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John Boustead - died 1802 - Cumberland

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Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Sep 2010 12:23

I have a Jane Boustead b1802
Christened along with brother James b1799 and sister Elizabeth b1796 in Whitehaven October 1802 - the same day as their father John's funeral.
(I have seen the original entry in the book)

John's widow was Elizabeth.

I have Jane's life well documented but
I can't find anything else about her parents John or Elizabeth
There is no age on the burial entry.
No maiden name for Elizabeth.
Found a marriage to Elizabeth King but no way of knowing if this is same couple.

Surname sometimes spelt Bowstead

Please can anyone help?

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Sep 2010 20:01

I am hoping that this is Elizabeth's death and that the cert will give me her age


Deaths Mar 1849

Boustead Elizabeth - Whitehaven 25 112

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jan 2011 19:43

Just tidying up loose ends.

The death cert wasn't my Elizabeth.
The one who died 1849 was a spinster.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 23:34

residence: Cumberland, England
parents: Elizabeth Bowstead

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Jane Bowstead
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 06 Oct 1802
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,WHITEHAVEN,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
mother's name: Elizabeth Bowstead
indexing project (batch) number: C02015-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 23:34

residence: Cumberland, England
parents: Elizabeth Bowstead

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: James Bowstead
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 06 Oct 1802
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,WHITEHAVEN,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
mother's name: Elizabeth Bowstead
indexing project (batch) number: C02015-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 23:36

??

residence: Stanwix, Cumberland, England
parents: John Boustead

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John Boustead
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Jun 1759
baptism/christening place: Stanwix, Cumberland, England
father's name: John Boustead
indexing project (batch) number: I03764-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 23:47

1881

Elizabeth BOUSTEAD Head W Female 70 Workington, Cumberland, England Sempstress
John W. ELAND Gr Son Male 9 Ainstable, Cumberland, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Blink Boney
Census Place Ainstable, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342242
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5146 / 7
Page Number 8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 23:48

1881

James BOUSTEAD Head M Male 63 Rickerby, Cumberland, England Scavenger
Elizabeth BOUSTEAD Wife M Female 64 Penrith, Cumberland, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Jacksons Pl
Census Place St Cuthbert W/O - Botchergate, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342243
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5154 / 111
Page Number 29

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jan 2011 23:49

ELIZABETH BOWSTEAD Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 13 AUG 1771 St Nicholas, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
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Parents:
Father: ISAAC BOWSTEAD Family
Mother: ELIZ.
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Jan 2011 23:55

So Ann o' GG -- we're looking for an Elizabeth who was a Bowstead/Boustead by marriage, mother of children born in the 1790s, so she was likely born around or after 1770 ... will you dispel my confusion and tell me how those last three posts might relate?

To Michael* -- we'll have no whining from people stuck in the mid-1700s. I'm still trying to find a grx2 grfather born around 1825!! I almost said two -- forgetting I found one just a few weeks ago. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Jan 2011 00:01

I'm seeing the same baptisms as Ann o' GG at pilot.familysearch -- James and Elizabeth plus

Name: Jane Bowstead
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Oct 1802
Baptism/Christening Place: ST NICHOLAS, WHITEHAVEN, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND
> Father's Name:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bowstead
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02015-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 962267
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


The format of all three indicates that the mother was not married.

Where is the info that she was Elizabeth wife of John Bowstead coming from?

Or do the baptism records omit the father's name because he was deceased? Reasonable to assume maybe. But is there some confirmation that the children baptised on the day John Bowstead was buried were his? Ah - she is named as his widow in the burial record?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Jan 2011 00:11

Elizabeth was a widow with young children. It's likely she would have remarried, no?

These christenings are a little odd for having the mother's full name -- almost never done when parents were married:

Name: Mary Reid
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 May 1810
Baptism/Christening Place: Carlisle-St. Mary, Cumberland, England
Father's Name: John Reid
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Boustead
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04491-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 90582
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Henry Reid
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 May 1810
Baptism/Christening Place: Carlisle-St. Mary, Cumberland, England
Father's Name: John Reid
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Boustead
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04491-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 90582
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Does the geography work at all?

Ah, but they were submitted records. "I" batch. That might explain it. In another "I" batch, a child of a Betty Boustead and a Henry Thomlinson, 1812.

Although ... was there something unusual about Cumberland? There's another couple of kids of an Elizabeth Boustead and a William Irving baptised 1805-1810. And a child to an Elizabeth Boustead and a Thomas Moorhouse, 1807 Greystoke. And those records are extracted. "C" batch.

Oh yikes, then a "Bowstead or Ingraham" child 1803, parents Betty Bowstead and John Ingraham, Greystoke, a "C" extracted batch. And a child of an Elizabeth Boustead and a John Barnfather, 1812 Lanercost, "P" extracted batch.

Either there were quite a few Elizabeth/Betty Bowsteads, or there was one very busy one. ;) And for some reason, mother's full names were recorded in parish registers of baptisms.


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Jan 2011 00:25

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

William Irvin and Elizabeth Boustead married 1804 Stanwix (Carlisle).

John Reid and Elizabeth Boustead married 1806 Stanwix.

So there do seem to have been enough Elizabeth Bousteads to go around.

I do think it quite likely that your Elizabeth remarried. Not that this helps with the question, but it would mean looking for her death under a different surname ...

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jan 2011 12:40

I've obviously missed the obvious.
It's years since I researched these people at the records office in Cumberland.
The record at the church that day included 3 Boustead baptisms (mother Elizabeth) and a burial for John Boustead (husband of Elizabeth). No age given.
I took it to be all be the same family .
I now realise it could have been Elizabeth's father or a quite unrelated John Boustead.
Doh !
I will need to look at it all again.

Always good to have fresh eyes point things out.
Thanks a lot.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Jan 2011 13:41

Actually I'd guess that your assumption was quite likely right. ;)

No idea how you'd get beyond that, though!

Pauline

Pauline Report 14 Apr 2013 23:20

I am researching my husband's family tree. His g.g.g.grandfather was Arthur Malkinson b. 1790 Cumberland married to Elizabeth Bowstead b. 1801 in Whitehaven Cumbria on 26.10.1829 in Cleator Cumbria. The christening details match those of your research. Census records show she was a dress maker, her mother Elizabeth (Betty) a `small shop keeper'. I have researched Boustead as an option, but nothing satisfactory. Will try your other suggestion and see what develops

pauline

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Apr 2013 21:01

Your Elizabeth b 1801
Mine was born 4 Jan.1796
I don't think they are a match unless you got her DOB from 1841 census which rounded the ages down

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jul 2013 12:04

I have looked at your tree on Ancestry and you seem to have the same children of my Elizabeth Boustead attached you your Elizabeth Bowstead but I'm not sure it's the same family.

Daughter Elizabeth (now Malkinson) was on 1871 census as aged 72 making her DOB c 1799

Betty Malkinson 72
Elizabeth Nathey 31
Dorthy Ann Nathey 5
William Nathey 3
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7 years later her death has age 76 giving a DOB c 1802

DEATH
Elizabeth Malkinson
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1802
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1878
Age at Death:76
Registration District:Whitehaven
Inferred County:Cumberland


My Elizabeth Boustead was born 4 January 1796 ( mother Elizabeth)
and was christening 1802 along with her brother and 2 sisters - Ann born 28 August 1793, James born 12 October 1799 and Jane born 5 April 1802

I'm not sure these children belonged to your Elizabeth Bowstead