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Looking for my grandmother Lilian Olive Holmes Bn 21 May 1875 poss Islington. Father Henry Herbert Olive Holmes Born 1842 Wendover. He married Eliza Morgan 1865 and Annie Nevitt 1887. Lilian's mother possibley married him between these dates and was Henrietta (Harriet) Isaac. I have not been able to trace this marriage.
Lilian Holmes had 2 sisters Alice and Ethel and a brother Thomas Henry Olive Holmes.
The Holmes and the Isaacs were living in Stoke Damerel in the 1861 census but there is no mention of either family in the 1871 census.
In the 1881 Census Lilian Olive is visiting her Aunt Eleanor Isaac in Middlesbrough and her sisters Alice and Ethel are living with Henry Herbert Olive Holmes as Alice and Ethal Isaac in Totternham
1991 Census , now at Islington they have changed their names to Holmes but no mention of Lilian Olive. (she may have been working in the St John's Skin Hospital in Soho)
I have records of Lilian Olive in the 1901 and 1911 censuses at Middlesbrough.
I have tried tracing the male side of the Isaacs to see if one of them was married to a Henrietta, but without success
Gill Swan

Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Holmes Henry Herbert Clive Wimborne 5a 611
Morgan Eliza Wimbourne 5a 611
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Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)
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Clarkson William Edward Islington 1b 415
Holmes Henry Olive Islington 1b 415
MAGRATH Annie Islington 1b 415
Nevitt Annie Page Islington 1b 415

For INFO.................1881

Name: Eleanor C. Isaac
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 43 Gladstone Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Machinist

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor C. Isaac 30
Jessie B. Isaac 22
John G. Isaac 20
Lilian Olive 5 born London

ALSO 1881

Name: Alice M. Isaac
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address: Stamford Terrace
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry H. Holmes 38
Alice M. Isaac 12
Henry D. Isaac 10 Nephew
Ethel R. Isaac 6 Niece

It doesn't look as though he divorced until 1880 or so,perhaps he never married Henrietta?
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Record Summary
Scope and content
Divorce Court File: 7246. Appellant: Eliza Holmes. Respondent: Henry Herbert Olive Holmes. Type: Wife's petition [wx].
Covering dates 1880
Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English

I think this is his first wife and their children:
Name: Eliza Olive Bolmes
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wimbourne, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 121 Blenheim C
Condition as to marriage: Divorced

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 37b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Olive Bolmes 40
Herbert A. Bolmes 11
May O. Bolmes 9
Evelyne Bolmes 2
Sophia Russel 56
John Russel 57
Agnes Larbet 20
Alice Webb 14

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 35; Folio: 56; Page: 1

Maureen

very interesting I was coming to this conclusion myself!! Perhaps they were'nt even his children and were perhaps adopted by him. Are there any records that I could search for this!! I know that Lilian used to talk about the Isaacs and that she was under the impression that Henrietta was her mother - but I am beginning to wonder because I can't find any record of her birth to check up on.