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and thanks to Chris too, just working my way through the info :)

Thanks Cherilyn :)

I always forget that I don't get a notification for threads on here :(

Nudge for Linda25g

Here is daughter Gertrude's marriage:
8204/1926
JENNINGS JOHN C
CHALLINOR GERTRUDE
WEST MAITLAND

Gertrude's death is listed here http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

As is Irene's :-)

James' brother William died in the AIF in WWI. This doc has more details of his family.
https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showPerson?pid=49682

It would appear that James & Elizabeth might have had another child in NSW:
CHALLINOR JAMES : Service Number - NX83596 : Date of birth - 22 Jan 1919 : Place of birth - WEST MAITLAND NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - CHALLINOR JAMES [father]

James snr's address is Victoria St, West Maitland. James jnr lived at Tamworth.

His marriage:
33586/1942
CHALLINOR JAMES
CAMPBELL IRENE ALICE
TAMWORTH

See http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/ to view his service record.

Here is Charles' WWII enlistment I'd say - wife as next of kin?

CHALLINOR CHARLES : Service Number - N442432 : Date of birth - 04 Dec 1902 : Place of birth - LIVERPOOL NSW : Place of enlistment - WEST MAITLAND NSW : Next of Kin - CHALLINOR MAY

Here is his marriage:
3998/1932
CHALLINOR CHARLES
SCHOFIELD MAY
WEST MAITLAND

His death is also noted at NAA RecordSearch - something to do with Veterans Affairs:
CHALLINOR Charles - N442432 ACMF; Year of Death - 1955; Crematorium - Beresfield NSW

CHALLINOR ELIZABETH 77 17/09/1958 18/09/1958 CE Campbells Hill BR BOR DER 2B LOCATION N OT VE 13009
CHALLINOR JAMES 63 29/05/1944 31/05/1944 CE Campbells Hill BR BOR DER 2 35 13010

Hi sorry I haven't been checking here lately!

I think the burials Chris found are the right ones - I suspect your post has the deaths moved down for James & Elizabeth? He died 1944 (son of Chas & Emma) and she in 1958 (daughter of Richard & Mary). Son Charles died in 1955 also in Maitland.

I am off to work now but will check back later.

Cheers
Cherilyn

(just adding a Mrs E. Challinor (age 34), departed 5/5/1914 to NSW on 'Makarini' with Master C. (age 11) Miss G. (age 5)

(she seems to be alone with children)

(from FMP Passenger Lists, if relating!)


1911 (Find My Past. Reference)
James Challinor Head Married Male Chip Potatoes Dealer 31 1880 Lancashire Lpool
Elizabeth Challinor Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Lancashire St Helens
Charles Challinor Son Single Male School 8 1903 Lancashire Lpool
Gertrude Challinor Daughter Single Female - 2 1909 Lancashire Lpool
Address 125a Stanley Road Kirkdale Liverpool
Parish Kirkdale
County Lancashire
Census reference RG14 PN22471 RG78 PN1323 RD455 SD6 ED28 SN3
(says Married 9yrs, 2 children born, 2 living)

Chris :)


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
CHALLINOR James HUNT Elizabeth Kirkdale, St. Mary Liverpool 2013WD/23/98

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1903
CHALLINOR Charles Kirkdale Liverpool KIRK/130/23

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years 1909
CHALLINOR Gertrude Kirkdale Liverpool KIRK/159/14

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


http://www.maitland.nsw.gov.au/UserFiles/cemetery.txt

(if James senior above)


(if above any help with things along the way!)

Hi Cherilyn, I've tried looking myself but would you be able to help me with relatives I believe emigrated to Australia, info I have is
James Challinor born abt 1880 England died
Elizabeth Challinor born abt 1880 England died 1944 Maitland NSW
Charles Challinor born abt 1902 England died 1958 Maitland NSW
Gertrude Challinor born abt 1909 England died
James Challinor born abt 1919 Maitland NSW died 1992 Tamworth NSW

I have found them on 1911 census in England but can't find when they travelled to Australia, death info is off another family tree but would like to confirm they are my family

thank you in anticipation
Linda

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Hi Gina

Sorry no luck. :-(

Hi Cherilyn

Me again. I have Victor Arthur Salmon born 1927 in London England travelling to Sydney on the Orford in 1937. There is a Victor Arthur Salmon on the 1954 electoral roll for Kedron, Queensland and 1980 for Surfers Paradise, Queensland with Edth Fay Salmon down on both. Could you please see if you can find a marriage and any children. I am not sure if they would have married in Queensland. I have tried looking but keep going in circles.

Gina

Hi Cherilyn

Many thanks for having a look for me. Herbert Williams death is registered Staines, Middlesex. There is always the chance that there was no second marriage but will have a look over here to see what i can find xx

Hi GIna

The only marriage in NSW I can see is in 1916 but that is a Herbert Harold SALMON, in Murwillumbah.

There was also a Wm Herbert SALMON in NSW around this time but he had different parents, so not a match.

It seems more likely his 2nd marriage would have been in England, where they met and where he died. HIs divorce does not appear in newspapers (NLA Trove). Harrietta May certainly didn't remarry; se died as SALMON in NSW in 1966.

It is possible he left his wife and returned to the UK and did not legally marry the 2nd woman, but lived as man and wife. Do you know where he is buried/memorialised?

I note from this service record that he was almost 43 when he enlisted and had 2 children under 16; they were living in Qld at the time.

He was discharged due to 'premature senility' in 1918. See http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

PS His son Harold George b. 1893 NSW married Dora ELLEVSEN in Qld; sadly he was KIA in Belgium in WWI. They had a son named Harold Ellevsen who died in 1985 in Qld.

Good Morning Cherilyn,
Thanks for the reply, Yes I was afraid you would come up with that answer No, the death certificate only states that he was born in Victoria. & there was no mention of a second marriage I don't have any more details on his Birth, just that he died in 1906 aged 75. I have the names & ages of his 10 children of William & Mary McGuinness & a few details.of his children, If there is no mention of birth details on his Marriage or death certificate I doubt that I can get any further.
Thanks for your help
Beryl

I have a Herbert William Salmon born 1869 London England. He married Harrietta Dodson in 1892 NSW. I have been led to believe that after the great war, Herbert met another woman in England while serving and returned to Oz where he married her after seperating from Harriet. Herbert died 1944 in England. I am trying to find out if this second marriage is true. I would like details on marriage if possible and any children from it. Herbert Williams parents were George and Charlotte Salmon.

hope someone can help

Gina

Hi Beryl, thanks for your message. This is a tricky one, if his marriage and death certs don't have any info then it doesn't give you much hope.

Does his marriage or death give a birthplace?

Also given his age when he married Mary (assuming you mean born 1831) is there any indication on the marriage cert that it was his 2nd marriage? ie widower.

Guessing you have all his children's details.