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Thanks Reggie, You could be right about Barbara and I think 1947 Susan is probably Gertrude's daughter. :-)

The only Susan I can see registered with MMN Stephens was born in 1947

Perhaps the info about 'Barbara' was inaccurate, in the way that Mr Winship's first name was

Ask your informant to provide verification

Still can't find a birth, marriage or death for Barbara Winship. But I've been told she died in her thirties.

Found a marriage for Rosetta Johnson to William E. Harding 1923 Southampton. I can't keep up with all these marriages....... :-S

Looking back on this thread Janey/Canuck has mentioned a marriage to John Smith. So that fits with what you found. Like she says ...rather unfortunate that his name is John Smith..... :-S

Well done for finding all this infornation. It's very interesting. I wonder who Mr. Smith was. I'll see if my relative knows anything about it. Thank you very much. :-)

she may have been born Johnson but her mum married a Harding ??


Marriages Mar 1909
HARDING Frederick William Christchurch 2b 1045

JOHNSON Mary Jane Christchurch 2b 1045

Seems Henry and Rosetta must have divorced

Name: Rosetta M Winship
Spouse Surname: Ross
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1953
Registration District: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1356
Find Spouse: George Ross



Name: Rosetta M Ross
Birth Date: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1967
Age at Death: 65
Registration District: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 803

age out a bit

Births Mar 1904
JOHNSON Rosetta May Romsey 2c 112


there are several chidren from that marriage for 1930 to 1940 look on FreeBMD

name: Henry James B Winship
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1904
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1976
Age at Death: 72
Registration District: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1657

Name: Henry James B Winship
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904
Registration District: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 416


Name: Henry J B Winship
Spouse Surname: Harding Or Johnson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1930
Registration District: Romsey
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 181
Find Spouse: Rosetta M Johnson/Rosetta M Harding

maybe there was a later divorce from MR Smith and she lived with Henry as the only birth for them comes up pre 1954

Name: Henry J B Winship
Spouse Surname: Smith Or Stephens
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Registration District: Winchester
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1661
Find Spouse: Gertrude A Stephens

Name: Gertrude A Smith
Spouse Surname: Winship
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Registration District: Winchester
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1661
Find Spouse: Henry J B Winship




so looks like she married John Smith first.

Name:
Henry J B Winship
Spouse Surname Smith Or Stephens
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Registration District:Winchester
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume Number:6b
Page Number:1661

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Name:
Gertrude A Stephens
Spouse Surname: Winship
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Registration District:Winchester
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume Number:6b
Page Number1661

presume she married Smith first

heres her death

Name: Gertrude Alice Winship
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1919
Date of Registration: Sep 1985
Age at Death: 66
Registration District: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1462

so still in the same area as her birth

Thanks to everyone for their help with this.
I've been able to contact a family member who has been able to tell me that Gertrude married Jim Winship and had two daughters Barbara and Susan. I found Susan as a Winship/Stephens birth but I can't find Barbara or the marriage for Jim Winship and Gertrude Stephens. Any help would be appreciated. :-)

That seems to fit well although her birth reg is 2c 104. Interesting that it's the right birth year though. I wonder if that's her. Thanks for that. I might get her birth certificate and see if the date matches. If it is she lived longer than I thought. Thanks very much.

This is the only exact match for either Gertrude A or Gertrude Annie Smith:

Name: Gertrude Annie Smith
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1919 >> fits the birth reg Q1 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 2000
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: South Staffordshire
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Register number: 17
District and Subdistrict: 7341
Entry number: 209

But getting both her birth certificate and the Stephens-Smith marriage certificate is theonly way to know.

Thanks. They are all in my contacts and don't have anything except her birthdate and place. I've found a death for a Gertude A. Smith but she was born in 1906. I'l have to keep trawling through Smith deaths. Could take a while.... I was told that she may have died from a brain tumour so may not have lived a particularly long life. Thanks for your help.

What Janey is suggesting is that you should try the Search Trees facility at the top of the page, and contact those people to see if they share your ancestor and can help.

Click on Search Trees and then All Trees, and input the details that you have.