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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Aug 2014 10:23

On Edmund Charles (or Edward Charles as he seemed to prefer to be known as) - he seemed to stay at the same address (Broad Street, Diamond Creek, Victoria) from 1936 onwards.

From 1936 to 1941 he's listed as a driver but by 1954 (when a daughter also makes a brief appearance on the electoral rolls) he's become a clerk. Sylvia May is listed with him to 1968 and then in 1977 he's listed alone.

You asked which ship he arrived on - he's listed on a few crew lists

Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930
Name: E Heavens
Rank: Ordinary Seaman
Arrival Port: Newcastle
Departure Date: 19 Jan 1921
Departure Port: Albany
Vessel Name: Baldina

Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930
Name: E Heavens
Rank: Ordinary Seaman
Nationality or Origin: British
Arrival Date: 8 Feb 1922
Arrival Port: Bunbury
Departure Port: Albany
Vessel Name: Baldina

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: E Heavens
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Age: 18
Port of Departure: Port Adelaide
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1922
Vessel Name: Baldina
Origin Location: Surrey (eng)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Aug 2014 09:47

Sorry, I should have said there was no listing for Alma Maria with Maurice - here she is:

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Alma Maria Heavens
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1977
State: Queensland
District: McPherson
Subdistrict: Nerang

Occupation hairdresser, living in an area called Surfers Paradise.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Aug 2014 09:37

Just following on from the info Cherylin found on Edmund Maurice .....

This is him on the Electoral Rolls:

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Edmund Maurice Heavens
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1963
State: Victoria
District: deakin
Subdistrict: Heidelberg

He's a contractor, living 37 Dobson Avenue, N22. At the same address is Alma Maria, a hairdresser. They're both at the same address with the same occupations in 1968 & 1972.


Different scenario in 1977

Name: Edmund Maurice Heavens
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1977
State: Victoria
District: Templestowe
Subdistrict: Ivanhoe

He's now living 8/59 Green Street and is a director. No listing for Alma Maria

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 31 Jul 2014 09:50

This MAY be Sylvia's first marriage - but no death found for husband 1927-30:

Family Name: EDWARDS
Given Name: Alex Wm Chas
Spouse Family Name: MCLEISH
Spouse Given Name: Sylvia May
Registration Year: 1927
Registration Number: 5102
Event: M

Fits with this birth, which fits her age at death:

Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913
Surname: MCLEISH
Given Names: Sylvia May
Event: B
Father: Jas Jno Pritcha
Mother: Annie Flor COX
Birth Place: MELBOURNE SOUTH
Year: 1908
Reg. Number: 21029

It is quite possible the informant on her death has mixed up some surnames I'd say!

Edmund Chas & Sylvia are certainly indicated on Edmund Maurice's death as his parents and the timing fits too (they married in 1930). Perhaps you knew all this tho.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 31 Jul 2014 09:32

OK so Doris was Edmund Chas HEAVENS wife - sad she died so young

Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942
Family Name: CUFFE
Given Name: Doris Mary
Spouse Family Name: HEAVENS
Spouse Given Name: Edmund Chas
Registration Year: 1927
Registration Number: 4936
Event: M

and Sylvia was his 2nd wife

Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942
Family Name: HEAVENS
Given Name: Edward Charles
Spouse Family Name: EDWARDS
Spouse Given Name: Sylvia May
Registration Year: 1930
Registration Number: 3495
Event: M

PS I know this says Edward Chas but there were really only these HEAVENS in Victoria so I do believe it is the same person. Plus they lived and died in the same area as per my earlier posts. Oddly now there are none in Victoria, most live in Western Australia (where I am!) and a few in NSW. None in Tasmania either.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 31 Jul 2014 09:11

Hi Dolly

Ok so here is Chas Maurice's death:

Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985
Surname: HEAVENS
Given Names: Edmund Maurice
Father: Edmund Charles
Mother: Sylvia
Death Place: HEID
Age: 48
Year: 1980
Reg Number: 26238
Event: D

His death certificate will tell you his wife's name, when and where they married and any children they had (names and ages in 1980). You can order from https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

I wonder if this is his mum's death? She was in the same area as the other Edmund and place name matches the engagement notice above too:

HEAVENS Sylvia May
Death notice
05SEP1976 Death late of Greensborough
Heidelberg Leader
08SEP1976

Her death reg (22553) shows her as age 68, no father's name and mother as Sylvia OWEN!!! Very odd.

The only other HEAVENS death is a Doris Mary Grace HEAVENS, daughter of Jas Francis LUFFE and Mary Grace DURHAM, who died in 1929 aged only 24 - also died in Heidelberg. Must be a connection.

EDIT - found Doris' birth as CUFFE - in 1904 in Brunswick, Victoria (reg 15932), parents as above.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 31 Jul 2014 09:07

Thanks MC :)

Hm Dolly so both Edmund HEAVENS died in 1980 in Victoria?

From Ryerson Index - http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

HEAVENS
Edmund Charles (Ted)
Death notice
02JAN1980 Death at Cabrini Hospital, formerly of Heidelberg
Heidelberg Leader
23JAN1980

The problem here is privacy laws mean no public access to the marriages in the period Edmund Maurice would have wed.

There is this engagement notice from NLA Trove:
The Argus, Saturday 8 January 1955
OWEN-HEAVENS.-The engagement ls announced of Alma, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Owen, of Wordsworth ave., Heidelberg West, to Edmund, only son of Mr. and Mrs. Heavens, of Greensborough.

Note this is only an engagement so the marriage may not have proceeded.

Still looking...

Dolly

Dolly Report 30 Jul 2014 22:39

Marie, Thank you for all that fantasticm info. Also the other bit you sent me. Thats was invaluable to my hunting. I now know alot more about him.
Many Thanks.
Dolly x


If by chance you do have a spare bit of time,( I was going to say 5 minutes lol but that would be rediculous)
Can you possibly look up the other Oz thing I wanted below?.

Edmund Maurice Heavens, he was born in Melbourne 11th September 1933, mothers maiden name was Heavens. As far as I know the family had only lived in the Glen Waverley area of Melbourne, he died in November 1980. I also want to know his wifes name. I know she went down to Tazmania with I think 2 children they had.

Cheers for now,
Dolly x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Jul 2014 22:43

The "S" didn't stand for Sidney:

Merchant Seamen Transcription
First name(s) EDMUND CHARLES STEER
Last name Heavens
Age -
Birth year 1903
Birth day 19
Birth month June
Birth place Guildford
Birth county Surrey
Place GUILDFORD
Discharge number -
Identity certificate number 349561
Card type CR10
Date range 1918-1921
Series BT350

I'm sending you the image of his card as it has a lovely clear photograph of him.

Cherilyn may be able to give you more info on this:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Edmund Charles Heavens
Death Place: Malvern, Victoria
Age: 76
Father's Name: Walter
Mother's name: Jessie
Registration Year: 1980
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 02133
Estimated birth year: abt 1904

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Jul 2014 22:37

Hello Dolly (have I heard that somewhere before?) I don't think Cherilyn will mind if I jump in with the non Australia part of your request.

This is the record you refer to for Edmund Chas Heavens:

Honolulu, Hawaii, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1900-1959
Name: Edmund Chas Heavens
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1904
Port of Departure: New York
Ship: Jason
Port of Arrival: Honolulu, Hawaii
Arrival Date: 20 May 1919
Race: British (English)

He was a member of the crew, rating O/S.He joined the ship 20 Jan 1919 at Avonmouth and he had a heart tattooed on his right forearm.

This must have been the first leg of the journey:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Edmund Chas Heavens
Arrival Date: 21 Mar 1919
Birth Date: abt 1904
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Gibraltar
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Jason

Dolly

Dolly Report 29 Jul 2014 09:58

Hi Cherilyn,
I wonder if you can look up the Death and Marriage of my cousin.
He is Edmund Maurice Heavens, he was born in Melbourne 11th September 1933, as far as I know the family had only lived in the Glen Waverley area, he died in November 1980. I also want to know his wifes name. I know she went down to Tazmania with I think 2 children they had.
Is it possible to get the registration as I want to order a death cert or do you even know if its possible to order death certs from abroad?

Also is it possible for any info on an Edmund Charles (Sidney ?) Heavens dob 19/06/1904 born Guildford, England. He left for Australia in his early 20s. I wanted to know where he left from and what port he arrived at.

Many thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

I have just had this come up on Ancestry hints


Honolulu, Hawaii, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1900-1959 Record

Immigration & Travel

Name:
Edmund Chas Heavens
Birth:
year
Arrival:
dd mm year in location
Departure:
location

But unfortunately I don't have world wide Ancestry :-|

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 29 Jul 2014 09:18

nudge for Woolbags

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 25 Jul 2014 06:19

This confirms James was a brother of Albert, going by the names you gave in your post:

1941/C3055
James Boon
[father] Jonathan
[mother] Susan Benom

James lived and died in Esk, Qld.

Albert's death:
1934/B24836
Albert Boon
[father] Jonathan
[mother] Susan Benham

There was another brother named George Edward who died in 1931.

Mother Susan died in 1895:

1895/C1010
Susan Boon
[father] William Benham
[mother] Sarah Ling

Death for a Jonathan BOON, son of Elisha BOON, in Qld in 1913 (C3248).

UK marriage:

Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BENHAM / Susan / Plomesgate / 4a / 941
BOON / Jonathan / Plomesgate / 4a / 941


Jonathan & Susan arrived in Qld in 1887, both aged 50, aboard 'Merkara'. It appears the brothers came separately - James in 1883 aged 23 and Albert in 1882 aged 21. Can't see George, unless he in incorrectly listed as George BOOR (arrived 1887 aged 23, same ship as his parents but a different voyage). See http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Indexes/Immigration/Pages/Immigration1848.aspx

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 25 Jul 2014 02:34

Hi Edna

Sorry I have been on holidays

I am thinking Jonathon & Susan Boon were Albert's parents, not Louisa's??

Is this her birth in Qld?

1862/C371
Louisa Ellen Beer
[father] John
[mother] Caroline Bullock

matches this Qld death:

1926/C2720
Louisa Ellen Boon
[father] John Augustus Beer
[mother] Caroline Bullock

Her parents UK marriage:

Marriages Sep 1855
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beer / John Augustus / Plymouth / 5b / 348
BULLOCK / Caroline / Plymouth / 5b / 348

They were in Qld by 1862, when Louisa was born. Other siblings born in Qld:
Evangelina Elvina b. 1865, d. 1950
Frederick Francis b. 1867, d. 1966!
Emmeline b. 1871, d. 1872
Edith Ann b. 1875, d. 1944 as BAILEY (marriage not found in Qld but died in Esk)
Lily Gertrude b. 1878, m. Samuel Tasman ROBSON 1901 as Lillie Gertie, d. 1957 as Lillian Gertrude ROBSON

A child named Almeda died in 1865, possibly born elsewhere. There was also a sister named Augusta Theresa who died in 1913 as JORGENSEN (married Hans JORGENSEN in 1887).

According to a post online from some time ago, Evangelina married as Eva BEER to James BOON in 1888 (reg C624) - possibly a brother of Albert BOON who married her older sister in 1885?!

Her death:
1950/C3976
Eva Boon
[father] John Beer
[mother] Caroline Bullock

Esk Cemetery
Boon, Eva, bur. 15 Sep 1950, age: 85yr, W E Hawkins FH, Grave #932
Boon, James, bur. 1 Aug 1941, age: 83yr, W E Hawkins FH, Grave #764

Edna

Edna Report 22 Jul 2014 23:04

searching for Louisa Ellen boon nee Beer who married Albert Boon. Her parents are Johnathan Boon and Susan Benham . Thank you Regards Edna Wiseman nee Boon

Gai

Gai Report 7 Jul 2014 12:08


For reference Margaret's thread on the Corby family

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342304



Gai

Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Jul 2014 11:56

Hi Cherilyn - I wonder if you could help. I have a Joseph Corby who travelled with wife Mabel and small sons Joseph and Sidney on the Barrapool departing London 25 Februaury 1926 bound for Sydney. That is the last I have of them although I am given to understand that at some point - heaven knows when - they lived in Melbourne. Are you able to help with information on whether they had more children and/or where they lived, whether any of them were in the Armed Forces - generally what happened to them ? Many thanks for any help you may be able to give.

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 24 Jun 2014 13:28

Thanks Cherilyn-it was a long-shot anyway :-)

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 24 Jun 2014 10:43

Hi Elizabeth, I don't have Tas BDM but can't see him in permission to marry or departures from Tas.

Sorry :-(

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 22 Jun 2014 13:53

Hi Cherilyn

Mark Light was transported to Van Diemans Land on the Waterloo 18 November 1834 (age 19) is there anyway of finding out what eventually happened to him ?

I do not have Worldwide Ancestry :-)