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ibbotson family liverpool to yorkshire and beyond

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EVEIE

EVEIE Report 30 Jul 2010 15:53

Leonard ibbotson son vibert born 1918 liverpool
im trying to go backward from leonard but get stuck the ibbotsons are originaly a yorkshire family with viking /saxon any help gratefully recieved
ancestry im told

cagsie

cagsie Report 30 Jul 2010 16:01

have you got leonard in any census?

when and where was he born?

names of parents or siblings?

any of the above would be useful

Astra

Astra Report 30 Jul 2010 16:03

1911 census - household transcription

Person: IBBOTSON, Leonard
Address: 30 Cunard Road Litherland Lancashire

IBBOTSON, Henry Head Widower M 63 1848 Night Watchman Yorks Royston VIEW
IBBOTSON, William Son Single M 28 1883 Engine Driver Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Lillian Daughter Single F 26 1885 Housekeeper For Father Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Gordon Son Single M 24 1887 Painter Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Vibert Son Single M 23 1888 Cook Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Leonard Son Single M 21 1890 Clerk Shipping Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Dorothy Granddaughter F 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22337 Reference:
RG14PN22337 RG78PN1319 RD455 SD2 ED7 SN122

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Litherland Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Litherland


In 1915 Leonard married Catherine Hughes

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
>>Hughes Catherine A Ibbotson W. Derby 8b 1243
>>Ibbotson Leonard Hughes W.Derby 8b 1243
Kennedy Barbara Williams W.Derby 8b 1243
Williams Price G Kennedy W. Derby 8b 1243

And in 1918 he named his son Vibert!

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Ibbotson Vibert Hughes W.Derby 8b 366

cagsie

cagsie Report 30 Jul 2010 16:04

1911

IBBOTSON, Henry Head Widower M 63 1848 Night Watchman Yorks Royston VIEW
IBBOTSON, William Son Single M 28 1883 Engine Driver Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Lillian Daughter Single F 26 1885 Housekeeper For Father Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Gordon Son Single M 24 1887 Painter Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Vibert Son Single M 23 1888 Cook Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Leonard Son Single M 21 1890 Clerk Shipping Lancs Liverpool VIEW
IBBOTSON, Dorothy Granddaughter F 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22337 Reference:
RG14PN22337 RG78PN1319 RD455 SD2 ED7 SN122

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Litherland Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Litherland

Address:
30 Cunard Road Litherland Lancashire County:
Lancashire

cagsie

cagsie Report 30 Jul 2010 16:07

1891

Name: Henry Ibbotson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Royston, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Litherland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Litherland
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ibbotson 40
Harriet Ibbotson 38
Harry W Ibbotson 14
Oscar W Ibbotson 13
Fred Ibbotson 11
Willie Ibbotson 10
Lillian Ibbotson 9
Gordon Ibbotson 7
Robert Ibbotson 5
Leonard Ibbotson 1


EVEIE

EVEIE Report 30 Jul 2010 16:08

cagsie /astra thats one vibert but i couldnt find anything on him my father in law is vibert born 1918 and leonard was his dad thats all i know

Astra

Astra Report 30 Jul 2010 16:14

It is possible Jean that the Leonard listed above named his son Vibert after his brother! On the 1891 above he has been transcribed as Robert!

Astra

Astra Report 30 Jul 2010 16:21

1901


Lkeonard Ibbotson
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Hariett
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Seaforth
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaforth St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Ibbotson 52>>>>Born Chevel Yorkshire
Hariett Ibbotson 42>>>>Born Brewood Staffs
Oscar Ibbotson 23
Fred Ibbotson 20
Willie Ibbotson 19
Lilian Ibbotson 17
Gordon Ibbotson 16
>>>Bertie Ibbotson 14>>>Vibert
>>>Lkeonard Ibbotson 11>>>Leonard

Astra

Astra Report 30 Jul 2010 16:31

In 1881 Henry is a Licensed Victualler living with Harriett, son Harry born 1877 (Liverpool) and Oscar and Fred

Astra

Astra Report 30 Jul 2010 16:34

Henry and Harriet's marriage. These are your Leonard's parents.

Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
Ellis Edward W Derby 8b 504
>>IBBOTSON Henry W Derby 8b 504
Riding Louisa W.Derby 8b 504
>>Taylor Harriet W Derby 8b 504

cagsie

cagsie Report 30 Jul 2010 16:57

Name: Lillian Ibbetson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Jun 1883
Baptism/Christening Place: St Margaret's, Anfield, Liverpool, Lancs, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Ibbetson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Harriet
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15623-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1545925
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Harry Wilson Ibbotson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jan 1877
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Ibbotson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Harriet Ibbotson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00797-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1656019
Reference Number: item 4 p 4
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Oscar Ibbotson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Apr 1878
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Ibbotson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Harriet Ibbotson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00797-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1656019
Reference Number: item 4 p 31
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

cagsie

cagsie Report 30 Jul 2010 17:03

1871

Name: Henry Ibbotson
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stephen
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Chevet, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish: Walton
Town: Walton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Ibbotson 62
Mary Ibbotson 57
Stephen Ibbotson 25
Henry Ibbotson 22
Mary A Ibbotson 17
Susan Ibbotson 16
Laura J Ibbotson 14



EVEIE

EVEIE Report 30 Jul 2010 17:17

hi my leonard had a brother called vibert and did call his son vibert vibert is such a unusual name

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 30 Jul 2010 17:32

Dajean you won't find any other Viberts with a father Leonard.

Apologies if I am wrong, but perhaps you are new to researching family history.

This is the only birth of a Vibert Ibbotson, as Astra found:

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Ibbotson Vibert Hughes W.Derby 8b 366

The above tells us that his birth was registered in the June quarter of 1918 (and I see from his death entry that his date of birth 12th May), in West Derby (which was the registration district for part of Liverpool), and his mother's maiden name was Hughes. The reference numbers 8b/366 will be needed if you want to order the birth certificate.

But it's pretty certain that this is his parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
>>Hughes Catherine A Ibbotson W. Derby 8b 1243
>>Ibbotson Leonard Hughes W.Derby 8b 1243

And this is the likely death of Leonard:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Leonard Ibbotson
Name: Leonard Ibbotson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1954
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Crosby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 88

On the census records posted here, his father Henry is born Royston, Yorkshire, so that ties in with your assumption that they were originally a Yorkshire family. It all seems quite safe to me. Leonard has a brother Vibert (mistranscribed as Bertie and Robert).

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 30 Jul 2010 17:35

It's surprising how common some of these names are - there are plenty of Viberts around. I thought Saville was an unusual forename until I discovered thousands of them in Yorkshire.

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 30 Jul 2010 18:58

madmeg
my late father in law always said he was named after his dads brother so as my father in laws name was vibert we assumed virbert being his uncle

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 30 Jul 2010 19:06

Dajean, yes, that is what we have found to be the case.

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Sep 2012 09:38

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