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Hi all,

Looking for information on Harry Allen who was a portrait artist and his family - on the 1901 Census Harry was living at Putney with wife Ada and children Averit b1896 and Joseph 1900.

Harry & Ada were married Mar 1895 Wandsworth 1d 733

Cannot find any marriage or death for daughter Averit

Found a possible death of Ada P Dec 1948 Devizes

Any information much appreciated,

Joy

Not sure the daughter is Averit - possibly Averil or Avril

Glitter Baby will check for those variations.

Joy

1911not at home
ALLEN, Hannah Mother Widow F 75 1836 Nil Scarboro Yorkshire VIEW
ALLEN, Harry Head Married M 44 1867 Artist Painter York Yorks VIEW
ALLEN, Ada Patrosiol Wife Married
16 years F 43 1868 Nil Middlesex Camden Town VIEW
ALLEN, Joseph Frederick Son M 11 1900 Nil Surrey Putney VIEW
BRUCE, Sophia Widow F 60 1851 House Keeper Middlesex Kendall VIEW
HARBOUR, Rose Single F 21 1890 Servant Middlesex Kensal Rise VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7230 Reference:
RG14PN7230 RG78PN353 RD132 SD1 ED38 SN153

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Hornsey Enumeration District:
38 Parish:
Hornsey

Address:
3 Hoknsey Lane Gardens Highgate

3 children born - 2 still alive

1911

ALLEN, Hannah Mother Widow F 75 1836 Nil Scarboro Yorkshire VIEW
ALLEN, Harry Head Married M 44 1867 Artist Painter York Yorks VIEW
ALLEN, Ada Patrosiol Wife Married
16 years F 43 1868 Nil Middlesex Camden Town VIEW
ALLEN, Joseph Frederick Son M 11 1900 Nil Surrey Putney VIEW
BRUCE, Sophia Widow F 60 1851 House Keeper Middlesex Kendall VIEW
HARBOUR, Rose Single F 21 1890 Servant Middlesex Kensal Rise VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7230 Reference:
RG14PN7230 RG78PN353 RD132 SD1 ED38 SN153

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Hornsey Enumeration District:
38 Parish:
Hornsey

Address:
3 Hoknsey Lane Gardens Highgate County:
Middlesex



3 children born, 2 still living

For middle name reference ( always helps )

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Marriages Mar 1895 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

..........................;Allen Harry Milward - Wandsworth 1d 733
............................Knight-Smith Ada PATIENCE - Wandsworth 1d 733
Maskell Florence Ellen Wandsworth 1d 733
.......................;Smith Ada Patience K - Wandsworth 1d 733
Woodcock Frederick William Wandsworth 1d 733

1911


CAMPBELL, John P Head Married M 41 1870 Shoe Salesman Dublin Dublin Resident VIEW
CAMPBELL, Susan C Wife Married F 35 1876 Dublin Sandymount Resident VIEW
DONNELLY, Anne Sister - In - Law Si0 F 37 1874 Dublin Sandymount Visitor VIEW

>>>>>ALLEN, Averil Visitor Single F 15 1896 London Putney S W Visitor

NASH, Alice A Servant Single F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic London Putney S W VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5142 Reference:
RG14PN5142 RG78PN227 RD79 SD2 ED22 SN507

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
West Brighton Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Brighton

Address:
123 Western Road Brighton County:
Sussex

From National Portrait Gallery Website ...

Harry M. Allen

(active 1907-1937)
Artist associated with 2 portraits

Camden would come under Pancras

Not sure where the "Knight" part of her name comes in.
Maybe a stepfather's name


Births Dec 1867 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Smith Ada Patience - Pancras 1b 184

Google found one teeny thing for the full name:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17152038?searchTerm=Amelia+Earheart

(don't ask me why it says Amelia Earheart; it should go to page 2, Monday 11 February 1935)

Under Legal Notices, in the part at the bottom of entertainment ads (worth looking just to see the movie ads of the day!)

In the Supreme Court of New South Wales -- Probate Jurisdiction -- In the Will of sir Frederick Charles Allen late of 122 Leadenhall-street in the City of London and of 81(?) Warwick-road Kensington in the County of Middlesex Baronet deceased. -- Application will be made ... Probate ... granted ... to Dame Mary Harriet Corrie Allen, Harry Milward Allen, Sir Francis Raymond Allen and John Christopher Druce the Executors ...


Just in case those names help at all!

Household:1881

Hannah ALLEN Head M Female 45 Scarboro, York, England Annuitant
Frederick Charles ALLEN Son U Male 16 York, England Law Stationers Clerk
>>>>>>>>>>>>Harry Milward ALLEN Son Male 14 York, England Scholar
Jane NELSON Servant U Female 23 Bridlington, York, England General Servant

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Dwelling 5 Lawn Place
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

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Births Sep 1866
Allen Harry M - York 9d 10

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HARRY MILWARD ALLEN--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 DEC 1866 Saint Olave, York, Yorkshire, England

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Parents:
Father: CHARLES NOKE ALLEN

Mother: HANNAH

Name: Averil Ada Allen
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1988
Age at death (estimated): 90
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1490


That birth just was not registered!

Unless she was informally adopted and her name changed ...

Wonder if Noke should be Jake ?

Marriages Jun 1863 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ALLEN Charles Jake - Scarbro 9d 469
PARKINSON Hannah - Scarbro 9d 469

Sorry, didn't get back earlier, lost power, so annoying!!

Wow Janey,

Thank you, Sir Frederick Charles is, I believe Harry's brother. Will have a look at article, thanks again,

Joy

Fancy find him living and dying here in Australia. There are a number of articles, so will go through them all.

On the Will details given by Janey, I assume the Dame Mary Harriet Allen is Fredericks wife.

It looks like his brother Sir Frederick Charles Allen was Managing Director with British India Steamship and was a Deputy Chairman of P and O!!

He was created a Baronet in 1933.

Is there any way I can find out when he went to India?

I have not been able to find a death of his father Charles Jake Allen, he was not listed as living with the family on the 1871 or 1881 Census, but his wife is a widow on the 1891 Census.

Thanks, Joy

Are you interested in Harry's mum Hannah nee Parkinson?

Maryb

It seems Charles was Charles N Allen not Jake.

Charles Noke Allen baptised St Olaves York 19/10/1837 by William and Elizabeth



1841 He is Charles N Allen.
1851 Charles N Allen son of William Allen 1803 Teacher of Dance.
William and Elizabeth also had William MILWARD Allen 1844.

In 1871/81 she is down as married.
1891 widow!!

On the IGI there is a Charles N Allen born York 1837 died in USA 1903 he was a Violinist.Could this be the same man??

Hannah must have been comfortably of in her own rights to bring up and educate her 3 children on her own.

Maryb