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Gael Report 25 Jul 2010 09:42

Hi Heather,

Did Theodore marry a Anna Shoemaker ???

Name: Joseph Hazelman
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: Putnam, Ohio
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1890
Birthplace: Liberty Tp., Putnam, Ohio
Father's Name: Theodore Hazelman
Mother's Name: Anna Shoemaker
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C86984-9
System Origin: Ohio-VR
Source Film Number: 915768
Reference Number: v 3 p 106 cn 59
Collection: Ohio Births and Christenings, 1821-1962


Gael Report 25 Jul 2010 09:45

Hi Heather,

Mention of this Theodore in the 1920 Census, but notice he was born in Germany and also Anna???


Gael Report 25 Jul 2010 09:48

Hi Springtime,

Still nothing!!



Pam Report 25 Jul 2010 13:03

Thanks Gael for the offer. I am looking for Fook and Rosenhain. If you read the attached thread it will give you as much info as I have.

Thanks again for any help.


Gael Report 25 Jul 2010 13:11

Hi Pam,

It would be much easier if you give me the information that you require.

Would like to know what country you want me to look up in.



Pam Report 25 Jul 2010 13:39

Searching for info about Heinrich FOOK - who married
Sophia ROSENHAIN in 1850. I think in Adelaide.

Sophia Rosenhain arrived in Adelaide, South Australia in the company of her sister Maria, and brother Carl Ferdinand, on the SS Pauline out of Bremen (via Hamburg??) in Germany. They arrived in Adelaide in December 1849.

Heinrich and Sophia may have met on the ship, they may have already been married or they met in South Australia.
I think they married in Adelaide but only because of the dates.

Thanks for any help that you can provide, either to confirm in Adelaide or even better, in Germany. The only other info I have is that there is a town in Germany between Munich and Austria named Rosenhain - my family name.

Having said that, I know there was family in Leipzig too, and there was a family story that one of the relatives, perhaps Carl Ferdinand, was the locksmith and jeweller to the King of Bavaria??

Thanks for any help. P


GenieAngel Report 25 Jul 2010 21:05

Hi Gael

Thank you for looking.



Pam Report 25 Jul 2010 22:59



Heather Report 26 Jul 2010 07:25

Hello Gail,
I'm sorry you have been on a wild goose chase on my behalf. I do know of those sites. I think they belong to Civil War researchers who were very helpful to me some years ago with information on Theodore's service. In one instance, on American records, he said he was born in Luxembourg but not true as I had that checked out years ago and I guess I should have corrected it. Australian certificates say Strasbourg but can't find anything to prove that either.
Haven't been able to connect him to the Ohio ones either. You are a very diligent researcher and I thank you very much for your trouble.
regards Heather


Gael Report 26 Jul 2010 07:45

Hi Pam.

There is no marriage for Heinrich Fook or Sophia Rosenhain in Germany or any continental countries.

I've looked in all the states of Aust in case they had migrated but no marriage there.

Looked in the Australian papers and that came up blank as well.

I cannot suggest any other avenue for you to look in.

Sorry about that



angie2405 Report 26 Jul 2010 09:44

Hi Gael

GERMANY .... looking for STEGGAR [variants on the census returns show Stegga, Steckar, Sacker, Sticker, Steggor]

The information I have is very limited !

George Steggar [born c1821] and his wife Elisabeth [b1811] in Germnay [no place name shown on any census]. Their son Ambrose [later known as George] was born in Little Bolton, Lancashire in 1846. George was a Coal Miner according to the census. Couldn't find him on 1851 - on the 1861 census he was living in Coxhoe, Co Durham.

George's brother andhis family came over to England in late 1860's - they are on the 1861 Census living in North Shields, Co Durham - their details are:
Henry Steggar [c1820] born Germany
Margaret [c1827] born Germany
John William Steggar [c1856] Germany
Elizabeth Steggar [b1860] born Germany - she is shown as aged 5mnths on the 1861 census.

Many Thanks for your offer



Gael Report 26 Jul 2010 10:13

This is for ref only - just a starting point for surname???

Name: Margaret Elizabeth Stagger
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Sep 1867
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter, North Shields, Northumberland, England
Father's Name: Henry Stagger
Mother's Name: Margaret
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03258-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2193448
Reference Number: 144
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Gael Report 26 Jul 2010 11:28

Hi Angela,

Sorry, I've tried every name given and avenue I can think of and it just brings me back to England with the birth as Germany.



angie2405 Report 27 Jul 2010 01:30

Hi Gael

Thanks very much for looking for my Steggars - am not surprised really ....I can just imagine the poor Census Enumerator with his Geordie accent trying to make sense of Mr Steggar 's accent !!!! If Mr 'Steggar' couldn't spell his own name what chance did the enumerator have LOL!

I wonder if there would be any naturalisation papers ?

Many thanks


Gael Report 27 Jul 2010 02:57

Hi Angela,

I cannot help you with that question.

Put in a new posting for the family and ask if anyone can look up for naturalisation papers or give you an idea of where to look.



Sally Report 27 Jul 2010 23:43

Dear Gael,

Maybe you can help with information about my Great Grandfather?

His name was William Ludwig Frederick August Hempel and on the census record has recorded Prussia as his birth place. I do know much about him when he lived in England but nothing about his life before.

Born about 1832 the family story goes that he ran away to sea, while quite young,but other wise nothing else is known about this gentle man.

Please will you try to help, I hope this is the correct way to proceed

Yours hopefully, Sally.


Pam Report 28 Jul 2010 04:41

Thanks for looking for me.

P x


Gael Report 28 Jul 2010 06:02

Hello Sally,

Where did you get his full name from? Who did he marry? Could there have been a father's name on the marriage certificate? On Death certificate?

I cannot find anyone with all those names. I've picked out a couple of possibilities, but of course no certainty without more information.

Name: Wilhelm Ludwig Hempel
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Aug 1830
Baptism/Christening Place: Czarnikau, Posen, Preußen, Germany
Birth Date: 18 Jul 1830
Father's Name: Carl Hempel
Mother's Name: Juliane Eichstaedt:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C92628-2
System Origin: Germany-EASy
Source Film Number: 1191148
Reference Number: 65-105
Collection: Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898

Name: Wilhelm Friedrich Hempel Or Gottschalck
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Oct 1832
Father's Name: Johann Joachim Gottschalck
Mother's Name: Johanne Friedrike Hempel Or Sinnig
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C99912-2
System Origin: Germany-ODM
Source Film Number: 70168
Reference Number:
Collection: Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898



Gael Report 28 Jul 2010 06:04

You're welcome Pam. Sorry I couldn't help.



Irene Report 2 Aug 2010 17:22