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WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 13:55

Brother George's marriage...

Name: George Philip Walden
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Spouse Name: Louisa Oliver
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Sep 1904
Parish: Saint Alban, Fulham
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Walter Walden
Spouse Father Name: Herbert Oliver

Both living at 17 Chelmesford Street.

and Walter Levi Walden & Sarah Wilson are the witness's.....


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:02

George & Louisa's child

Name: George Walden
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 17 Jul 1906
Father's Name: George Philip Walden
Mother's Name: Louisa Walden
Parish: Saint Alban, Fulham
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
County: Middlesex

Living at 10 Chelmesford Street, father a wood chopper.

DoB: 11 Oct 1905


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:07

Brother George in 1911.... who's the Aunt?

WALDEN, George Head Married M 25 1886 Labourer Fulham London
WALDEN, Louisa Wife Married 7 years F 23 1888 Fulham London
WALDEN, George Son M 6 1905 School Fulham London
FISHER, Priscilla Aunt, Widow F 54 1857 Housekeeper Nework Folks

RG number:RG14 Piece:293 Reference:RG14PN293 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED27 SN248

Address: 41 Crefeld Road Fulham W County: London


Tracey x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 14:10

From earlier census, I think that Georgina and Walter were the youngest of several children! Walter must be elsewhere on this one.

1871

Name: George P Walden
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Edey
Gender: Male
Where born: Wokingham, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members: Name Age
George P Walden 49 Basket Maker
Edey Walden 48
Emma R Walden 18
Ann Walden 16
William Walden 12
Georgina Walden 7
Marget Hughes 63 Lodger

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 70; Folio: 18; Page: 28; GSU roll: 824578.

1861

Name: George P Walden
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ewy
Gender: Male
Where born: Wokingham, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
George P Walden 40 Basket Maker
Ewy Walden 39
Emmanuel Walden 13
George Walden 11
Emma Walden 9
Ann Walden 6
William Walden 3
Alfred Walden 2 Mo
Ann Dolity 79 Lodger
Elizabeth Jeffrieson 79 Lodger

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 28; Folio: 103; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542559.



WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:12

OOoooh nice find!

I'll see if i can find any baptisms to go with the list lol

EDIT: Nope just those 2....

T xx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 14:17

Sorry Colin - I know that it is moving away a bit from your original query but I am just trying to get the family clear in my head.

It looks like George the builder is a son of George the Basketmaker and therefore a brother of Walter (Senior) and Uncle to Walter that went to Australia - I think! (She Chuckles!)

I think you are up against a Scottish problem here in that all brothers name sons for their fathers and daughters for their mothers!! And the fact that your family pretty well stayed in the same are when they married..........



EDIT

There are 4 pages of Waldens in Fulham on the 1911 census!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:19

Colin

Have you got a tree on Ancestry with these people on? This data is on someone's tree, maybe indicating they never returned?

Charles William Walden
Birth 18 oct 1911 in north fremantle
Death 30 nov 1946 in perth w.a. aus

Parents, Walter Levi Walden & Sarah Wilson....

This would suggest they never came home?


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:21

To add to my last thread, Sarah died in Aus.

Sarah Wilson.
Birth 8 oct 1884 in hammersmith london eng
Death 7 may 1949 in maylands w.a. aus

No other data on Walter Levi Walden, did he leave her behind and come home alone?

Tracey x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 14:25

Interestingly - when you search for births for Walter L* Walden on freeBMD, this is what you get.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1866 (>99%)
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WALDEN Walter L Kensington 1a 192


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
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WALDEN Walter L Staten Wrexham 11b 520



And for marriages

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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WALDEN Walter Levi Fulham 1a 502

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Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Walden Walter Levi Fulham 1a 473


Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Walden Walter L Cox Fulham 1a 697




I wonder if "Levi" was sometimes just added on??

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 14:28

Tracey - I think it is back to the comments on the other thread about the 1916 marriage to Annie A Cox! I think Colin needs to buy both those marriage certificates for Walter Levi Walden.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 14:30

Tracey - I've nudged the other thread for you.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:33

Thanks Root i'll take a look..... i didn't realise there were 2 threads!

Grrr....

I know there is another Walter L Walden floating about, different father, i'll see if i can dig the baptism out.

once again Grrr


T xx

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 14:38

Hmmm

Another tree has this...

Madge Jane Walden
Birth 1914 in perth Western Australia
Death in maylands

Parents Walter Levi Walden & Sarah Wilson.... so they were there in 1914 still!


Tracey x

Colin

Colin Report 22 Nov 2009 14:46

I think you have all been wonderful. I will try to put it into perspective, Geo P the builder 1820 had 7 children this is not important. Walter levi Walden 1866 was in that generation and he and ellen strong had 6 children the first of these was Walter levi Walden 1884 the man in question. He married sarah wilson in fulham 1904 Another Walter levi 1905 1906 a James 1908 1909 and Sidney 1909 1910 who died enroute to Fremantle Aus. were born and died. Sarah and her infant were shown on a passenger list in 1910 but no sign of Walter. However he made it to perth Aus. because the first surviving child my father chas wm weeks was born in 1911 Forget the surname which is the one I also incorrectly carry because Chas Wm's birth cert shows walter and sarah together and we should carry the Walden name The next child is a guess but I am sure that madge Jane Weeks was also a Walden B. in 1914. Now for some reason Walter decided to return to fulham. My best guess is it would be any time from mid 1914 but in time to marry annie Cox in 1916. There you have it ; a potted history of Walters life and he is still in his ealy 30's. I hope this makes sense and you can understand why I am trying to track his movements. Questions about the marriage to sarah and whether a divorce was ever obtained are questions to be answered..Although she lived with Tom Weeks they did not marry until 1940 I hope this helps.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 14:50

I think the descendants of George P. (the basket weaver) may have produced more than 1 Walter Walden. So really without buying the certificates you wouldn't know which one belongs to which branch!

If Walter was still in Australia in 1914 it is unlikely that the 1916 marriage in Fulham is his remarriage!

Colin

Colin Report 22 Nov 2009 15:40

Ive just reread rootgatherers 1911 census which appears a little muddled. However it looks like Walter 1866 and ellen's house with their sons james and alf.
What worries me is the reference to Walter 1885 and Alice F Walden who don't fit into the picture. Is it Walter Levi 1883/4 back temporarily from Aus, and if so who isAlice F Walden?
Are they another family line visiting? Or does Walter levi 1883/4 work on a boat that gives him access to england and australia. Theres more questions than answers at the moment and its nearly midnight here. I,m going to bed Bye for now

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 22 Nov 2009 16:18

I think Root may have confused you there a little, they are not all in the same household!

Like it has been suggested before there are more than 1 Walter Walden floating about!!!!

WALDEN, Walter Head Married6 years M 26 1885 General Labourer Parish Fulham
WALDEN, Alice Wife Married F 25 1886 Parish Fulham
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RG number:RG14 Piece:331 Reference:RG14PN331 RG78PN10 RD3 SD4 ED28 SN429

Address:65 Heckfield Place Fulham S W County:London
______________________________


and the second household!

WALDEN, Walter Head Married27 years M 45 1866 Wood Sawyer Parish Fulham
WALDEN, Ealain Wife Married F 45 1866 Parish Fulham
WALDEN, James Son M 14 1897 Parish Fulham
WALDEN, Alfred Son M 12 1899 Parish Fulham
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RG number:RG14 Piece:296 Reference:RG14PN296 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED30 SN19

Address:17 Chelmsford St Fulham County:London

Tracey x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2009 21:02

Looks like that Walter either wasn't married to Alice or they married elsewhere! This is the only Walter / Alice marrige between 1900 and 1910!

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Walden Walter W Bristol 6a 395

Colin

Colin Report 23 Nov 2009 15:58

Then they must have been very good friends. ....col

Colin

Colin Report 24 Nov 2009 01:48

Tracey,
There are two more additions to the marriage of Walter Levi Walden and Annie Cox.since i opened my tree to you.
I don't know the geography but the new additions are in Foleshill after 3 children in Wokingham.Does this mean they have moved house.
The additions are
Francis W Walden b. Mar Q 1923 see 6d 1146, and
Denis Walden b. Jun Q 1925 see 6d 1128.
I have just found francis died in Coventry Sep Q 1928 see 6d 540 His children drop like leaves on a tree in autumn