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Hi Tony
I have a Joseph Bint transported in 1819 amd his brother Henry Bint transported in 1824 would like to know what happened to them please.
Many thanks
Vivienne

Hi Vivienne.

I noticed there were 3 BINT surnames transported to Australia.....apart from the two you listed........All three Convicted at Berks Assizes.

Joseph BINT ( Ship: Malabar)
Henry BINT and a Josiah BINT both on same ship ( Mangles ) in 1824.....( all brothers or cousins ?? ) so have listed what i can find on the three.


With "Conditional pardons" or "Cert. of Freedom" they were allowed to move throughout the country

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Joseph Bint, one of 170 convicts transported on the Malabar, 14 June 1819.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berks Assizes for a term of life.
Vessel: Malabar.
Date of Departure: 14 June 1819.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Notes: "MALABA"
Arrival Sydney,29th October 1819 of the ship 'Malabar'.....Captain Asque with 170 male prisoners. ........Touched at Rio de Janeiro. 4 months on the passage out to N.S.W

BINT Joseph Tried: Berkshire ass... Ship: Malabar....T.O.L..( Ticket of Leave ) ..No date

District: Parramatta...N.S.W

C.P ( Conditional Pardon ) 31st Dec 1836

1828 Census of N.S.W has no reference to a "Joseph BINT".
However, there is a reference to a "Joseph BENT" convict,aged 28 ..Protestant,who arrived on the "Malabar" and living in the "Parramatta" district in 1828....assigned to a Mrs Sarah Harris as a servant. The surname BINT could be mistranscribed or mis-spelt....... BINT/BENT/BUNT........so i would hazard a guess in saying Joseph Bent and Joseph Bint are one and the same person. Plus, there is no reference to a Joseph "BENT" listed on the ship Malabar

Its also possible he changed his surname from BINT to BENT, as this was not unusual for "ex-convicts" to re-arrange forenames and/or surnames to obtain work.
Also...as Joseph obtained his CF in the district of "Parramatta"

There are no references in any state of a marriage or death for a Joseph BINT


In saying this, there is a marriage for a Joseph BENT in 1835 in... N.S.W which might be worth investigating?.....Convicts were allowed to marry or re-marry even if they had a spouse back in the U.K ( but they needed permission ).....as they were not allowed to return home to England with just a CP. ( Conditional Pardon )

V1835242 129/1835 BENT JOSEPH spouse: WARD CATHERINE


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Henry Bint, one of 190 convicts transported on the Mangles, July 1824.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berks. Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years.
Vessel: Mangles.
Date of Departure: July 1824.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Notes: "MANGLES"
Arr: 1824 28th October....Captain John Coghill, master. 190 prisoners. Guard consisted of Col. Thornton, 40th Regiment, Lieutenant Dalrymple. 57th Regiment.

Colonial secretary papers:
BINT Henry. Per "Mangles" 1824
1824 Oct 30th....On list of convicts landed from the "Mangles" and forwarded to Bathurst for distribution.

T.O.L.......( Ticket of Leave ) BINT Henry.... ( No Date ) District: Bathurst...N.S.W

C.F ( Certificate of Freedom ) 28 Apr 1831

Death reference found in state of Victoria for a Henry BINT. ( ages and birth place would be approx..........pending on information given by informant, and how much they knew about deceased )

BINT, Henry..........CD 65812 Death
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown
Age at Death: 32
Birthplace: Lond
Reg Year: 1858
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 3619


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Josiah Bint, one of 190 convicts transported on the Mangles, July 1824.

Sentence details: Convicted at Berks. Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years.
Vessel: Mangles.
Date of Departure: July 1824.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.

Colonial secretary papers:
BINT, Josiah. Per "Mangles", 1824
1824 Oct 30th.....On list of convicts landed from the "Mangles" and forwarded to Bathurst for
distribution

T.O.L.......( Ticket of Leave ) BINT Josiah.... ( No Date )District: Bathurst...N.S.W

C.F ( Certificate of Freedom ) 25 Aug 1832


Bathurst Jail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathurst_Correctional_Complex

Tony.

Hi Tony
Thank you very much for that information much appreciated
Vivienne

hi tony.
i have a george collins in my family born 1799 bradford yorkshire england.he was transported to tasmania ,western australia for a botched burglary,
his wife was henriette dracup.
convicted -3rd jan 1865.
lived at lidget street bradford yorkshire.
voyage date-13th oct 1866.
ship-corona.
place of conviction beverley yorkshire england
sentence to ten years.
would that mean a one way ticket.?
if you can find any thing out it would help.
thank you lisa.

Hi Tony,

I've just found a missing ancester sentenced to 7 years transportation on 1st March 1847. at Leicester Boro Sesions

His name was Thomas Palmer born 1836/7 ( 11 yrs at time ) Leicester, son of John and Mary Ann Palmer.
Wondered if you would be kind enough to take a look for me
Many thanks
Sue

Hi Lisa.

Tasmania is a completely different State to Western Australia.....so i assume you mean he was transported to Western Australia.

Yes...looking at what references i can find, it would be a one way ticket....lol

Without an A.P ( Absolute Pardon ) your George COLLINS would not have returned to England. References below show this George Collins received a C.F ( Certificate of Freedom ) in 1876 which meant he was allowed to remain in Australia, and possibly New Zealand only.

There were 20 George COLLINS transported to Australia.


The one you mention:
George Collins, one of 306 convicts transported on the Corona, 13 October 1866.

Sentence details: Convicted at Yorkshire, Beverley General Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years.
Vessel: Corona.
Date of Departure: 13 October 1866.
Place of Arrival: Western Australia.


Freemantle Prison data... Western Australia ( Birth date could be an error? )
COLLINS, George
Convict No 9126
Ship Name: Corona
Ship Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1866
Birth Year: 1824?
Literacy lit
Religion: RC
Sentence Place: Beverley
Length of Sentence: 10yrs
Crime: larceny

T.O.L ...Ticket of Leave Date: 18 Apr 1872
C.F...Certified Freedom Date 8 Jun 1876
Certified Freedom Place: York ( Western Australia )
Comments: General servant, worked for self 1875


There were 67 deaths for a George COLLINS in Australia up to 1900

The only George COLLINS deaths i can find in Western Australia were.( Given that age is incorrect )

COLLINS, George CD 169808 Death
Age at Death: 45
Reg Year: 1876
Reg State: Western Australia
Ref Number: 8919

The other was in 1908, but this would make him 109 years old when he died? ( if born 1799 )
COLLINS GEORGE Male District: YORK ( Western Australia ).... Reg No: 15.....Year: 1908


The only other death that comes close, given his birth was 1799.... was in the state of Tasmania.
COLLINS, George CD 169799 Death
Sex: Male
Age at Death: 70
Death Date: 08 Mar 1870
Reg Year: 1870
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 169




Tony.

Hi Sue.


Cant see a Thomas PALMER transported to "Australia" ( Tried 1847. at Leicester Boro Sessions )

14 of Thomas PALMER's transported to Australia

Below are "Thomas PALMER" transported to "Australia" after 1840....the rest were transported before 1835

1846
Thomas Palmer, one of 300 convicts transported on the Lady Palmira [Palmyra], 04 March 1846. .....Sentence details: Convicted at Salop. Shrewsbury Quarter.

1852
Thomas Palmer, one of 290 convicts transported on the Lady Montagu, 31 July 1852.
Sentence details: Convicted at Norfolk. Norwich Quarter

1853
Thomas Palmer, one of 304 convicts transported on the Sea Park, 30 December 1853.
Sentence details: Convicted at Staffordshire. Stafford Assizes for a term of 10 years.

1844
Thomas Buryman Palmer, one of 322 convicts transported on the Barossa, 09 May 1844.
Sentence details: Convicted at Devon Assizes for a term of 10 years.



Tony

hi tony.
thank you for all your time and the infomation you have given over george collins.
it will be of great help.
best regards.
lisa.

Thanks for looking tony
regards sue

Hi Tony,
I have a West Barnes in my tree and the family story goes that he was transported to austrailia in 1843. He was married to Mary ann Martin .He was born 1791/2 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England.,Any info would be greatly recieved
thanks Trevor

Hi Trevor.

This is the only information i can find on West BARNES.

West Barnes, one of 199 convicts transported on the Maitland, 26 August 1843.

Sentence details: Convicted 4th March 1843 at Lincoln Assizes for a term of.... life.
Vessel: Maitland.
Date of Departure: 26 August 1843.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales and Norfolk Island.
Ref: Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/13, Page Number 400



Tasmanian Archives
Item Number: CON33/1/76

Convict Details:

Barnes, West
Convict No: 3093
Married.
Transported for: Assulting his wife with intent.
Surgeon Report:.... Unsound mind.
Voyage Ship: Maitland
Voyage No: 364
Arrival Date: 08 Feb 1844
Departure Date: 26 Aug 1843
Departure Port: Plymouth

Written on Surgeons report.... "Commutation"
Meaning: The change of a penalty or punishment by the pardoning power of the State; as, the commutation of a sentence of death to banishment or imprisonment.


Muster of Norfolk Island - August 1844
Period of Labor 30 months
Station of Gang: Norfolk Island
Remarks: Disharged to Lunatic assylum..Sydney ( date not given )
2nd condition...8th Aug 1849
Remarks: Filed with death report. ( date not given )

This asylum could be Parramatta or Tarban Creek Asylum ( Sydney )

Interesting info on Surgeons report under "Remarks" ( Filed with death report )...so it appears he was deceased not long after 1849.?

Cant see a death for him registered in N.S.W.....but there would be many hundreds if not more, of unregistered deaths of convicts, and unmarked graves.



For further checking or enquirey you could try: N.S.W State Archives.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

For more information about "Norfolk Island" ( Penal Colony ) see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_Island



Tony

Thank you Tony,
that interesting seems its true then il have to do abit more digging !!
regards Trevor

n

Hi Tony,
Have you any information on Joseph Stanwix son of Joseph and Mary Stanwix born 1813 in Liverpool. Surname sometimes Stanwick.
He was transported to Australia I think in 1840.
Regards Mary

Hi Mary.

This is what details i can find on a Joseph Stanwick/Stanwix.

Joseph Stanwick, one of 276 convicts transported on the Asia, 25 April 1840.
Tried: 22 July 1839

Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster, Liverpool Quarter Sessions for a term of 15 years.
Vessel: Asia.
Date of Departure: 25 April 1840.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land ( Tasmania )


Tasmanian Archives: "Convicts"
Joseph Stanwick Arr: 06 Aug 1840... Ship: Asia (5)... Dept date: 27 Apr 1840... Port: London

Surgeon Report:Hulk report, Good,General conduct orderly.
Convict No: 67223
Stanwick, Joseph
Gaol report: Once convicted, twice imprisoned.
Transported for stealing,assault,and 8 shillings from person.Once for stealing Indigo 12 months, assault,again for coffee, 5 and 14days.
Sentence:15 years
Religion: Protestant
Can read and write
Single
Occ: Labourer carter.
Height: 5ft 8in
Age:23
Hair: Dark brown
Whiskers: Dark brown
Eyes: Blue
Eyebrows: Dark brown
Mouth: Small
Chin: Large
Nose: Large
Native place: Liverpool



Remarks:
Period of Probation: 2 years 4 months
Station of Gang: Prisoners Barracks 11Nov 1841....7th Dec 1842
T.L ( Ticket of Leave )....17th Nov 1846
Applied C.P ( Conditional Pardon )...4th Jan 1848
Approved C.P ....30th Jan 1849
C.F ( Cert Freedom ).....2nd Aug 1854 Launceston


Tasmania BDM Index. ( 1829 to 1900 )
Cant find a marriage or death for a Joseph STANWICK


Re Surname: STANWIX ( Tasmania )

Possible Marriage:
STANWIX, Joseph CM 926396
Age:40 Marriage
Spouse: CALLAGHAN, Catherine
Age: 18
Marriage Date: 18 Aug 1856
Reg Year: 1856
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 654
On the 18th August 1856 St Josephs Catholic Church, Launceston, Tasmania

Possible Death Tasmania:
STANWIX, Joseph CD 841365 Death
Sex: Male
Age at Death: 72
Death Date: 12 Sep 1887
Reg Year: 1887
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 343



Births Tasmania: STANWIX to Joseph and Catherine

STANWIX, F CB 1948610 Birth
Sex: Female
Father: Joseph
Mother: Callaghan Catherine
Event Date: 18 May 1857
Reg Year: 1857
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 1037

STANWIX, Joseph Albert CB 1948619 Birth
Sex: Male
Father: Joseph
Mother: Callaghan Catherine
Event Date: 09 Nov 1861
Reg Year: 1861
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 451

STANWIX, John Kell CB 1948618 Birth
Sex: Male
Father: Joseph
Mother: Callaghan Catherine
Event Date: 15 Jun 1870
Reg Year: 1870
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 67

STANWIX, Catherine Ann Eliza CB 1948608 Birth
Sex: Female
Father: Joseph
Mother: Catherine Ocallaghan
Event Date: 24 Oct 1873
Reg Year: 1873
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 1501

STANWIX, Alice Maud CB 1948607 Birth
Sex: Female
Father: Joseph
Mother: Callaghan Catherine
Event Date: 26 Jun 1876
Reg Year: 1876
Reg State: Tasmania
Ref Number: 2504

Just to add:
There are decendants from Joseph Stanwix/Stanwick ( convict ) and decendant from his son Joseph Albert Stanwix b.1861....... living in Victoria

Tony

Hi Tony,
Thank you so much for your time in providing me with all this information.
With Kind Regards
Mary

n

Hi Tony,

I would be grateful if you are able to tell me any more about the following.

Also how do I obtain the ceath cert for him. Did he marry in Oz. If so when.

Any additional information you can provide will be gratefully received.

Charles HOWES
Occupation: Farmer/miner
Birth Town: Banham
Region, : Norfolk
Country: England
Date: 1799

Death Details
Death Town: Ballarat East
Death State: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1876

Immigration Details
Port Landed: Hobart
Ship: Guildford
Year Arrived: 1820

He married Sarah Kempton who died in 1864, same venue as Charles.

Many Thanks

Fi

Hi Fi.

These are the only written and registered details i can find on Charles HOWES.

Charles Howes, one of 190 convicts transported on the Guildford, 12 May 1820.


Sentence details: Convicted at Norfolk Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 23 February 1820.
Vessel: Guildford
Date of Departure: 12 May 1820.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land ( Tasmania )

Convict No: 34535
Departure Port: Portsmouth
Departure Date: 14 May 1820
Arrival Date: 28 Oct 1820

Notes conduct report:
Sept 17th 1820 Temporary absent from muster & church on sunday last.
Feb 19th 1830 Harbouring Robt. Bilney an assigned servant to Mr. Gunning on the 6th - inst.....Dismissed

Tasmania Census/Muster..Year 1842.. HOWES Charles... District. Brighton...Ref:CEN1/1/5 39 ..page: 39

Cant find any CP or AP....( Pardons ) or Ticket of Leaves..?

Marriages Tasmania:....One only marriage showing for a Charles HOWES
HOWES, CHARLES
Gender: Male
Marriage/Relationship: 12th Jan 1834 - District: GREEN PONDS,Tasmania
Spouse: PASHLEY Mary
Reg No:2688
RGD No:36


Tasmania Convict transportee's shows one:
Mary Pashley, one of 190 convicts transported on the America, 30 December 1830.

Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster Quarter Session for a term of life.
Vessel: America.
Date of Departure: 30 December 1830.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land

Death Tasmania:
PASHLEY, MARY
Gender: Female
Birth 1806
Death: 1859 - District:NEW NORFOLK,Tasmania



Tasmania BDM index
Cant see any childrens births in Tasmania to a Charles HOWES & Mary PASHLEY




Two Passengers leaving Tasmania, heading for Melbourne, Victoria. ( Charles HOWES Jnr. & Ann HOWES )
Details:
Howes Ann, Cabin Passenger Ship: Olinda 1 Sep 1852 Dept Port: Hobart Town ...Where Bound: Melbourne CUS36/1/404
Howes Charles *Junior*, Steerage Passenger Ship: Olinda 1 Sep 1852 Dept Port:Hobart Town ...Where Bound:Melbourne CUS36/1/404




Two Charles HOWES deaths in Victoria

HOWES, Charles CD 420887 Death
Father: Charles
Mother: Eliza
Age at Death: 76
Birthplace: Norw
Reg Year: 1876
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 213

HOWES, Charles CD 420889 Death
Father: James
Mother: Saunders Maria
Age at Death: UNK
Birthplace: Unknown
Reg Year: 1877
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 2405


Cannot find any marriage registered to a Sarah KEMPTON.... on Tasmanian or Victoria Pioneer BDMs.......... or any other state in Australia, so i'm not sure where you got these details from...??


To order BDM's for the state of Victoria.
Death certs, should give you any marriages, and normally names of any children ( Living or deceased at the time ) Victorian BDM's can be downloaded to your computer ( Via Credit card ) using Ref Number of deceased

VICTORIA..... B.D.M's Enquire: ( see Births, Deaths and Marriages )
http://www.justice.vic.gov.au/


For Tasmania...BDM's
http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/bdm/



Tony ( Victoria )

On looking at a database I have for this line, I see that Sarah KEMPTON was his 2nd wife and Mary Pashley was his 1st wife.

This I expect is my Charles' death:

HOWES, Charles CD 420887 Death
Father: Charles
Mother: Eliza
Age at Death: 76
Birthplace: Norw
Reg Year: 1876
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 213

but his mother is noted at Eliza and not Ann. Maybe he father married twice also. I will look it up this end.

I am not sure where Ann fits in because she was this Charles's mother. Charles' father and a son were called Charles. His parents were not in Oz but his son was born there in 1835, the mother being Sarah Kempton. There is no other Ann it could be.


Anyway Thank you so much for all the information it is very much appreciated. It is amazing what you can discover.

Regards

Fi