of the name was wrong.

More to follow now I'll check for others

Eames

Eames Report 29 Sep 2009 19:48

Ernest baffled me.. Either he died before 1940 (Ancestry's Calif starts from that year) or simply vanished. As for Annie, I wouldnt know which is hers as the marriages as I said before doesnt start until 1960.

Sorry

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 29 Sep 2009 19:54

Thank you for all your work T, you deserve a round of applause.

Frances

jusme

jusme Report 29 Sep 2009 20:36

Thanks T,

You are a real Treasure and I mean that!
I am so glad I looked on the Community Records Office Board I have replied to your PM and thanks for getting back to me.

ManfromMars

ManfromMars Report 30 Sep 2009 03:22

Dear T,
Hi sorry not getting back to you earlier.

Nellie Maud Gray to George Henry Allen are the parents of George Gray Allen who married a Annie Elizabeth Hope who is related to me.

On a basic search that i can do there is a Nellie M Gray that comes up without putting her birth year in?

G G Allen and Annie were both born 1904.

Best wishes...Sam