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Hi Tony
Thanks for your offer. I have two relatives John and Simeon Nunn and their friend Ephraim Litchfield who were transported for assault and robbery on the squire's son.
They were convicted on 23rd July 1832 in Cambridge.
John Nunn was born in 1807 and married Charlotte Pet who died in 1835. They had two sons born 1830 and 1832. John married again in 1847 a Sarah Sanders in Brighton Tasmania. Obviously his first wife died after he had been transported so would he have known this to be able to marry again??
Simeon Nunn married a Mary Ann Argent in 1845 in Hobart Tasmania and apparently had 10 children between 1846 and 1873.

Their voyage date was 28th Sep 1832
The Vessel was Georgiana
Colony was Van Diemans Land Tasmania
Arrival date was 1st February 1833
Departure from Portsmouth 16th Oct 1832

Were they allowed to be married whilst they were transported or were they pardoned or released and how will i find the death dates for them.
Hope you can help me
thankyou
cathy

Thannks Tony-maybe mine weren't as bad as I thought thanks for taking the time to look

Hi Tony,

Thank you for your kind offer could you possibly check for a Thomas Dyke he was born in 1799 Coventry warwickshire and sentenced in 1853 for LifeT i believe that was transported for life i can not find any info on what ship all anything on him so i cant give any more info sorry.

Regards Zena

Hi Cathy in Portsmouth.

Tasmanian Archives show both John and Simeon NUNN received a CP ( Conditional pardon ) which meant neither could return to England.


Convicts that were not allowed to leave the Colony could re-marry, regardless of whether they were already married back in th U.K


They both would have needed a AP ( Absolute Pardon ) to return home.
Absolute Pardons allowed convicts to return to England as their sentences were totally cleared.

John Nunn:
Sentence details: Convicted at Cambridge Assizes for a term of life on 23 July 1832.
Vessel: Georgiana.
Date of Departure: 28 September 1832.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Transported for Highway Robbery
Received 25 lashes for pilfering some clothes from another prisoner. Oct 13th 1834
Occ: Ploughman
Height: 5ft 2and a half inches.
Complexion :Dark
Whiskers: Dark Brown
Hair:Dark Brown
Eyes: Hazel

Received a CP ( Conditional Pardon ) March 1843


There is a death listed on Tasmanian BDM pioneer index in Hobart, of a John NUNN 12th Oct 1883..aged 80 years. Reg no:1241 Given that you say he was born 1807, its quite possible this is him. Taking into consideration that "ages" given on our index's can be a few years out.


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Simeon Nunn:
Sentence details: Convicted at Cambridge Assizes for a term of life on 23 July 1832.
Vessel: Georgiana.
Date of Departure: 28 September 1832.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Occ: Ploughman
Height: 5ft 3 and a half inches.
Complexion :Fair
Whiskers: None
Hair:Redish Brown
Eyes: Light Grey
Anchor on left arm.
18th Mar 1844 Gang...Absent without leave
3rd Mar 1841 Hard labour Gang.. Hobart.

Received a CP ( Conditional Pardon ) March 1845

This "could" be Simeon NUNN ( Marriage )
I wouldnt take to much notice of age given ( ie: birth 1820 )

NUNN, SIMEON
Gender: Male
Birth 1820 -
Marriage/Relationship: 1845 - HOBART,Tasmania ( ARGANT, MARY ANN )
Death:

FAMILY INFORMATION

Children: 226835 NUNN MYRAM 1846
226829 NUNN MARY ANN 1848
226831 NUN EMMA 1850
226834 NUNN CHARLES 1855
226832 NUNN JOHN 1857
226837 NUNN ELIZABETH ANN 1859
226830 NUNN HENRY 1862
226836 NUNN ARTHUR 1865
226828 NUNN ALFRED THEOPHALIS J 1868
226833 NUNN ADA 1873


Cant see a death for him in Tasmania.

Just to note:
Many records are also missing from our Archives.
Some ex convicts also changed their surnames and forenames.

Tony ( Victoria )

Hi Zena.

Sorry..but cant see a Thomas DYKE/DYKES tranported to Australia ( 1850s )

The only Thomas DYKE on Australia tranportees index was a Thomas DYKE in 1824 on the "Princes Charlotte" to Tasmania... Convicted at Lancaster, Borough of Wigan.


Transportation to New South Wales ended circ. 1840

( V.D.L )Tasmania mid to late 1840s

By the late 1840s most convicts being sent to Van Diemens Land * Tasmania * (plus those to Victoria) were known as "exiles"

After early1850s....transportation continued in small numbers to Western Australia.
The last convict ship to arrive was in Western Australia, the "Hougoumont", left Britain in 1867 and arrived in Western Australia on 10 January 1868.


I have checked what records i can find for Western Australia, but unfortunatley there is no Thomas DYKE or DYKES 1852 listed.


Perhaps he was transported elsewhere? ( Canada - America )



Tony ( Australia )

Hi Tony

Found another possible in my tree.

James Norval, alias McAulay.
Verdict: Guilty
Verdict Comments: Guilty in terms of own confession
Sentence: Transportation - 7 years
Previous convictions: theft - Edinburgh sheriff court, 6 December 1849. Note: Pannel cannot write.

If you could find any information on him, or any other Norvals, that would be great :)


Thanks again,
Mhairi

Hi again Mhairi.

Sorry, but still no luck with a James NORVAL / NORVIL-S / NORVILL / NORVILLE...alias McAulay....on Australia's convict transportee's......circ.1849


Norval Henry 17 Nov 1820 Ship: Caledonia (1) arrival V.D.L ( Tasmania) 10 Jul 1820 from Portsmouth.


Norval Williams, one of 389 convicts transported on the Moffatt, 10 August 1842.
Sentence details: Convicted at Devon, Exeter City Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years.
Vessel: Moffatt.
Date of Departure: 10 August 1842.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.



One Convict pardon for:

Name: Archibald Norval
Arrival Year: 1835
Vessel: Warrior
Piece: HO 10/53
Province: New South Wales
Title: Pardons
Year(s): 1842-1845
Place of Conviction: Cawnpore Bengal

Name: James Mcauley
Arrival Year: 1832
Vessel: Captn Cook
Piece: HO 10/31
Province: New South Wales
Title: Pardons (also TASMANIA)
Year(s): 1834-1838
Place of Conviction: Meath



One George NORVILLE to Western Australia 1856 from England


7 McAULAY to Australia...most sentenced in Edinburgh, and most sent to Tasmania....but no James amongst them.


Blanket search "NORVAL" Australia.... BDM ( 1800 to 1900 )
NORVAL, Anne....................M........1859......VIC.........Sp:....Alexander WILSON
NORVAL, Euphemia Lily...M........1899......WA.........Sp:....Hugh SMYTHE
NORVAL, Isabella................D........1860......NSW
NORVAL, James W.............M........1841......NSW......Sp:....Margaret MEDLEY
NORVAL, John A.................D........1866......NSW......Fa:.....George
NORVAL, Nathaniel.............D.......1885.......NSW


Tony.

Hi Tony
Thankyou so much the detail is fantastic. I am so pleased with the info you have found for me.
Thankyou again
Cathy

Hi Tonyoz thankyou for your offer can you look for 4 of my lot
William Kent sent to Norfolk Island Convicted 26 feb 1849
Voyage date 24 dec 1851 Got 7 years
Thomas Kent Sent Norfolk 9 may 1846 got 15 years
George Kent 21 dec 1864 on the Belgravia Got 12 years
James Kent 26 oct 1835 on the Recovery got life
they all come from Burghfield Berkshire England
thankyou for any help susan

Hi Tony

Thank you so much for looking for me i will try the other suggestions.

Thank you Zena

Hi Susan. (TheButler )

The info i suppy is what records i can find, and possible there could be more information out there, regarding your 4 KENT's
Hope it helps.

From September 1844 until 1856, when it closed as a penal settlement, Norfolk Island was under the jurisdiction of the Tasmanian Government, and was staffed by the Tasmanian Convict Department. Throughout this period, male convicts were being transferred from there to Tasmania, as a result of their sentences there having expired, some had been sent there from Tasmania.


Tasmanian Archives.
Note: Convicts from the "Aboukir" appear to have disembarked in Tasmania.

William Kent, one of 280 convicts transported on the Aboukir, 24 December 1851.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berkshire, Abingdon Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years

on 26 February 1849......( Surgeon report states 7 years )
Transported for Robbery and previous conviction ( Highway Robbery & Poaching )
Vessel: Aboukir.
Date of Departure: 24 December 1851.
Port of Dept. London
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land and Norfolk Island.
Native Place: Reading
Age:26
Occ: Dairyman
Height: 5ft one and qrt inch
Hair: Dark Brown
Whiskers: Black
Eyes: Brown
Can read & write a little
Ticket of Leave 30th Aug 1853
C.P ..1854 appd

Cant see any reference for "Convict application for permission to marry"
But a "possible" marriage in Tas. Would need to be checked, as there were a number of Wiliam KENT in Tasmania.

KENT, WILLIAM
Gender: Male
Birth
Marriage/Relationship: 1866 - HOBART,Tasmania ( TURNER, MARTHA )
Death:

FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
362301 KENT IRVING 1866
362262 KENT CROFTON 1867

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Tasmanian Archives:

Thomas Kent, one of 200 convicts transported on the John Calvin, 09 May 1846.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berkshire Assizes for a term of 15 years.
Vessel: John Calvin.
Date of Departure: 09 May 1846.
Port of Dept. Woolwich
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land and Norfolk Island....21 Sep 1846
Remarks: Off Norfolk Island per Lady Franklin Jan 1851
Convicted for: Robbery with Violence
Condition: Married

Indent report remarks Notes.
Aug 25th 1847 Norfolk Island ..Misconduct
Sept 21st 1847 Neglect of duty
To be removed to V.D.L ( Tasmania )
28 Sept 1851...TL refused.
Constable of Water police
Not elligible for T.L ( Ticket of Leave ) 20th April 1852..must serve 7 years 6months.

Tasmanian Archives:
One death for a Thomas KENT in Tasmania

KENT, THOMAS
Gender: Male
Birth circ. 1780
Death: 22 Jul 1855 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania
Reg Year: 1855
Reg No:1879



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George Kent, one of 277 convicts transported on the Belgravia, 04 April 1866.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berkshire. Assizes Reading for a term of 12 years.
Vessel: Belgravia.
Date of Departure: 04 April 1866.
Place of Arrival: Western Australia.

Freemantle:
Convict Database
KENT, George
Convict No: 8911
Ship Name: Belgravia
Ship Arrival Date: 4 Jul 1866
Birth Date: 1841
Marital Status: Unmarried
Occupation: labourer
Literacy: lit
Religion: Prot
Sentence Place: Reading
Length of Sentence: 12yrs
Crime: firing hay stack
Previous Conviction prev conv
Ticket of Leave Date: 14 May 1871
Certified Freedom Date: 21 Dec 1876
Certified Freedom Place: York
Known Areas: Swan, Fremantle, Perth, Guildford
Comments: General servant, roadmaking, quarrying, labourer

Only one marriage showing up in W.A for a George KENT. ( But... George Stanley KENT )
KENT GEORGE STANLEY.... Spouse: GRANT ELIZABETH ANNIE District: KALGOORLIE Reg No:517 Reg Year: 1905

Two death for a George KENT in Western Australia. ( Most possible is the death 1913 YORK )....... As per Re: Certified Freedom Place: York

KENT GEORGE ..Male.....District: YORK..... Reg No: 2.... Reg Year: 1913
KENT GEORGE S... Male ....FREMANTLE....Reg: 214....... Reg Year: 1924

Will add details of James KENT shortly


Tony ( Australia )

Hi Tonyoz thankyou so very much you are a darling thatsmy lot susan xxxx

Hi Susan.

Sorry...but cant find any concrete records on James KENT.

James Kent, one of 280 convicts transported on the Recovery, 26 October 1835.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berks Assizes for a term of life on 28 February 1835.
Vessel: Recovery.
Date of Departure: 26 October 1835.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Recovery (3) Date of Arr:25/2/1836 Sailed from: London..Arr: Port Jackson


Nothing on N.S.W Archives...... TL, CP, AP.... ect.
Nothing showing on 1841 census ( N.S.W ) ....although this census is not complete.

Note:1841 Census.....This index covers all the surviving householders' returns and abstracts of returns. As the returns record only the name of the head of the household, the names of the other people resident in the household are not identified


N.S.W State Archives:
Two references to a James KENT..... District Mudgee..N.S.W
KENT James - Mudgee 25 Nov 1852 Horse stealing District: Bathurst 030 NRS 849 1 2760
KENT James - Maitland 14 Apr 1852 Horse stealing District: Maitland 023 NRS 849 1 2760


Only one James KENT marriage ( 1835 to 1890 )
943/1856 KENT JAMES DEVLIN Spouse: BROWN MARY ANN NEATHWAY District: ST GEORGE

Total of 9 possible deaths ( 1835 to 1920 ) N.S.W
First one could be a possible, but without knowing his birth year its only a "possible"

V1851255 37B/1851 KENT JAMES AGE 39
12452/1887 KENT JAMES Fath: JOHN Moth:ANN District:CASINO
1482/1882 KENT JAMES Fath:WILLIAM D Moth:MARY District: SYDNEY
10797/1892 KENT JAMES Fath: UNKNOWN Moth:UNKNOWN District:PARRAMATTA
13926/1908 KENT JAMES Fath: HENRY Moth:LOUISA District:INVERELL
6781/1912 KENT JAMES R Fath: JAMES R District: MUDGEE
2788/1894 KENT JAMES L Fath: UNKNOWN Moth:UNKNOWN District: BATHURST
5711/1898 KENT JAMES Fath: GEORGE Moth:BRIDGET District: INVERELL
1482/1882 KENT JAMES Fath: WILLIAM D Moth:MARY District: SYDNEY


Tony.

thanks again tonyoz will look later as its 4 in the morning here so iam off to bed thankyou for your help and good night susan

Hello TonyOz

I appreciate this might be a big request but here goes,

My family BREASLEY who originated in Ireland, emigrated to Australia as there are numerous families all around Australia.

Are you able to locate any convicts of this name that were sent to Oz as far as you can go back

Regards

Margaret

Hi Margaret.

Sorry...but Australian convicts dont show any BREASLEY.

Checked Convicts on 1st Fleet, 2nd Fleet and 3rd Fleet also...nothing

Also checked.. "The Old Bailey "....nothing

Tried a few different ways of spelling..... BREESLEY/ BREESLY/BREASLEE./BREAZLEY. ect...but nothing regarding a convict.

Not much consulation but.....The name BREASLEY was well known in horse racing in Australia.

Arthur Edward "Scobie" Breasley was an Australian jockey. He won the Caulfield Cup in Melbourne five times: 1942-45 consecutively on Tranquil Star, Skipton, Counsel and St Fairy; then on Peshawar in 1952. He also won the Epsom Derby twice, and the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe once....born 1914 in Wagga Wagga..N.S.W


Perhaps a relo?


Best wishes.

Tony ( Melbourne Vic. )

Thanks Tony

Yes I am aware of Scobie Breasley and I am trying to find out if he is a distant relative. I am not able to find out if his grandparents and my great grandparents are related as I am sure that they may have originated in Dublin, but due to census records being destroyed I cannot get confirmation.

Any ideas how I can move forward?

Grateful thanks

Margaret

Hi Margaret.

Below is a link to Arthur Edward *Scobie* BREASLEY line.

Arthur Edward Breasley born May 7 1914 Wagga Wagga ( one of 7 children ) and was the son of Sidney Thomas and Emily Maud Breasley ( maiden Newton )
His parents married in 1900 Wagga Wagga.

Sidney Thomas Breasley was born 20th Aug 1880 Wagga Wagga,( one of 12 children )and son of Daniel Kingsmill Breasley and Ellen Johnston

So Daniel Kingsmill Breasley would be Arthur ( Scobie ) Breasley's grandfather.

Daniel Kingsmill Breasley, was born 1852 Millers Point , Sydney, N.S.W son of Daniel Kenward Breasley who was born c.1821 in Selby, Yorkshire Eng.
He married Julia Ann Shaw born c.1833 Dublin Ireland.

Julie ann SHAW apparently...was the daughter of Zaccariah Shaw & Julia Anne Kavanagh.


If you copy this link it will give you more info on the Arthur "Scobie" BREASLEY lineage.

There is a Convict conection of *Shaw* to Breasley through Zaccariah Shaw

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/t/Ian-R-Watkins/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html

*scroll down to BREASLEY* There are quite a few.

Hope that helps.

Tony

Many thanks for the info, I have encountered the Breasley Shaw link previously but cannot link their ancestors to mine. Even though some originated from Ireland

Nevertheless I will keep trying

Grateful thanks

Margaret

Your welcome.


Tony..:>))