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Hello Derek,

I wonder if, on your next visit to Matlock, you would mind checking to see if there is a settlement certificate for the elusive Joseph Stanley. If, as I suspect, he came from elsewhere, there just might be (with a bit of luck!)
Thanks again

Maureen

Hello Pat......well Josiah Windle was born in Derbyshire, but at this moment i cannot find him........

You say that you have found the family of Dorothy Windle..who allegedly married Josiah Windle??????..............mmmmmmm..you may be wrong....because JOSIAH WINDLE married SARAH BA(D)GELEY at Beeley 13.04.1807.........she appears to have been born at Beeley 25.08.1782..daughter of Thomas and Dorothy.........

The Parish records say Sarah..but are not always totally reliable..so i double checked..and Josiah is actually on the 1841 census at Beeley..an Agricultural labourer born Derbyshire c 1786..married to SARAH with five children:-
Thomas baptised 20.03.1808
Mary baptised 15.04.1810
John baptised 02.05.1813
Elizabeth baptised 09.07.1815
Josiah baptised 22.04.1818..who married a Mary and is well documented later..

Josiah Windle was buried at beeley 24.07.1845..and Sarah Windle..widow of Josiah buried at beeley 14.07.1846...which probably explains why there is so little information about him.

Hope this helps..I would be interested to know where you got Dorothy Bageley from....in the mean time I'll try and find Josiah senior.

Derek.

Thanks Derek,

As I suspected-not from that area! The Joseph born in Derby married a Deborah Barker & was having children after 1700 so that eliminates him! I have wondered if he was from over the border in Staffordshire which isn't too far away. The other Joseph, as you say, would have been too old - especially as my Joseph died in 1735!
Ah well, don't know where else to search for this elusive ancestor!

Thanks again--Maureen

Hello Derek
Thank you for your reply
Hope this is correct I'm new to message boards I'm searching 2 Slater families in Derbyshire.
1) Levi Slater who I've written to you about with extra data last week not sure I did it correctly though.
2) John Slater ch 17/12/1804 at Fenny Bentley son of William and Judy/Judith Meakin - marriage Tissington 14/2/1804. Siblings Thomas 1806, Hannah 1809, Judith 1812, James 1815 and Martha 1818.
Any help/advise is most welcome.
PAT

Hello Derek, hoping you can help. In the 1861 Loughborough census I have Joseph silvester 38 with his wife Priscilla 30 who says she was from Ilkeston in Derbys. I have their marriage cert , [Notts 1855], her father was James Watts, deceased. They were all cordwainers. I wonder if you have any further details on Priscilla and her father. i'd be so grateful for any help
Thanks
Molly

Hello Derek, hoping you can help. In the 1861 Loughborough census I have Joseph silvester 38 with his wife Priscilla 30 who says she was from Ilkeston in Derbys. I have their marriage cert , [Notts 1855], her father was James Watts, deceased. They were all cordwainers. I wonder if you have any further details on Priscilla and her father. i'd be so grateful for any help
Thanks
Molly

Hi derek

I was wondering if you had any records relating to Beeley? My gx? grandfather married there in about 1800 - Josiah Windle to Dorothy Badgeley. Whilst I can trace her family, I am struggling to find anything more about him - ie where born etc so it may be helpful if any of the parish records have any details about him, maybe who was a witness at his wedding etc?

Any help gratefully received.

Pat

Hello June..we have a big problem here........and i don't know why...........two possible reasons..bearing in mind the unreliability of older records........first in the way of Spelling..There is an Eliza Demon..that fits.............and the other is the father's name...........John.......I have more than one Certificate in my own family where the father's name is wrong........I have a perfectly good Eliza Dayman botn 1839 with a father William.............pity you don't know any of her siblings.......

Derek.

Hello Maureen..I have examined both the Trusley and dalbury leas records.and there is no Joseph Stanley...indeed the only JOSEPH STANLEY I have found in the whole of Derbyshire that might fit was baptised at All Saints Derby 16.07.1669...which is in the right area, but would mean he was married age 32....his father was Thomas...............there is an earlier baptism at Wirksworth(1656)..but that would be pushing it.

Derek

Hi Derek,
STILL trying to find the origins of Joseph Stanley! Do you have the database for Trusley & Dalbury Lees? If so, would you mind taking a look to see if there are any Stanley's recorded in that area in the 1600s. On his marriage, in 1701 at Dalbury, Joseph's parish was given as Trusley but I suspect he was from elsewhere so I'm just trying to check as a process of elimination!
Many thanks Maureen

Hello Derek,
I would be very grateful if you could find out anything about Eliza Dayman but she doesn't appear to exist before her marriage!! I'll keep looking on the Notice Board anyway in case you can work your magic once again, and thank you once more for all the info.
Kind regards,
Mags.

Anne..George's parents were Simeon and Ruth..................

Hi Derek

Thank you so much for that. That is brilliant. Now I can start looking for information on George Brookes and Sarah Hickton's parents.

Anne

Hello again Anne.here is the news you have been waiting for.......vaguely in chronological order......

THOMAS GOODWIN 1810 a Tape Weaver all his life) Cheadle Staffs..son of RALPH GOODWIN (a Weaver of Cheadle) and Ann Goodwin nee HARRISON..who married 27.08.1810...........

.. married Hannah Brookes at Wirksworth (strictly speaking Middleton by Wirksworth) 22.10.1848..........

but that's not all of it because a look at the 1851 Census shows three children who can't possibly be Hannah's..and the age difference always gets my antenna going for a previous marriage...........and i found it!!

THOMAS GOODWIN (tape Weaver of Cheadle) married ANN BOAM (born 01.12.1812 .daughter of Joseph and Mary) of Youlgreave..they married at Youlgreave 24.12.1832..and had three children:-

Richard 1833..George 1836 both at Youlgreave..and William 1839 at Wirksworth.......

ANN GOODWIN nee Boam then died in 1848 and was buried at Middleton by Wirksworth 19.07.1848 aged 36

THOMAS our renowned Tape Weaver then ,with indecent haste it seems to me..wove his spell upon Hannah Brookes and married her at Wirksworth 22.10.1848..and began immediately to breed a large family.....more of that anon....

So Hannah Brooks born 1826 Middleton by Wirksworth..daughter of GEORGE BROOKS born 28.07.1788 baptised 17.09.1788 a Miner and Sarah nee HICKTON....whom he married 27.12.1821....

The children of Thomas Goodwin and Hannah were as follows.....I only have some of the baptism dates so far...

Mary Ann 11.06.1854 but appears as 8 years old on the 1851..so might have been Anns child...baptism date is correct.
Martha 09.09.1849
Sarah Ann 10.11.1850
James 1857
Harriet 1858.
Annie 1860
Mary 1865
John William 1867
Ada..born Manchester 1872..
and a grandson Thomas George Goodwin born 1880..who i assume is the child of one of the three sons of Thomas and Ann..looks like a bereavement........I can check it out.
Thomas Goodwin died AMJ 1891...
so there you are......quite a saga........enjoy!!


Derek.

Hi Derek

That is amazing for starters. Ican;t believe it. I've been trying for ages and couldnt find anything. Thank you so much.,

Look forward to hearing from you when you find out more.

Anne

I wondered, if you have access to Derbyshire records, perhaps you could help me find Levi Slater’s parents.
Levi was born about 1786 probably in the Derbyshire area. He married Elizabeth Williams born on 14th December 1783, at West Hallam in Derbyshire on 18th December 1806. (I think her parents were William Williams and Elizabeth not sure of her maiden name.)
Levi & Elizabeth had Thomas Ch: 08 NOV 1807 West Hallam, Derby Sarah - Ch: 25 OCT 1809 West Hallam, Derby, James - Christening: 27 DEC 1812 Pinxton, Derby + ? ?.
Elizabeth may have died. Levi MAY have remarried Hannah Burton on 26th November 1827 in Alfreton and had 2 children, Levi and Ruth OR this Levi may be an ‘unrecorded’ son or a cousin. There are GRO death records of 2 Levi Slaters registered at Belper Oct/Dec 1843 and July/Sept 1844 + another Levi Slater at Dudley Staffordshire in 1846 but no ages given, perhaps church records could help.
Any help is really appreciated.
Thanks
Pat

Hello Mags.....glad to have been of some help..anything else you need , just shout.

Derek.

Hello Anne..welcome to my weird and wonderful Derbyshire!

I'm working on this and have found out quite a lot..but in order to not keep you waiting..we have a starting point:_

THOMAS GOODWIN married HANNAH BROOKS at Wirksworth Derbyshire 22.10.1848..and went on to have about eight children with her....but very strangely they seem to have been having children since 1839 or before????? according to the 1851 census..........or was the old goat married before??

He was born c1809 in Cheadle and Hannah was fifteen years younger than he born Middleton by Wirksworth 1826..old goat!!

Thomas died at Wirksworth in the Civil registration District of Belper AMJ 1891 aged 82.

From his marriage record..his father was Ralph a Weaver..and Hannah's father was a Miner in Middleton.

That's as far as i have got...but I'll send you more as i get it.
EDIT 23.33......got it all sorted!! amazing!!..will send details tomorrow.
Derek.

Hello Derek, Mags here. Thank you so much for your reply to my query. I don't know how you did it but you managed to do in about 48 hours what has been frustrating me for several weeks. Needless to say I'm very grateful to you. I apologise for not using the correct method to contact you - it was the first time I had used the notice board - hope I've got it right this time.
You've given me lots of information to work on which will keep me busy for a while,
Regards,
Mags.

Hi Derek

Can you help me please. My great great grandparents were a Thomas and Hannah Goodwinl (nee Brookes). I can not find out any information regarding their parents. I think Thomas was born in Cheadle, Staffordshire in the early 1800's and Hannah I think was born in Middleton, Derbyshire.

Many thanks

Anne