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Anne

Anne Report 10 May 2010 00:41

JUSTINE
Whats the age of the eldest child?
Would it be possible for a marriage in 1815?
I can see them on the 1841 census with the oldest child there being 14.So marriage before 1827
Will look for that childs baptism, might give me a clue.
The good thing is that he wasnt non conformist, have checked their records.
Which records are you missing?
So many questions LOL
Regards
Anne

Justine

Justine Report 10 May 2010 07:53

Thank you Anne. I believe Lucy Maria was their eldest child. So it could be possible that they married in 1815.
I have only just got back to Lucy she was my GG Grandmother. So I would love to find out more about her parents. I will pm you my email address, if you would be so kind to send me any info that you may have found, when you have the time.

Many thanks.

Justine.

1. HENRY WILLIAM BOYCE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 MAY 1824 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England

2. LUCY MARIA BOYCE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 JUL 1816 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England

Parents Thomas and Elizabeth.

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 10 May 2010 09:44


Hi Anne

If possible please could you see if there is a birth for Ernestine Smyth/e 1857/8, on all census records she is shown born Greenwich Woolwich but no sign of birth reg. on BMD. Her mother was Susannah nee McElroy, father was Thomas Henry Smyth/e RA Bandmaster who's brother James was also a RA Bandmaster and his wife was Ernestine.

Thomas and Susannah had 9 children in total and I have found all births reg except Ernestine, some in Ireland others England. Such a mystery why only one not reg.

Thank you

Frances

Debbie

Debbie Report 10 May 2010 11:14

Hi Ann

Thank you for looking for my Tampion family , John Warren was from Copsford Essex and wife Ann ( nee Andrews ) born Rendham Suffolk .

Her Father was called Moses Andrews , thats why i asked for any info on John Moses Andrews . They also had another daughter Violet Maud , and she was born at Mottingham in 1880 .

Could you please try and find her baptism , if that is alright with you . Im not aware of any Tampions at Deptford , were they also from Essex . Ive tried looking on Ancestry , but there isnt much that comes up for Lewisham or Greenwich .

Best wishes

Debbie

Ann

Ann Report 10 May 2010 17:40

Hi Anne,
YES you found them!! i cannot believe it, so they were living at 50 Woolwich Rd Greenwich,{Norris family} my goodness that is amazing Anne thank you so very much.
Anne could you send me the information that you found {thats if you do not mind} .
Again many many thanks Anne,
kind regards Ann.

Anne

Anne Report 10 May 2010 21:13

JUSTINE
Justine I have emailed you what I have found.
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 10 May 2010 21:34

JUSTINE
You should now have all the copies of the records that I can find.
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 10 May 2010 21:48

FRANCIS
I am looking for you now, will come back when I have info for you.
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 10 May 2010 22:00

FRANCIS
Which census does she first appear on, I have found her on the 1891, but does she appear on the 1861 census?
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 10 May 2010 23:39

Could I ask people not to delete threads on here, on going back I still have notes for some findings, and when I have come back here they have deleted my work!!
I spend hours reading through microfiche and scrolling through discs so please dont delete!
Anne

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 11 May 2010 01:45

Hi Anne

Re Ernestine Smyth/e, yes she is on the 1881 census and 1891 census under her married name of Marsh at Manchester Lancs. I have her marriage cert. for 1877 but no where can I find her birth cert.
I wondered whether perhaps it was on military births/baptism seeing her father was Bandmaster in RA.

Ernestine Smyth/e her Aunt is on the 1871, 1881, 1891 census at Greenwich and she is buried with her husband James at Charlton Cemetary Greenwich.

Thanks your doing a marvellous service by the way, hope above helps.
Frances

Anne

Anne Report 11 May 2010 14:00

Amokavid
Thanks, Im new to this kind of forum, it was simply that I had some extra info, thought thta they might like it, went to add it and the message had gone and I couldnt remember which person had asked for it, it was that simple. Of course they can delete when they like, it is their perogative. It was because they where pleased that I searched another generation for them.
Regards
Anne

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 12 May 2010 00:22


Nudge

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 13 May 2010 08:31

Nudge

Anne

Anne Report 13 May 2010 17:59

FOREVER MYSTIFIED
Ernestyne is not registered with the Forces Births I have checked. I was trying to locate other family members on say teh 1861 census to get their movements, and to try and find what regiment he was in. Once I could find that out, it may be easier to trace where Ernestine was registered.
Regards
Anne

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 13 May 2010 18:32

Anne thanks for your efforts, Ernestines father was in the Royal Artillery Marines from what I can gather, he was bandmaster Thomas Henry Smyth/e.

I have found quite alot of info about the band etc via google but not her birth cert. I much prefer if possible to verify with certs any info before putting it on my tree.

Thanks again

Frances
PS I think his wife may have gone back to Ireland between 1860 and my grt grandfather being born in Secombe Cheshire in 1873, because census show 4 children born Ireland.

Anne

Anne Report 13 May 2010 22:46

Forever Mystified
This is just a wild thought, but could it be possible that she was born in Woolwich Canada?
Far fetched I agree, but on the 1881 census it just says Woolwich.....
MMM I have just found this
http://www.royalmarinesbands.co.uk/history/Sea_Soldiers.htm
So highly unlikely.
Firmly puts Thomas in Woolwich in 1857/8
This is a mystery, let me keep searching
Regards
Anne

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 14 May 2010 01:31

Anne thats fine thanks, such a mystery because all other children have births registered.

Seeing that article made me sure I would find her birth /baptism there. Thanks for your efforts.

Frances

Anne

Anne Report 14 May 2010 21:35

forevermystified
I have now checked the Irish records, and managed to find Leopolds baptism
LEOPOLD SAMUEL 1859 CO.ROSCOMMON
Its a pay to view, and unfortunately i have run out of credit on this site.
I will send you the link if you like. Unfortunately still no sign of little Ernestine.
Regards
Anne

ForeverMystified

ForeverMystified Report 15 May 2010 11:01

Hi Anne thank you for all your hard work, would love the link re baptism for Leopold if you dont mind.

Forever Grateful to you.

Frances