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Hi Maureen.

I know it's not good for my health!!

The more i think about it, i am not yet sure if this is the correct relation, my head is spinning, i am not sure when the cert's will arrive.

I am trying to look at other relations in my tree but keeping comming back to this.

Regards Simon.

How many people are holding their breath with you now,Simon?!

Best,
Maureen

I have to say I admire your determination! Hold on, the certs will be here soon!

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Just to update you all, i have been in contact with Eda Whittakers Great Grand Daughter, she has no info on Eda and could not find, she is waiting as we are for the cert's to come.

Also i have had contact from William Reids family and they are all waiting!

The pressure is on me now.

Dea, Ginny, Barbara, Maureen hope you are well, speak soon Simon.

Hi.

Just to say don't worry about John Rochford and John Donley's war records.

I have them.

Simon.

Good morning.

As you can see i have this thread going on Frances Donley / John Rochford.

I want to also find out about boar war info on John Rochford and ww1 info on John Donley.

Question is do i start a new thread on this subject or keep it within this thread.

I do not want to undermind the VERY HARD WORK everyone has done Dea, Moureen, Ginny and Barbara, on this thread for me as they are working so hard on my behalf.

Thank you Simon Holland.

Hi Ginny.

Spooky!!

Remember John Rochford in this thread married Frances Donley, well later on around 1905/6 ish he worked at The Thomas Ward firm in Sheffield and lived in one of the company houses.

So John Rochford worked with his wifes brother John Donley maybe!.

Thank you Ginny, this is really good stuff.

Simon.

No Simon, sorry I may have confused you. 'Carter' was his occupation before joining up!

He was a driver of some sort in the army, because I can see he had training to do this

just a note;

The Thomas Ward firm in Sheffield at the time of WW1 had to draft in circus elephants to transport their goods as the horses were used for the war!

A carter is what Dea told you; this could mean they did the job of horses (on a smaller scale of course) or they could be selling wares out of a cart


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I remember it i think!.

Who said it.

Simon xx

As they say Simon,

When I am good I am very very good but when I am bad I am wicked !!!!!!

(Apologies if you are of the wrong generation to remember that) !!

Speak soon,

Dea x

Hi Dea,

Your good, i was looking on the net and all i got was Mr carter!

Well he pushed stuff about, not really front line combat is it!, none of my famliy was front line due to the steel industry apart from oh no dare i say it, Frances husband John Rochford who reportedly lost his arm in the boar war, so he told my mum but i can't find that out and i have tried.

Your good Dea.

Simon x

Carter = Carrier of goods by wagon

Dea x

Thank you Ginny,

I thought he must have gone in the Army!! i did'nt think he would have been a officer, ! Carter!, need to find out what a carter did and how long he stayed enlisted.

Thank you again this is great.

Simonxx

Hi Dea,

"Thights" i don't know what i was thinking about then!!
Should say thoughts!

I was just wondering what John went on to do, WW1 Carter, i need to find out what a carter was, i think it will be something to do with the steel industry transporting as most of the Sheffield men stayed at home as they were needed in the Steel works, it will be good to find out.

I know i can't wait, and i keep telling my kids that Christmas will come when it comes!

Simon x.

Hi Simon,

I KNOW it is hard but let's just wait for the certs?

We can get back on the case then.

You say in your last post:

I think the box of Choc's needs to change any thights!!

..........

I haven't got any "thights" but the 'virtual' choccs will do just O.K.

Dea Xxx

P.S. - We will get there in the end !!!!!!!!

Dea x

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about John Donley
Name: John Donley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Age at Enlistment: 20
Birth Parish: St Peter
Birth County: York
Document Year: 1902
Number of Images: 7

Occupation: carter

This is a Sheffield address

2 Court 1 house Water St,,,,same address for 1901 census so its defo him

i'll have a look for parents etc and post back in a minute. Theres no other details really except that he was 20yrs and 8mths old

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Hi Ginny,

Thank you no Leeds is close but still not sure, i will keep an open mind !

Also Ginny, thank you for the note from this morning regarding Step-sister, makes me feel better!

Simon x.

Theres this but it's Leeds which is about 38 miles north of Sheffield


Deaths Mar 1924 (>99%)
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Donley John 42 Leeds 9b 772


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Hi Every one.

Just going off at an angle here, but i don't want to start a new thread!!

From what we have found about Frances she had a brother John Donley born Sep 1881 9c / 406 Sheffield, i know we have him in the thread living with his mother Sarah!! at 20 years old, what i can't find is a marriage or a death, can anyone be so kind as to see if he joined the services as it was comming upto ww1.
Thank you very much, i hope this thread is not boaring you all and you don't think i am rude to ask for more help.

I think the box of Choc's needs to change any thights!!

Simon xx

Simon

I havent time to read through this thread at the moment but just something to think about

sister in law and brother in law were sometimes a term used for 'step' children.

Not knowing how old she was (Im sure its here in thread somewhere!) I cant comment but thought I'd post this before going to work

Ginny
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