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Emma Report 20 May 2010 13:49


I can't find a marriage for a John Cowans & Isabel Smith anywhere in Scotland. Do you know where abouts they were born roughly? I may be able to look up a birth in that area n then you may be able to try and tie it in with childrens names etc



val1963 Report 20 May 2010 14:55


This is what I have

John Cowans m Isabel Smith 19th July 1776
at Gateshaw Associate Session, Morebattle,Roxburgh,Scotland.

their children were all baptised at
Gateshaw Associate Session, Morebattle,Roxburgh.Scotland.

James b1777, Robert b1778, Jean b1780
Mary b1782, Hector b1784, Isabel b1787
(gggfather)John b1789

thanks for your help


Valerie Report 20 May 2010 15:24

hi emma,

please could you look up a jane beaton/beeton born banffshire abt 1889 her father was archibald beaton/beeton a watchman.
i no of her 2 marriages in lancashire area
sorry this is the only information i have



Pammy51 Report 20 May 2010 15:39

Thank you very much for looking, Emma.
Perhaps William and Sarah didn't get married at all!!!!
Their second child was called Mary so I think you are right that the first William is probably the right one.
Thanks again


Emma Report 20 May 2010 17:31


I'm hitting a brick wall with the marriage unfortunately ..

If Isabel Smith was born in the Roxburgh area .. The births around that time were ....

Isabel Smith
29 January 1744
Father - John Smith
Mother - Margaret Dryden
Wilton - Roxburgh

Isabel Smith
10 November 1751
Father - John Smith
No mother given
Minto - Roxburgh

Isabel Smith
19 September 1755
Father - James Smith
No mother given
Kirkton - Roxburgh

Isabel Smith
22 February 1756
Father - Andrew Smith
No mother given
Ancrum - Roxburgh

Isabell Smith
27 April 1746
Father - Andrew Smith
No mother given
Ancrum - Roxburgh

Isabell Smith
12 April 1752
Father - Jeremiah Smith
Mother - Isabell
Kelso - Roxburgh




Emma Report 20 May 2010 17:34


Can you tell me who she married? Just so its a little easier when looking .. I've got something to go on if I'm looking for a death




TootyFruity Report 20 May 2010 21:33

Hi Emma

thank you for your kind offer. I am looking for a marriage and/or a death of Mary McNaught born 1 Aug 1887. Her father was John McNaught (a policeman) who would be deceased at the time of any marriage. He died when Marywas very young. Her mother was Sarah(maiden name Conroy). Sarah could have remarried by the time of any marriage and her name was Gow or Hyslop.

Any help much appreciated.



AnnCardiff Report 20 May 2010 22:15

Hi Emma - wonder if you would be able to find anything on John Cameron who married Ann Dickson in Advie, Elgin in 1822 - would be most appreciativee of your help here



Emma Report 20 May 2010 22:42


I have found the death for Mary

Mary McNaught
8 January 1903
4h AM
29 Carstairs Road, Glasgow
15 Years
Father - John McNaught - Upholsterer (Journeyman) (deceased)
Mother - Sarah- Jane Gow previously McNaught m/s Conroy
Cause of death - Hip Joint Disease - 9 months
Registered by ____ Gow - Step Father (present)
Registered on 9 January 1903 at Glasgow

Do you have a death of Sarah or would you like me to look it up ?



TootyFruity Report 20 May 2010 23:10

Thank you so much Emma very much appreciated. I have Sarah's death thank you.

If you don't think I'm being too cheeky, if I PM you my email would you mind sending me a copy of the death.

Thank you again



Emma Report 20 May 2010 23:27


There is a marriage ...

Marriage of John Cameron & Ann Dickson
25th July 1822
Cromdale & Inverallan - Moray

On the marriage parish it looks like daughter of John Dickson but it's not very clear

I was looking at deaths for John Cameron in the same area and the only one that it may have been was ..

John Cameron
3 November 1858
8h AM
Mains of Tulloch
51 Years Old
Father - Donald Cameron - Farmer (deceased)
Mother - Jane Cameron m/s Smith
Cause of death - Enteritis 6days
Buried in the Churchyard of Kincadine
Registered by Lewis Cook - Sub-Inspector of Poor
Registered on 9th November 1858

Is there any chance you know if they stayed in the Moray area?

You may be able to match up their kids names with their parents names to get a definate - usually they just used the same names over and over throughout the family.

Had a quick look at births for a John Cameron & Ann Dickson ...

Ann Cameron
28 July 1822
Father - John Cameron
Mother - Ann Dickson

John Cameron *twin i'm guessing*
20 October 1825
Father - John Cameron
Mother - Ann Dickson

Marjory Cameron *twin i'm guessing*
20 October 1825
Father - John Cameron
Mother - Ann Dickson

There is other children - but i'm not sure these are related because there's 1 child - Margaret - that was born on the 20th october 1825 too and would be a triplet of Marjory and John but she was registered in a different parish .. so highly doubtful but they are ...

Margaret Cameron
20 October 1825
Father - John Cameron
Mother - Ann Dickson

Elizabeth Cameron
30 January 1828
Father - John Cameron
Mother - Ann Dickson

James Cameron
21 July 1834
Father - John Cameron
Mother - Ann Dickson

Births around 1800 - 1810 for a Ann Dickson ...

Looking as John as the father's name

Ann Dickson
10 May 1801
Father - John Dickson
Mother - Christian Riddle

Ann MacDougall Dickson
17 June 1804
Father - John Dickson
Mother - Barbara Elder

Ann Dickson
7 November 1802
Father - John Dickson
No mother's name given

Anne Dickson
18 January 1807
Father - John Dickson
Mother - Janet Bairnsfather

Anne Dickson
22 March 1807
Father - John Dickson
Mother - Elspeth Henry

Not sure if any of this will help .. give me a shout if you want anything in more detail or anything else looked up .. You may be able to fit it in with some of the information you have so far?



Emma Report 20 May 2010 23:28


Yeah that's fine .. I'll go get it just now for you



TootyFruity Report 20 May 2010 23:31

Thanks Emma

just PM you



AnnCardiff Report 20 May 2010 23:51

Emma - you are a star!!!! thank you so very much - I shall pass this on to a very grateful friend - he will be over the moon

many thanks once again for your kindness = much appreciated

Ann X


Anne-Marie Report 21 May 2010 06:42

Hi Emma,

Many thanks for your generous offer.

Births/baptisms for children of John McGuire and Ann Clarke in Dundee from 1872 when they were married.



Alison Report 21 May 2010 09:05

Hi Emma,

Not sure if this is still open and not sure if you can help.

I am looking for the daeth off a James king between 1871-1881.

This is him in 1871 census

1871 Scotland Census

Name: James King
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Barony, Lanark
Registration Number: 622/3
Registration district: Shettleston
Civil parish: Shettleston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 7 Main St (back Sq)
Occupation: Collin (umfit Forermal)
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 12
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_117

James King 42
In 1881 his wife is living at 50 Main st Tollcross she is a widow. MS Agnes Anderson born 1829 Tollcross
His parents should be Henry & Elizabeth

I would have thought that his death would have been in this area.
I have looked at this below and it his not him.And no other deaths in the area they are living.


The last child born Peter c1873 Tollcross.

I am hoping that the name king hasn't been mispelt being Kane kean.

Thanking you



AnnCardiff Report 21 May 2010 09:39

me again Emma!!! [sorry] Message from my friend

Grateful thanks to Emma please pass on my gratitude. Bit "confused" (not hard I know) will have to search out locations when I get up there, I have a Margaret born 11/9/1829 to John & Anne whose siblings were Alexander b 3/12/1831, Elizabeth b 27/1/1828, Ann b 11/5/1822, John and twin Marjory b 15/10/1925
Ann, John & Marjory were born in Advie, the otherthree were born in Keith Banff so some things link but others a bit "grey" mind you perhaps thats where I get my grey hair from!!
The mother Ann(e) Dickson I had as born 2/1/1802 with siblings Margaret b 9/91805, and Elizabeth b 4/2/1808. There parents were a Luke Dickson and a Margaret Cameron which may be wrong as I was given this info back in 1988!!

He's on his way to Scotland this afternoon and taking laptop with him - he's keen I'll say that for him - so if you can come up with anything else I can pass it on - please donlt feel obliged to in any way - you have given so much time already

Ann X


Ann Report 21 May 2010 09:39

Hello Emma
Thanks for kind offer. Hope I can explain this without it being too confusing, don't want to waste your time!
On Family Search, extracted records I have William Bissett married Isabella ( or Isabel) Forbes at St Nicholas Aberdeen 1801. Have children that correspond to this.
I then found a Euphemia Bisset b 1787 St Nicholas Aberdeen in 1787 to William Bisset and Isabel Forbes.Also extracted.
I havent seen the marriage cert for William and Isabel so don't know their ages.
It seems unlikely that this couple would have a child that long before marriage and still have more until 1807, which I have found.
But it also seems unlikely that there is another couple with exactly the same names! A transciption error maybe.
Sorry this is so long. Thanks for your time.


John Report 21 May 2010 10:05

Thank you Emma let me digest all of that see how it fits in. Much appreciated John


val1963 Report 21 May 2010 13:54


Thank you for your help
Looking at the names of the father's for the Isabel Smith's
you have found and the fact that family's tend to use the sames names for the next generation's, I think it could be either James or John.

I appreciate the help you given me