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Derbyshire Parish Records

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Derek Report 26 Oct 2013 18:37

Hello Susan.......I think you can be sure you have the right parents......HANNAH appears to have been the eldest of three children of Thomas and Elizabeth:-

Hannah baptised 20.04.1809
William baptised 13.05.1811
Samuel baptised 11.07.1813.

all at St.Alkmund Derby.........

I have been all through the Derby marriages for the few years either side of 1809..and can find nothing.....Thomas Townshend MAY have been born 30.11.1763 son of St Werbergh.



lilliesnan Report 25 Oct 2013 19:05

Hello Derek.........hope you are enjoying a large scotch on this wet and windy
night !!

Another one for you, if possible.....

Am trying to confirm parents of HANNAH TOWNSHEND who was married to George Jackson in 1829 in Derby. In 1840 in Hope Street, Derby.

May have been born about 1810 in St Peters, Derby ????

Found a baptism on familysearch 1809 at ST ALKMUNDS, DERBY.........PARENTS, THOMAS TOWNSEND & ELIZABETH...........suspect may be right one but not entirely sure. If its is my Hannah, any background on Thomas and Elizabeth would be wonderful.

Many Thanks
Susan :-)


littlelegs Report 21 Oct 2013 23:29

oh silly me

its a good job someone knows what there doing

well off to bed now will keep looking in to see if you can find me anything

thank you for all the help so far

you are a star

take care



Derek Report 21 Oct 2013 23:11

No just wrote 1838 etc..instead of 1738...........tut..tut..


littlelegs Report 21 Oct 2013 23:08

i do mean them derek

why the cough cough have i ask before



Derek Report 21 Oct 2013 21:28

Cough don't by any chance mean the Godfrey and Mary who had Mary baptised at Heath 05.06.1738.....and Elizabeth at North Wingfield 08.01.1748??????



littlelegs Report 21 Oct 2013 16:07

hi me again

could do with a marriage and baptisms please

godfrey tallents married mary unknown
children they had mary 1838 heath and william 1840
then to winfield for elizabeth

looking for any info on godfrey if possible

thank you very much



littlelegs Report 19 Oct 2013 20:26

thanks derek


lilliesnan Report 19 Oct 2013 16:10

Hi Derek

Hope you are well

Did you have any luck in tracing my elusive character William GREATOREX / GREATREX / GREATRIX ?

Susan :-D


Derek Report 17 Oct 2013 01:05

Hello Neil.........Hemmingway/Hemmingray/Hemmingway//appear to be arbitrarily interchangeable........all your players appear spelt pretty well according to what mood you're in........althought Samuel and Ann are hemingray on the 1851.1861.1861 census..and Hemingway on the next three.......a good long record of their marriage which i'm sure you have access to.
Sammuel \hemingway was the son of thomas Hemmingray!! and Mary nee Cudowrth..baptised 11.02.1827............Thomas and mary were married at Duffield 26.12.1825

Samuel Hemmingway married Ann(e) Coope at Heage 14.04.1850.....her younger sister Martha was one of the witnesses.(Civil registration has him as HemingrayAMJ 1850).

Anne/Ann/Hannah Coup/.Coop/ Coope..was baptised18.12.1825 at Heage..daughter of Issac and Hannah nee Storer.who married at Duffield 30.03.1818.........they appear on the 1841 census.....



Derek Report 17 Oct 2013 00:14 suggestion that George Hibbert didn't marry Mary Tallants.........of course he did. xx


Neil Report 16 Oct 2013 23:33

Hi Derek,

Couple of strands I'm looking for, I'm trying find Anne Coope who married Samuel Hemingray of Heage in 1850. Her father is Isaac but struggling to find her before then.

Also, Samuel Hemingray's father is Thomas Hemingray. His wife is Mary, I belive her maiden name may have been Cudworth? Again, struggling to go back any further but possibly this could be where the name derivated from Hemingway??

Any light you can throw would be much appreciated.


littlelegs Report 16 Oct 2013 21:17

thanks derek

so ok if george hibbert didnt marry mary tallents what mary did he marry

there daughter elizabeth who married john selby was baptized 1756 wingfield derby [ the only elizabeth i can find ]

did ambrose and catherine have any more children
thank you



Derek Report 16 Oct 2013 18:25

Hey little Lozza.......I can find no sign of Hephzibah for George Hibbert.I do not rely on Family Search......although there is a Burial of a george hibbert 04.03.1755 in the PR's

I am happy that George Hibbert was baptised 11.08.1730 son of Ambrose and Catherine....not entirly happy that George HIBBARD married Mary TALLANTS 09.07.1752...........but you have to remember that there are two points at least where spellings can vary......the writing odwn in the first place, and any ne of a number of transcriptions....Hibbert/Hibberd/Hibbard seem to be interchangeable even in the same proven family



littlelegs Report 15 Oct 2013 18:31

ok derek

about the hibberts

george hibbert married mary tallents

so who was georges father i dont think it was ambrose hibbert as on familysearch his son george died unless of course they had another george

thank you derek for all the help



littlelegs Report 14 Oct 2013 22:52

hi derek

thank you very much


what about hephzlbah could she be marys sister

i know i am a pain derek

it would be nice if the answer was yes


edit been on familysearch cannot find a marriage for godfrey and mary
so looked for a baptism for godfrey but dont know which one it is

but there is godfrey and mary going way back into the 1600s who had lots of children could these be godfreys parents

please help


Derek Report 14 Oct 2013 20:30

Hello have given me a nightmare!!.........Until, that is,I was able to work out a sort of Chronology that might go back to early 17th century.

The Hibberts/Hibberds/Hibbards..are easy..and I have researched them till I'm blue in the face...three different enquiries..different sources...same extended family!!..going back to Apperknowle, by the way........

There was a stronghold of TALLENTS/TALENTS/TALLANTS.....starting at Sutton cum Duckmanton....through Heath..and on to North Wingfield and other places......You may noy know that all three of these places are within spitting distance of each other.

That being the case I have found what may be a logical sequence, but I do not offer it as's a possibility..based on the fact that there is only one possible MARY TALLENTS of the right age..(that I can find..and believe me I've been in three Counties..not literally!)..and on the likelihood that MARY was 17 when she married George Hibberd. 09.07.1755

Which takes us to GODFREY and MARY TALLANTS of Sutton cum Duckmanton,.and two children baptised in Heath:-

MARY TALLENTS (spelling magnificently interchangeable!!) 05.06.1738
WILLIAM TALLANTS takes only a small leap of faith to believe that they then moved to North Wingfield.....and you asked about the possibility of Elizabeth being a sister of Mary????????..well..this quite brilliant (and probably totally erroneous) scenario says YES!.......becasue they had two daughters called ELIZABETH TALLENTS (they being Godfrey and Mary)..the first baptised NW 15.06.1744.and clearly died..and the second 08.01.1748......who mat well be the lady of the 1777 marriage..........

this is not completely though through..but i thought i'd better get back to you sooner rather than later......lolol
EDIT.....North Wingfield burial 01.11.1744 Elizabeth Tallants infant daughter of Godfrey and Mary

Derek xxx.


littlelegs Report 12 Oct 2013 18:39

hi derek

its me

back to researching in derbyshire

right here goes

elizabeth hibbert baptised 1756 northwingfield parents george and mary

so found a marriage for george

george hibbert married mary tallents [tallants] 9 july 1755 north wingfield
so now i would like to find parents of mary tallents

have found a hephzibah tallents marrying a soloman siddon now just wondering if hephzibah could be marys sister

if you remember george and mary hibberts daughter elizabeth married john selby and they called one of there daughters hephzibah

well i will leave it with you and see if you can find me anything

thank you

lorraine [littlelegs]


Sally Report 11 Oct 2013 21:35

o Derek as if I would desert you
:-| :-| :-| :-|

sally w <3 <3+ <3


Neil Report 11 Oct 2013 15:26

Thank you Derek for your assistance, I know they're not uncommon names at that time but what are the chances of there being two families of White's with siblings Sarah, Frederick, Joe and Ernest in Barlborough!!! Wouldn't surprise me if they weren't connected in some way further down the line.