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Francis Donley born 1884 Sheffiled

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Dea

Dea Report 14 Nov 2009 12:14

Hi Simon,

Just wanted to be the one to post 'reply no 100' on your thread - Congrats !!

Anyway, I have printed off all the pages and am going through it looking to see what loose ends we now need to tie up.

Speak soon,

Dea x

Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 12:21

Hi Dea,

thank you for your help.

I seem to have a better picture now, but i can't find the marriage for WTW and Sarah Lord, it does look like the same Sarah Lord all the way with Eda and Frances, which is a possertive.

Oh and i can't find a Sarah Lord or Whittaker to John Donley unless the Donley on John is spelt differently!!.

Thank you for helping i could not do all this on my own.

Simon.

100 that is a long thread don't you think!

Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 12:47

Dea.

Just looking at the address at Chadderton road on the cert it does say something under but can't make it out.

Simon.

Dea

Dea Report 14 Nov 2009 13:21

103 now Simon - Not bad going eh ??

I will keep a look out for the marriages for you and get back if I find anything.

Re the cert and something you cannot read on there! - Are you able to scan it into your computer and e-mail me a copy? - I could then take a look for you.

Dea x

P.S. - Wierdly, - had she lived that long, your Eda would have been celebrating her 100th birthday on the very day my son was born !! - 17th April, 1974.

Dea x

Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 13:50

Hi Dea.

Sorry no scanner. i can fax though.

Simon.

Dea

Dea Report 14 Nov 2009 14:01

Durrhhh !! - You have 'floored me now Simon - I am not very technical and my husband is out getting soaked on the golf course !! (tee hee - serves him right!).

Anyway, yes, I believe I do have a fax facility set up so I will pm you my fax number and we will see how we get on?

Dea x

Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 15:30

THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS THREAD! I HOPE.

This is just to update and thank all the people that have given up so much time to get to the stage below. i will be continuing this thread as so much more of the following families are involved and can be found, DONLEY / WHITTAKER / ROCHFORD / REID.

Please see below.

Frances Donley and Eda Whittaker were step sisters born to the same mother Sarah Whittaker nee Lord / Sarah Donley nee Lord, Sarah was my Great Great Grandmother and was born around 1851 in Bacup, Lancashire

Eda Whittaker my Half Great Grandmother was born on 17th April 1874, in Oldham Below Town, Oldham, 1 Court, Chadderton Road, father Whittaker Thorpe Whittaker,he was an Iron Turner, mother Sarah Whittaker nee Lord.

Frances Donley my Great Grandmother was born 17th August 1883, in Sheffield, 53 Snow Lane, father John Donley, he was a tailor journeyman, he lived with Sarah and Eda before they came to Sheffield. mother Sarah Donley nee Lord.

We have not yet found any marriage for Sarah to any of the above, following the path over the last few months we found all this, i got all the birth and marriage certs as i wanted to be confident i was correct, they underpin our findings, even down to Sarah Donley been at the marriage of Eda and William Reid.

Frances went on to marry John Rochford who was from Sligo in Ireland, they married in sheffield in 1905, they had eight children one of them was my Grandmother who died 2002, she always said that Sarah had been married before, she was right, one of France's other daughters is still living, i have not been able to tell her all about this as she is really ill, we hope we can let her know before it's too late.

I hope this will coninue Regards Simon.

Yes i know i can't type and spell at the same time, it's a man thing!!!

Barbara

Barbara Report 14 Nov 2009 18:23

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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WHITAKER THORPE WHITAKER Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 02 NOV 1836

Christening: 08 JAN 1837 Newchurch In Rossendale, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES WHITAKER Family
Mother: AMELIA


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 18:31

Good Evening barbara.

Thank you, that looks like the chap, as i put him at around 35 when Eda was born, and i can't imagine another WTW.

I wonder if we can track him, i am sure i did find a WW married to a betty Lord but not a Sarah.

Hope you are well.

Regards Simon.

Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 18:40

Hello to All.

I have found WTW on the 1871 census living with Betty and daughter Amelia, she must be named after her mother, i will see what i can find 1881.

Dea

Dea Report 14 Nov 2009 18:47

Going off lin now but did this relate to who you are looking for?

Birth:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

WHITTAKER Amelia Oldham Below Town Oldham mmn....TETLOW OBT/74/270

Dea x

Have more info, if needed, for the morning.

Dea x

Simon

Simon Report 14 Nov 2009 18:49

Hi Dea, i think that is Amelia the daughter of WTW and Betty Thorpe.

Simon x

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Nov 2009 16:49

TETLOW not Thorpe.
Don't ask me.

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Nov 2009 17:22

Just to refresh our memories:
1871 Ancestry
Name: Whttaker Thorp Whittiker
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4100; Folio: 98; Page: 15
Look at the neighbours-William LORD and family.

Maureen

Simon

Simon Report 15 Nov 2009 17:45

Evening Maureen,

How are you, yes i noticed next door yesterday, If we end up not finding a marriage, i think the link is Betty! not sure why, i just get a feeling!, i am sure on one search i did Betty or Elizabeth was a Lord!! i can't find it again though!

Thank you for keeping on the trail, it's very kind.

Simon x

Barbara

Barbara Report 15 Nov 2009 18:04

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1870 (>99%)
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Calderbank Jabez Bury 8c 530
HUNT Elizabeth Jane Bury 8c 530
LORD Elizabeth Bury 8c 530
Whittaker Whittaker Bury 8c 530


Simon

Simon Report 15 Nov 2009 18:16

Hi Barbara.

Thank you.

Yes thats the one, but i think now someone i think Dea had said she was matched with Calderbank.

Also just gone back and noticed on page 4 of this thread June found a Louise born to parents Whittaker Thorpe Whittake and Sarah Whittaker, at that stage it never clicked, this must be them, i can't imagine another W THORPE W.

This may be a good one to trace backwardsand forward, "can anyone help" me with this please.

Kind regards Simon.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Nov 2009 21:38

1871 Ancestry
Name: Elizabeth Calderbank
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jabez
Gender: Female
Where born: Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Tottington Lower End
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Ramsbottom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Holcombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthias Wilkinson 49
Ann Wilkinson 55
Minnie E Lord 3
Jabez Calderbank 28
Elizabeth Calderbank 28
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3946; Folio: 69; Page: 12


Is the surname LORD in Lancs just as common as SMITH ???

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Nov 2009 21:40

I looked for Lou* the other day. Got nowhere. Fast.
Maureen

Simon

Simon Report 17 Nov 2009 07:52

Hi Maureen.

Yes i think you are correct, Lord seems vey a very common name in Lancashire around the mid 1800's.

I also could not find any more info on the WTW ? Sarah and Louisa.

the thread seems to be going a little cold with info on WTW and Sarah, without finding a marriage it will be hard.

Regards Simon.