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William Tarbuck, Wigan 1836

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Julie

Julie Report 19 Jan 2011 20:48

I am trying to find the birth parents of William Tarbuck of Wigan, b. 1836.
In the 1841 census he is living with his Grandparents George and Ellen Tarbuck and in the 1851 cencus he is living with his uncle James.
I have searched loads of baptism records but cannot find a trace of him.
Can anyone please help.
thanks,

Lynski

Lynski Report 19 Jan 2011 20:58

Do you have his marriage certificate - this would give a father's name?

The other alternative is that he is the son of Alice in the 1841 census?

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jan 2011 21:04

The 1841 census also has an Alice, 25, George, 24 and James, 20. Either Alice or George could be the parent. Or both of them, they could be married.

Katie

Katie Report 19 Jan 2011 21:26

It is even just about possible that George and Ellen could be his parents.
No relationships are given on the 1841 census. It is possible that Alice is a daughter in law, I have found baptisms for 1 daughter and 3 sons of George and Ellen but no Alice.
Katie

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jan 2011 21:36

On the 1861 census he's married to Catherine. This looks like the marriage:

Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Tarbuck William Wigan 8c 96
Tinsley Catherine Wigan 8c 96

Marriage certificate would give father's name if he knew it.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jan 2011 21:48

1881

William TARBUCK Head M Male 43 Wigan, Lancashire, England Licensed Victualler
Ann TARBUCK Wife M Female 40 Wigan, Lancashire, England
Henry TARBUCK Son U Male 21 Wigan, Lancashire, England Boiler Maker
Mary Theresa TARBUCK Daur U Female 19 Wigan, Lancashire, England Bar Maid
Jane TARBUCK Daur Female 17 Wigan, Lancashire, England Dressmaker
Lilly C. TARBUCK Daur Female 4 Pemberton, Lancashire, England Scholar
Emily CHADWICK (TARBUCK) Step Daur Female 13 Pemberton, Lancashire, England Scholar
Elizabeth LEAY Servant U Female 22 Wigan, Lancashire, England General Domestic Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 203 Billinge Rd (Railway Inn)
Census Place Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341904
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3780 / 13
Page Number 20

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jan 2011 21:51

George Tarbuck

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Wigan, Lancashire, England
parents: George Tarbuck, Ellen

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: George Tarbuck
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 May 1868
baptism/christening place: St. Catherine's, Wigan, Lancashire, England
father's name: George Tarbuck
mother's name: Ellen
indexing project (batch) number: C02175-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jan 2011 21:51

George Tarbuck

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 14 Jul 1815 — Bottling Wood, Wigan
residence: Wigan, Lancashire, England
parents: George Tarbuck, Ellen Tarbuck

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: George Tarbuck
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 May 1868
baptism/christening place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
birth date: 14 Jul 1815
birthplace: Bottling Wood, Wigan
father's name: George Tarbuck
mother's name: Ellen Tarbuck
indexing project (batch) number: C00955-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Jan 2011 22:08

For ref, here's the 2censuses:

1841 England Census
Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Bottling Wood
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan

George Tarbuck 50 Lancashire, England Nail Maker
Ellen Tarbuck 50 Lancashire, England
Alice Tarbuck 25 Lancashire, England Dress Maker
George Tarbuck 24 Lancashire, England Nail Maker
James Tarbuck 20 Lancashire, England Nail Maker
William Tarbuck 5 Lancashire, England

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 523; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Wigan; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: ; Page: 2; Line: 13; GSU roll: 306909.



1851 England Census
Civil Parish: Pemberton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pemberton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Saint Andrews Terrace
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Household schedule number: 77

James Farbuck 29 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Nail Manufacturer Employing 6 Men
Susanna Farbuck 24 Huntingdonshire, England Wife M
Sarah Ann Farbuck 1 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter
John T Farbuck 2MO Pemberton, Lancashire, England Son
William Farbuck 14 Wigan, Lancashire, England Nephew U Nail Maker
Margaret Halliway 8 Pemberton, Lancashire, England Servant U Servant

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2200; Folio: 398; Page: 22; GSU roll: 87210.

[Image says Tarbuck - correction subm'd to Ancestry]


Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TARBUCK James BROUGHTON Susan Warrington, St Elphin Warrington C25/3/186
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TARBUCK Sarah Ann Wigan Wigan & Leigh BROUGHTON WIG/26/189
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TARBUCK John Thomas Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/9/108

[Mum's MS not retro-fitted for Pemberton yet]

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Jan 2011 22:29

There are no likely deaths of Tarbucks on LancsBMD, except possibly in St Helens where no ages are given.
[EDIT - thru 1851

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
TARBUCK John Thomas 0 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/6/257

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jan 2011 22:51

I think William was married twice. Mary Theresa who is is the daughter of William & Ann on the 81 census is the daughter of William & Catherine here:

TARBUCK, Mary Theresa Christening
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1862
Recorded in: Hindley, Lancashire, England
Father: William TARBUCK
Mother: Catherine
Source: FHL Film 1469058 Dates: 1862 - 1862

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jan 2011 22:54

But Jane is the daughter of William & Ann:

TARBUCK, Jane Christening
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1863
Christening Date: 20 May 1877 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: William TARBUCK
Mother: Ann
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893



Margee

Margee Report 19 Jan 2011 23:02

This Lillie is baptised same day as Jane???

TARBUCK, Lillie Christening
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1877
Christening Date: 20 May 1877 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: William TARBUCK
Mother: Ann
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893

Julie

Julie Report 19 Jan 2011 23:18

Hi Madbull. I dont think any of them are his parents as they are all still living in later census' but William is living with his Uncle James in 1851.

I will send for marriage cert as suggested.

thanks All.
Julie

Lynski

Lynski Report 19 Jan 2011 23:42

He could be living with his uncle in 1851 because of his job which means that his parents would/could still be alive?

Margee

Margee Report 20 Jan 2011 03:20

I didn't say they were his parents, Julie. I thought William himself could have been married twice, to Catherine and to Ann. Of course she could have been Catherine Ann.

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Jan 2011 05:42

Marriage: 25 Mar 1874 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
William Tarbuck - 36 Boiler Maker Widower of Newtown, Pemberton
Ann Chadwick - 33 Widow of Newtown, Pemberton
Groom's Father: Robert Tarbuck, Farmer (dead)
Bride's Father: William Winnard, Provision dealer (deceased)
Witness: John Samuel Carr; Catherine Bibby
Married by Licence by: W.J.Sparrow, Curate
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1878, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 1885637

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Jan 2011 07:16

Using the local indices at http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Especially http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
and also using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TARBUCK William TINSLEY Catherine Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/10/136

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TARBUCK Ellen Wigan Wigan & Leigh TINSLEY WIG/55/217Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TARBUCK Henry Wigan Wigan & Leigh TINSLEY WIG/62/64

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
TARBUCK Henry Wigan 8c 38


There's a whole mess of Tarbucks in this 1861 ED

1861 England Census
Civil Parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Street address: 33 Bottling Wood
Household schedule number: 118

James Tarbuck 40 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Nail Maker
Susan Tarbuck 34 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England Wife M
Sarah A Tarbuck 12 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter U Scholar
Jane Tarbuck 4 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2773; Folio: 94; Page: 26; GSU roll: 543027.

Street address: 42 Bottling Wood
Household schedule number: 126

William Tarbuck 42 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Master Bolt Maker & Manuf
Mary Tarbuck 45 Wigan, Lancashire, England Wife M
Thomas Tarbuck 16 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son U Iron Turner? & Fitter App
Ellen S Tarbuck 14 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter
James P Tarbuck 13 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son App Moulder

Street address: 44 Bottling Wood
Household schedule number: 128

William Tarbuck 25 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Boiler Maker & Iron Ship Builder
Catherine Tarbuck 26 Wigan, Lancashire, England Wife M
Ellen Tarbuck 2 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter
Henry Tarbuck 2MO Wigan, Lancashire, England Son

Street address: 32 Douglas House ?
Household schedule number: 129

George Tarbuck 45 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Bolt & Nail Manufacturer
Elizabeth Tarbuck 39 Wigan, Lancashire, England Wife
George J Tarbuck 11 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son Scholar
Ellen Tarbuck 10 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Frances Tarbuck 6 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Jane Tarbuck 4 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Hannah Knowles 16 Billinge, Lancashire, England Governeress U Governeress
Cecily Dawson 13 Burscough, Lancashire, England Servant U House Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2773; Folio: 95; Page: 28; GSU roll: 543027.

Street address: 28 Bottling Wood
Household schedule number: 133

Mary Tarbuck 36 Pemberton, Lancashire, England Head M Formerly Laundress
Denis Tarbuck 18 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son U Boiler Maker
Ellis Tarbuck 15 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son U Boiler Maker
Margaret Tarbuck 13 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2773; Folio: 96; Page: 29; GSU roll: 543027.


[Bottling Wood lies between Haigh Plantation and Whelley Rd, abt 1km E of the Infirmary.
ED 14 includes Bottling Wood S of R Douglas]




1871 England Census
Civil Parish: Pemberton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pemberton
Town: Newtown
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Lipfield Houses [prob nr Ormskirk Rd]
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Pemberton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 237

William Tarbuck 34 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Boiler Maker
Catherine Tarbuck 36 Wigan, Lancashire, England Wife M Provision Dealer
Ellen Tarbuck 12 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Henry Tarbuck 10 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son Scholar
Mary T Tarbuck 8 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Janey Tarbuck 6 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Annie Tarbuck 2 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter
Mary Burgess 18 Wigan, Lancashire, England Servant General Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3895; Folio: 26; Page: 45; GSU roll: 842041.
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3895; Folio: 26; Page: 46; GSU roll: 842041.


mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Jan 2011 07:17

Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%)
TARBUCK Catherine 39 Wigan 8c 88

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874 [q1]
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TARBUCK William CHADWICK Ann St. John,Pemberton Wigan & Leigh C22/3/259




Here's Uncle James & Aunt Susan - who the other folk are is open.
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/cemetery.php?opt=cemetery

Surname Forename Age Place of Death Date Year Notes Grave Cremation Religion
Beacon Eileen Patricia 12 Mths Swinley Lane 06-Jun 1923 .. B 178 Non Con
Lambert Sarah Ann 52 12 Freckleton St 12-Dec 1902 B 178 Non Con
Stuart Annie 3 Mths Douglas H'ses Bott'Wood. 24-Nov 1880 B 178 Non Con
Stuart Eleanor 7 Yrs Douglas H'se Bott'Wood. 21-Dec 1880 B 178 Non Con
Stuart Agnes 45 Yrs Coppull Lane 08-Apr 1924 B 178 Non Con
Tarbuck Susan 41 Yrs Tarbuck Cot.Bottling Wood. 2-Jan 1868 B 178 Non Con
Tarbuck Thomas 29 Yrs 28 Bottling Wood 4-Dec 1871 B 178 Non Con
Tarbuck James 74 yrs none given >>> 30-Dec 1895 Southport B 178 Non con
Taylor Emma no age 50 Bottling Wood 2-Dec 1871 married - ( 52 on BMD) B 178 Non Con

This looks like Wm's wife - was Alice his mum?

Tarbuck John Joseph 2¼ Yrs Ormskirk Rd. Pemberton 31-Oct 1869 A 155 R C
Tarbuck William 2 yrs Newtown, Pemberton 21-Sep 1873 A 155 R C
Tarbuck Catherine 39 yrs Newtown , Pemberton 17-Jan 1874 A 155 R C
Tarbuck Alice 63 Yrs 1 Platt Lane 28-Dec 1883 A 155 R C
Woodhall Leonard 9 yrs Wigan Infirmary 21-Jun 1939 [ 149, Bech Hill Lane ] A 155 R C
Woodhall Cecilia Mary 78 yrs Convent, Orchard Ln.Leigh 20-May 1974 [ 37, Logwood Place ] A 155 R C


Burial: 28 Mar 1895 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
George Tarbuck -
Age: 79 years
Abode: Birkdale
Buried by: H W M Gunning Curate
Register: Burials 1888 - 1904, Page 77, Entry 612
Source: LDS Film 1885705

Marriage: 7 Jun 1810 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
George Tarbuck - of Liverpool
Ellen Bolton - of this town [Wigan]
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Thos. Taylor
Married by Licence by: Thomas Pigot Curate
Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 291, Entry 1206
Source: LDS Film 1885690



Marriage: 23 Oct 1889 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
James Fitzmaurice - 28 Carpenter Bachelor of 182 Chester Road, Tranmere
Mary Theresa Tarbuck - 26 Spinster of 20 Mitchell St, Pemberton
Groom's Father: James Fitzmaurice, Store keeper
Bride's Father: William Tarbuck, Boiler maker
Witness: William ?; Emily Chadwick?
Married by Banns by: J. Llewellyn, Curate
Register: Marriages 1885 - 1890, Page 227, Entry 454
Source: LDS Film 1885638

Marriage: 5 Oct 1891 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
John Woodhall - 25 Grocer Bachelor of 264 Ince Green Lane, Ince
Jane Tarbuck - 26 Dress Maker Spinster of 231 Ormskirk Road, Pemberton
Groom's Father: Ralph Woodhall, Engineer
Bride's Father: William Tarbuck, Boiler Maker
Witness: Edwin Parsons; Annie Tarbuck
Married by Banns by: J. Llewellyn
Register: Marriages 1890 - 1895, Page 81, Entry 162
Source: LDS Film 1885638

Marriage: 2 Oct 1881 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Henry Tarbuck - 22 Boiler Maker Bachelor of Highfield, Pemberton
Frances Darbyshire - 19 Weaver Spinster of Newtown, Pemberton
Groom's Father: William Tarbuck, Innkeeper
Bride's Father: James Darbyshire, Overlooker in Cotton Mill
Witness: John Derbyshire; Mary Derbyshire, (X)
Married by Banns by: Harry Mitchell, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1878 - 1885, Page 113, Entry 225
Source: LDSFilm 1885637


Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
Tarbuck Lily Chisnall Wigan 8c 135


Marriage: 16 Jun 1867 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Robert Chadwick - (X), Full Butcher Bachelor of Darlington St
Ann Winnard - Full Domestic Servant Spinster of Wigan Lane
Groom's Father: Robert Chadwick, Butcher
Bride's Father: William Winnard, deceased, Provision Dealer
Witness: Henry Parnell; Jane Millington, (X)
Married by Certificate by: Thomas Higham, St Catherine's, Wigan
Register: Marriages 1867 - 1873, Page 8, Entry 16
Source: LDS Film 1885726


1871 England Census
Civil Parish: Pemberton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pemberton
Town: Newtown
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Bowling Green Inn [Ormskirk Rd?]
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Pemberton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 7

Robert Chadwick 33 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head M Publican
Ann Chadwick 30 Wigan, Lancashire, England Wife M
Emily Chadwick 2 Pemberton, Lancashire, England Daughter
Mary Griffiths 19 Ince, Lancashire, England Servant U General Servt Domestic

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3894; Folio: 102; Page: 2; GSU roll: 842041.

Julie

Julie Report 20 Jan 2011 15:06

Firstly, apologies to all for lack of communication. Having router/wifi probs at home. I am at work at the moment and dont have a lot of time to go onto site.

Secondly, thank you all for the information. There is a lot to take in so I will print it all off and have a good read through. The more I look through the data it would appear that Alice may be his mum. Once I have read through all the above I will try and send for birth cert.

Thanks once again. I may come back for help once problem sorted at home.
Julie