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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Nov 2009 15:39

Or perhaps he left because she had found someone else! His wife married the Mr Weeks, did she not?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Nov 2009 15:41

Yes they witnessed each others marriages too.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Nov 2009 15:44

Yip! Here it is from one of the other threads.


The move of walter to Perth in Western Australia happened and thats why I am here today as the grandson of Walter and Sarah.
However he (Walt) must have returned to his roots in Fulham as the next chapter in his life is marriage to Annie Cox.
I can't find any divorce papers here in Australia and Sarah only remarried officially in 1940 to her long term defacto husband Thomas Weeks..



So it looks like she just lived with Mr Weeks as his common law wife until she heard that Walter had popped his clogs.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Nov 2009 15:47

Colin

We can go on and on forever on this! Go on please, please, put us out of our misery and buy the ***** marriage certificate!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 25 Nov 2009 15:57

Root

Have you looked at the length of service? 61 days!

Thats some going! I wonder if he did what he could to get out of it?

EDIT
Errrr. there's 2 regiment numbers for him, and 2 diff years of birth?

Hmmmm need to look further!



Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 25 Nov 2009 16:01

His first service was from 13 Aug 1914 to Mid Oct, the second one starts 10 Nov 1914!!

Hmm....

Tracey x

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Nov 2009 16:04

root Colins tree has been on A*** since 2006 so no hurry !

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Nov 2009 16:10

What can I say Lindsey? The Australians must watch their pennies more than the Scots! In 3 years, I could have picked up more than enough coppers discarded in the street to pay for the certificate!!!!!!!!

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Nov 2009 16:11

I've lost more than that on the lottery !

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Nov 2009 16:30

unfortunately no date WA BMD

WEEKS MADGE J Female PERTH 2022 1914

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 25 Nov 2009 16:35

Given the fact he enlisted in Aug 1914 and the boat journey back from Aus would have been a loooooong one, i do wonder if the wife had already moved on?

Stress of losing children etc, maybe she seperated from him having found herself pregnant by Mr Weeks and the Walter simply came home?


Tracey x

Colin

Colin Report 26 Nov 2009 00:27

I am surprised and delighted that this thread is continuing despite the jibes about canny scots and aussie. Hey thats racist.
Never mind I will have ordered the 1916 marriage cert next week unless any one knows how to get the information immediately(and pay for it) on line so I dont have to wait for snail mail.
Its interesting news to me that Walters father may have travelled to Aus.and that Walts mother Ellen died in 1911. I doubt that would have brought him home at that time as travel time would have him back long after funeral arrangements had finished.
What is important is the two periods of enlistment in 1914 and the hospital info.
Tying these together shows first period of enlistment 13th aug 1914 to mid october then a gap of one month which was the same time frame as the hospitalisation period then renlistment on 10th nov. 1914. This fits nicely but even if the hospital period is at a different time because the enlistment dates still allow for him to have fathered Madge Jane Weeks in Aus before retuning to Fulham. Is there a regiment no. for the last enlistment?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 26 Nov 2009 00:44

I'm going to ask you just one question, what is Madges date of birth.

If you answer me I may impart some more Army information, quid pro quo ?

Colin

Colin Report 26 Nov 2009 04:38

Hi Lindsey I will answeryour question first and then give some interesting info I found on trawling the BMD register.
I have verbal information that she was b. in Sept 1914 and an accompanying note that says confirm with registration no. 2022
Her death as Madge Bingham occured on the 18th May 1945 so there is some certainty its after that date. She is interred in Karrakatta cemetry and the record shows
she is the dau of thomas and sarah weeks.
see reg no 1369.
The reason I think that chas my dad and madge are related is to do with resemblance.They were both small in build and stature. About 5 ft 8 in your measurements, their hair was black with tight curls Contrast that with the Weeks clan - they were all well over 6ft and had straight lighter coloured hair with different bone structuring I hope thais helps with your interest about Madge.
Now for the interesting bit . The friend that was mentioned to receive Walters army benefits was shown as Batton but the trawling dug up an alice mary Batten who was born in the Sep Q 1877 in Hackney. Further trawling showed she married a Charles COX in Hackney in the Dec Q 1915. I'm guessing that he is related to Annie A cox who married Walter in Fulham in 1916 The connection is still elusive but were getting close. The Marriage cert. should be the clincher..

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 26 Nov 2009 09:09

Walter has a ship tattooed on each forearm, with the letters

GB EW GF Could they be Initials of his children ?

yes he is short , with black hair etc.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Nov 2009 09:11

Colin

Will you come back to the thread please when you get the certificate? Please share it with us as I am sure that I am not the only one who is curious.

Walter obviously had quite an interesting life and I have enjoyed following this thread.

Good luck, hope the snail mail isn't too slow- well I know it wasn't when I ordered a death certificate from Australian - I had it in my hand in less than 2 weeks!

Colin

Colin Report 26 Nov 2009 09:48

Lindsey, How do you do it. Do you have a photograph? How did you get it?Your a Wiz.
By the way do I get walters new reg. no.?

Colin

Colin Report 26 Nov 2009 10:17

RG Were close to the end but not finished yet.
This saga which is starting to read like a novel has more.
Alice Mary Batten identified as being associated with Walter through the next of kin advice on his army papers seems to have had an infant in the first Q 1915 see 1a 539
She subsequently married in Hackney to Chas Cox in the dec Q 1915 see 1b 1634 and wait for it ..............she died in the same Dec Q 1915 see 1a 340. The twists and turns never end.
RG I will post the info from the marriage cert as soon as I get it. and if we don't correspond further its been great working with you and the others that I have seen as a great team.
.
P.S. for Lindsey
I will work on those letters you have now dangled in front of us like a carrot. Nothing is obvious at the moment.but if I crack it I will let you know. Thanks for your help.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 26 Nov 2009 13:50

these are his identifying marks noted on his army medical

No thank goodness I don't have a photograph! it goes on to describe his ulcerated parts , swollen glands etc and the mercury based treatment, he was prescribed for 6 weeks . This probably means he had had syphilis for a considerable time

I'm not ready to buy into the Alice story without a lot more info!

Colin

Colin Report 26 Nov 2009 21:58

Lindsey
Thanks for that medical information. I remember now that penicillin was not avail;able until the late 1930's so I dont know anything about the mercury treatmet and how effective it was. It also explains the loss of the earlier infants. God knows how my father and his sister survived.
On a lighter note I'm still trying to work out the initials Its not any of the immediate family members so I will look at the ship symbolism and any other connection that comes to mind. tion.
Thanks again for all your help and advice.
..................colin
PS Alices baby carried the name Cox even though they were not then married and the baby died at o yrs .