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TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 21 May 2010 18:04

Hi Emma

I have been looking through my records for loose ends and wonder if you could look for marriage and death for

John Carruthers born Ludlow Shropshire his father was John Carruthers who died in 1857 and his mother was Elizabeth Yates. I have him on the 1851 census. He was raised in Troqueer and he is mentioned in his aunts will in 1871.

If I am not being to cheeky I am also looking for the same information about his sister Agnes Annie Carruthers. She was born on 28 Sept 1855. Agnes appears with her mother on 1871 census in Dumfries. Out of 13 siblings these are the only 2 I am having trouble with.

Any help is very much appreciated

Barbara

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 18:20

(Findingmypast)

Sorry the dates you have given me are too recent to actually see online. You would need to go into Register House in Edinburgh to see that.

Births need to be at least 100 years old
Marriages need to be at least 75 years old
Deaths 50 years old

Sorry

Emma

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 May 2010 18:45

hope you donlt mind me putting this on here Emma

1881

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Husband's Name
John FORBES (AFN:1TKF-R6H) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1775 Place: , , Aberdeen, Scotland
Died: Place: , , Aberdeen, Scotland
Married: Place: , , Aberdeen, Scotland

Father: John FORBES (AFN:1TKF-R3V) Family
Mother:

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Wife's Name
Mary FORBES (AFN:1TKF-R94) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1751 Place: , , Aberdeen, Scotland
Married: Place: , , Aberdeen, Scotland

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M Alexander FORBES (AFN:1TKF-R59) Pedigree

Born: Feb 1773 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christened: 15 Feb 1773 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland

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2. Sex Name
M John FORBES (AFN:1TKF-QN7) Pedigree

Born: Feb 1775 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christened: 20 Feb 1775 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Died: 22 Mar 1855 Place: Upper Ruthven, Logie-Coldstone, Aberdeen, Scotland
Buried: Place: , Logie-Coldstone, Aberdeen, Scotland

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3. Sex Name
M William FORBES (AFN:1TKF-RCJ) Pedigree

Born: Feb 1780 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christened: 4 Feb 1780 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland

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4. Sex Name
F Isabel FORBES (AFN:1TKF-RDQ) Pedigree

Born: Jul 1781 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christened: 16 Jul 1781 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland

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5. Sex Name
F Anne FORBES (AFN:1TKF-RBB) Pedigree

Born: Aug 1778 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christened: 24 Aug 1778 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland

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6. Sex Name
F Margaret FORBES (AFN:1TKF-R7P) Pedigree

Born: Dec 1776 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Christened: 27 Dec 1776 Place: Bluefold, Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland

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Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 19:06

Anne-Marie

Marriage..

15 July 1872
at St Joseph's Chapel, Dundee
After Banns according to the forms of the Roman Catholic Church.
John McGuire - Iron Dresser (Bachelor) - 23 Years
45 Blackness Road, Dundee
Father - Arthur McGuire - Light Porter
Mother - Bridget McGuire m/s Sullivan (deceased)
Ann Clarke - Powerloom Weaver (Spinster) - 22 Years
52 Blackness Road, Dundee
Father - Connelius Clarke - Police Officer (deceased)
Mother - Elizabeth Clarke m/s Dunlevy? (deceased)
Witnesses - James Corrigan & Anne Lackey
Registered on 8th July 1872
ST PETER - DUNDEE

Think I may have found them on the 1881 Census
Always better to find them on the census' first & then you know roughly the names of children ...

1881 Census
28 Hinshall Street, Hilgouns Close, Dundee
John McGuire - Head - mar - 32 - Butcher - Dundee
Ann Clark - Wife - mar - 29 - Housekeeper - Edinburgh
Patrick McGuire - Son - 6 - Scholar - Dundee
Arthur McGuire - Son - 3 - Dundee
Mary Theresa McGuire - Dau - 1 - Dundee
John Russell - Boarder - 13 - Millworker Oiler? - Ireland

Death of John McGuire
John McGuire - Master Butcher
(married to 1st Ann Clark 2nd Ann Bradley or McNally)
29 November 1931
10h 45m AM
Wellham House
Usual Residence - 26 Ealdum Street. Dundee?
81 Years
Father - Ann McGuire - Drafters Porter (deceased)
Mother - Bridget McGuire m./s Sullivan (deceased)
Cause of Death - Gastrio Upso........ (can't make rest out)
Reg by Ann McGuire (Widow) - 19 Elizabeth Street, Dundee
Registered on 30th November 1931
LOCHEE - DUNDEE

Death of Ann McGuire
Ann McGuire
(married to John McGuire - Iron Dresser)
29 March 1901
9h 55m PM
41 Kincardine Street, Dundee
48 Years
Father - Cornelius Clark - Police Sergent (deceased)
Mother - Elizabeth Clark m/s Dunlevy (deceased)
Cause of Death - Concussion of the Brain - 6 days
Reg by John McGuire (widower)
Reg on 1 April 1901
ST PETER - DUNDEE

Some of the births ...

Arthur McGuire
30 April 1878
4h 0m PM
2 Blinshall Street, Dundee
Father - John McGuire - Butcher
Mother - Ann McGuire m/s Clark
Registered by John McGuire (father)
ST MARY - DUNDEE

Mary - Teresa McGuire
28 February 1880
9h 0m PM
2 Blinshall Street, Dundee
Father - John McGuire - Butcher
Mother - Ann McGuire m/s Clark
Registered by John McGuire (father)
ST MARY - DUNDEE

Patrick McGuire
15 March 1875
5h 0m AM
14 Blackness Road, Dundee
Father - John McGuire - Butcher
Mother - Ann McGuire m/s Clark
Registered by John McGuire (father)
ST MARY - DUNDEE

1901 Census
41 Kincardine Street, Dundee
John McGuire - Head - Wid - 54 - Iron Dresser - Dundee
Patrick McGuire - Son - 26 - Baker - Dundee
Mary McGuire - Dau - 18 - ___ Spinner - Dundee
John McGuire - Son - 14 - Millworker - Dundee
Arthur McGuire - Son - 22 - Ca_____ Labouerer - Dundee

Arthur McGuire
21 April 1873
1h 30m PM
Hillstack Land, Blackness Road, Dundee
Father - John McGuire - Butcher
Mother - Ann McGuire m/s Clark
Registered by John McGuire (father)
ST PETER - DUNDEE

John McGuire
10 January 1887
7h 45m AM
5 Kincardine Street, Dundee
Father - John McGuire - Butcher
Mother - Ann McGuire m/s Clark
Registered by John McGuire (father)
ST PETER - DUNDEE

I'm not sure if you have their marriage & deaths but it may be useful.

Emma

Ann

Ann Report 21 May 2010 19:45

Thank you Ann of Green Gables

Rosey

Rosey Report 21 May 2010 19:46

Hello Emma

I am looking for a Ann sometimes known as Agnes McPherson born c1824 Greenock, Scotland. Her father is a Peter McPherson occ. Cutler born Scotland marr. to a Jane. Ann marr. to Archie Patterson is on 1851 census living in Limehouse, Middx. area, also marr. same area. Her father and Jane also living St. George in the East, London according to 1841 & 1851 cenus. Thanks for the offer

Anne-Marie

Anne-Marie Report 21 May 2010 20:04

Hi Emma,

Fantastic - thank you so much for all your time spent searching.
All I had was the date of marriage with no background info, everything you sent has been new to me.

Now to put it on to my tree, and study it :-))

Thank you
Regards
Anne-Marie

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 21:10

Alison,

I've looked at all the deaths between 1871 and 1881 and can't seem to find anything? - I'll have a look on ancestry to see if there's anyone on there who has him that may have a hint as to where he died

Sorry

Emma

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 21:34

Ann,

I have done a quick search for a marriage between a William Bisset and a Forbes between 1770 and 1854 a wide range I know but I thought I may aswell .. the results are ..

William Bisset
Isabel Forbes
31 March 1777
NIGG (KINCADINE) - KINCARDINE

William Bisset
Christian Forbes
20 November 1824
AUCHTERMUCHTY - FIFE

William Bisset
Christian Forbes
13 January 1825

I can't seem to find a marriage on ScotlandsPeople in the Aberdeen area.

I've had a look on ancestry - and although i don't have a full subscription anymore I can still see a little information - there is someone on there that had an Isabel Forbes that married a William Bisset in the Aberdeen area although I can't see the date. They don't have parents for either William or Isabel but they do have that Isabel was born in 1785 and William was born in 1785 too.

Hope this was a little helpful although my search has not been too successful. I know how it feels though, I was looking for an ancester and I had exactly the right person I was looking for .. name and parents but when I looked up the birth it was in the 1600's instead of the 1700's which threw me a little.

Keep going tho! You will get there in the end.

Emma

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 21:35

I got this off a website and I found it quite usefull when I was searching my family tree ..

First son is named for the Father's Father.
Second son is named for the Mother's Father.
Third son is named for the Father's Father's Father.
Fourth son is named for the Mother's Mother's Father.
Fifth son is named for the Father's Mother's Father.
Sixth son is named for the Mother's Father's Father.
Seventh through Tenth sons are named for the Father's Great-Grandfathers.
Tenth through Fourteenth sons for the Mother's Great-Grandfathers.

First daughter is named for the Mother's Mother.
Second daughter is named for the Father's Mother.
Third daughter is named for the Mother's Father's Mother.
Fourth daughter is named for the Father's Father's Mother.
Fifth daughter is named for the Mother's Mother's Mother.
Sixth daughter is named for the Father's Mother's Mother.
Seventh through tenth daughters are named for the Mother's Great-Grandmothers.
Tenth through fourteenth daughters for the Father's Great-Grandmothers.

NOTES:

In some cases you will find that the order is reversed with the first and second children, i.e. the first-born son being named after the mother's father and the second-born son after the father's father. If this is the case then the daughters are also usually reversed.

You will also find instances where a child is named 'out of pattern', after an aunt or uncle who has died, or after an admired other relative or friend of the parent.

If a child dies in infancy, his or her name is often given to a subsequent child - a natural consequence of the high birth rate and infant mortality rates of past times.

Emma

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 21:41

Barbara,

Do you know a rough year John was born? and can you tell me where abouts his father died? Usually its close or around the same area.

Thanks

Emma

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 21 May 2010 21:50

Hi Emma

John was born 1840 and lived in Maxwell Bank House, Troqueer up to 1861. He appears in census with his mother there. His father died 4 July 1857 in Maxwell Bank House. His father was a tea merchant and later a farmer. It always tickled me that a tea merchant lived in a house with a similar name to an instant coffee:-)

Thank you so much for your help it is very much appreciated.

Barbara

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 22:04

Rosey,

I'm a little confused what you're looking for .. so i've had a look for a birth of an Ann/Agnes McPherson born in the Greenock area around about that time but there's nothing coming up.

Sorry

Emma

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 22:19

Barbara,

There are 2 deaths for a John Carruthers in the Dumfries County. 1 is a definate no but the other one has no parents.

John Carruthers
Joiner (single)
30 August 1886
8h 45m AM
______ Royal Institution
45 years
Cause of death - Epilepsy 3 years, Pneumonia 3 days
Reg by James Rutherford - _____ Superintendant
DUMFRIES


Emma

Ann

Ann Report 21 May 2010 22:20

Thank you Emma for the time and effort. Much appreciated.
Ann

Sheila

Sheila Report 21 May 2010 22:28

Many thanks for your offer.
Can you look for David Weatherhead born in Coldstream Scotland in 1846/47 (from census) please
His father was Samuel..but I dont know who is mother was.

Thank you

Sheila

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 21 May 2010 22:31

Thank you so much for looking Emma

could you please email me the cert

there I go being cheeky again

This is so very much appreciated

with the kindest of regards

Barbara

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 22:36

Barbara,

Sure it's no problem. I've looked at all the Agnes Carruther's deaths in the Dumfries area and nothing has showed anything even slightly hopeful

Sorry

Emma

Emma

Emma Report 21 May 2010 22:44

Sheila,

There is no birth for a David (or any others) Weatherhead born anywhere in Scotland around that time with a father Samuel.

Sorry

Emma

Sheila

Sheila Report 21 May 2010 23:05

Thank you for looking Emma

Regards
Sheila