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Hi Barbara....well then..bad news is I have searched high and low for MR HARDY...and apart from a possible death in Derby (George Hardy born 1866) in 1890..there is no sign..and that includes a very long perusal of Outgoing passenger Lists........I suppose he could be in the prison..but then he ould still be on the Census.....

Good news is that Rose Hannah and her two children did not go in the Workhouse..or at least if they did they were all safe and sound with her parents Frederick and Dorcas Mansfield..and several of her siblings in 1891..at 183 Siddals Road. Saint Peter's Derby........In 1901 the two children May and frederick are still with their grand-father frederick..but Rose hannah has disappeared.............I'm on her trail...!!

Your thoughts would be interesting!


Derek.

Hi Derek

Good to hear that you are on the mend. Would you mind having a look for the following for me please?

George Henry HARDY bn abt 1865 possibly Ahsnourne or Derby (??), christened 26th Feb 1865 St Werberghs Derby

married Rosanna (Rose Hannah or Rose Anna) MANSFIELD (bn Woolwich, Kent) 24th Dec 1887 St Werberghs, Derby

Children - May bn 1888 Derby and Frederick Lionel bn 1st Jan 1890 reg'd Belper District JFM qtr 1890

Rosanna and May seem to have entered the Workhouse at Markeaton prior to Frederick's birth.

My problem is tracing George Henry after the marriage in 1887 - he seems to have disappeared in a puff of pink smoke! I have looked at BMD, IGI, An******y and also passenger lists as there is a family rumour that he emigrated to Australia to work on the railways and died after losing a leg in an accident there. Another variation is that he went to NZ to work on the railways and lost both legs ..... as you can see I don't seem to have a leg to stand on with this one ....

:-D :-D :-D

Any info gratefully received !!

Thank you

Barbara

Hello again Susan.....I'm doing ok thank you...but it will be a while before i'm back playing cricket!! if at all.

Ok..you need to be looking at anywhere in the Stretton en le field,Oakthorpe. Donisthorpe, Measham or Church Gresley area..all close to Ashby..and in either leicestershire or Derbyshire!!!..apart from that its simple!!

Stretton en le Field is essentially in Leciestershire..but across the raod..Oakthorpe is in Derbsyhire..where most of your later Cashmores were....
Your children were baptised at Stretton..children of William and Elizabeth,

Baptism dates as follows:-

Sarah 03.0.802
Richard 22.-1.1804
William 05.12.1805
Mary 22.07.1810
Phillis 05.07.1812
James 02.07.1815

Hannah 10.10.1799 married Thomas Topley 13.10.1823...

more later as I find it.

Derek.

HI Derek....Hope all is well and you have now made a full recovery.

Don't know if Stretton (or Stretton en le field) is in your "patch" ........but if it is could you check for some baptisms and marriages for me ?

Am looking for information on children of William Cashmore and his wife Elizabeth.......possibly Hannah, Sarah, William, Phyliss, Mary and James.

Eldest son John born c1797 baptised Ashby......suspect family settled in Oakthorpe by 1798.

Any additional information about the parents would also be really helpful.

Thanks
Susan :-)

Hello Wendy,,I can't find her in Notts or Derbys..........but you hit me with a long shot....how about this for a long shot....born Germany 1747???????...noreason at all to think it is, but it is the ONLY Ursula Mayor I can find..and it is a German name..that is apart from the baptism of her son John (Major) Newark 25.09.1786.....

Derek.

Hi Derek,

I think this is a long shot but could you check for a christening for a Ursula Major between 1740 and 1770, she had a son in 1786 in Newark and may have married a Solomon Burton in St Mary's Nottingham ( I have yet to look at this marriage) and may be the Ursula Burton buried 13 Dec 1833 St Alkmunds Church Derbyshire or it may be 3 different Ursula's but I cannot find birth or death for her in Nottinghamshire.

Wendy

Hi Derek,

Joseph Stanley married Frances Neal on 1.5.1701 at Dalbury Lees. By the time their 1st child was born the following February they were living in Kirkby-in-Ashfield.
I have a copy of his will written in 1728 -Joseph died in 1735. He was a husbandman. He had the following children:- William 1701, Robert 1703, Margaret 1704-1708, Frances 1706, Joanna 1707, Elizabeth 1708, Joseph 1710, Thomas 1713, (who died), William Dixie 1716 & Thomas 1724- who also died, They were all baptized at either Kirkby or Pinxton. I am puzzled that he called 2 sons William-distinguishing the two by calling the 2nd one William Dixie. I have tried searching for a connection to anyone called Dixie but to no avail. I originally found the marriage on the IGI but it seems to have disappeared off of that site, but it is on Freereg.- Thanks for checking for a settlement cert- I can't think what else to try,
Maureen

Maureen..no apparent removal or settlement orders for Joseph Stanley.

To be honest i can't even find a marriage for him..1701 at either Dalbury or Trusley........who did he marry..and have you any children for him??

Derek.

Hello Derek,

I wonder if, on your next visit to Matlock, you would mind checking to see if there is a settlement certificate for the elusive Joseph Stanley. If, as I suspect, he came from elsewhere, there just might be (with a bit of luck!)
Thanks again

Maureen

Hello Pat......well Josiah Windle was born in Derbyshire, but at this moment i cannot find him........

You say that you have found the family of Dorothy Windle..who allegedly married Josiah Windle??????..............mmmmmmm..you may be wrong....because JOSIAH WINDLE married SARAH BA(D)GELEY at Beeley 13.04.1807.........she appears to have been born at Beeley 25.08.1782..daughter of Thomas and Dorothy.........

The Parish records say Sarah..but are not always totally reliable..so i double checked..and Josiah is actually on the 1841 census at Beeley..an Agricultural labourer born Derbyshire c 1786..married to SARAH with five children:-
Thomas baptised 20.03.1808
Mary baptised 15.04.1810
John baptised 02.05.1813
Elizabeth baptised 09.07.1815
Josiah baptised 22.04.1818..who married a Mary and is well documented later..

Josiah Windle was buried at beeley 24.07.1845..and Sarah Windle..widow of Josiah buried at beeley 14.07.1846...which probably explains why there is so little information about him.

Hope this helps..I would be interested to know where you got Dorothy Bageley from....in the mean time I'll try and find Josiah senior.

Derek.

Thanks Derek,

As I suspected-not from that area! The Joseph born in Derby married a Deborah Barker & was having children after 1700 so that eliminates him! I have wondered if he was from over the border in Staffordshire which isn't too far away. The other Joseph, as you say, would have been too old - especially as my Joseph died in 1735!
Ah well, don't know where else to search for this elusive ancestor!

Thanks again--Maureen

Hello Derek
Thank you for your reply
Hope this is correct I'm new to message boards I'm searching 2 Slater families in Derbyshire.
1) Levi Slater who I've written to you about with extra data last week not sure I did it correctly though.
2) John Slater ch 17/12/1804 at Fenny Bentley son of William and Judy/Judith Meakin - marriage Tissington 14/2/1804. Siblings Thomas 1806, Hannah 1809, Judith 1812, James 1815 and Martha 1818.
Any help/advise is most welcome.
PAT

Hello Derek, hoping you can help. In the 1861 Loughborough census I have Joseph silvester 38 with his wife Priscilla 30 who says she was from Ilkeston in Derbys. I have their marriage cert , [Notts 1855], her father was James Watts, deceased. They were all cordwainers. I wonder if you have any further details on Priscilla and her father. i'd be so grateful for any help
Thanks
Molly

Hello Derek, hoping you can help. In the 1861 Loughborough census I have Joseph silvester 38 with his wife Priscilla 30 who says she was from Ilkeston in Derbys. I have their marriage cert , [Notts 1855], her father was James Watts, deceased. They were all cordwainers. I wonder if you have any further details on Priscilla and her father. i'd be so grateful for any help
Thanks
Molly

Hi derek

I was wondering if you had any records relating to Beeley? My gx? grandfather married there in about 1800 - Josiah Windle to Dorothy Badgeley. Whilst I can trace her family, I am struggling to find anything more about him - ie where born etc so it may be helpful if any of the parish records have any details about him, maybe who was a witness at his wedding etc?

Any help gratefully received.

Pat

Hello June..we have a big problem here........and i don't know why...........two possible reasons..bearing in mind the unreliability of older records........first in the way of Spelling..There is an Eliza Demon..that fits.............and the other is the father's name...........John.......I have more than one Certificate in my own family where the father's name is wrong........I have a perfectly good Eliza Dayman botn 1839 with a father William.............pity you don't know any of her siblings.......

Derek.

Hello Maureen..I have examined both the Trusley and dalbury leas records.and there is no Joseph Stanley...indeed the only JOSEPH STANLEY I have found in the whole of Derbyshire that might fit was baptised at All Saints Derby 16.07.1669...which is in the right area, but would mean he was married age 32....his father was Thomas...............there is an earlier baptism at Wirksworth(1656)..but that would be pushing it.

Derek

Hi Derek,
STILL trying to find the origins of Joseph Stanley! Do you have the database for Trusley & Dalbury Lees? If so, would you mind taking a look to see if there are any Stanley's recorded in that area in the 1600s. On his marriage, in 1701 at Dalbury, Joseph's parish was given as Trusley but I suspect he was from elsewhere so I'm just trying to check as a process of elimination!
Many thanks Maureen

Hello Derek,
I would be very grateful if you could find out anything about Eliza Dayman but she doesn't appear to exist before her marriage!! I'll keep looking on the Notice Board anyway in case you can work your magic once again, and thank you once more for all the info.
Kind regards,
Mags.

Anne..George's parents were Simeon and Ruth..................