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where were you born?

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Elaine Report 10 Apr 2011 21:55

catherine rice,married in 1861,to dennis mahon,died in 1868...but no trace of her being born!!!


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:02

How old was she when she married?

Who was her father?

Where in the world was the marriage?


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:04

Is this the marriage?...........groom's name not quite as you have it

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861

RICE Catherine MAHAN Denis Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/15/11


Elaine Report 10 Apr 2011 22:15

have several variations flick..was spelt denis mahan when he married catherine,she died few days after having their 4th child..think march 1868...married bridget farrell in the july,when his name was down as denNis mahan! he married both at st oswalds rc church,ashton in makerfield.lancs(i have copy of both wedding certs) catherines dad was peter rice. of course i recognized denis and catherines names,but who are charles fitzpatrick and elizabeth malone?


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:17

The other couple on the page! ( I deleted the freebmd info and posted from Lancsbmd)

You haven't said how OLD Catherine was!


Elaine Report 10 Apr 2011 22:19

i'm presuming there wouldnt be much difference in their ages,so as denis was born in 1835,i been looking from 1835-1840,but cant find owt


jax Report 10 Apr 2011 22:19

There is another thread Elaine which you should really just add to rather than start people looking again



safc Report 10 Apr 2011 22:23

Name: Catharine Rice
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Jan 1832
Baptism/Christening Place: St Anthony, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 05 Jan 1832
Death Date:
Name Note:
Father's Name: Peter
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Tipping
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02318-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 396379
Reference Number: v 3 p 42
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:23

Oh, for pity's sake...................

Duplicate posting!

And you can't even give us her age from the marriage cert...........OR the death record!


Elaine Report 10 Apr 2011 22:25

oops...never even thought of using age on cert to find birth year! she was 24 flick. sorry jax,the other thread was on denis...i'm now trying to trace catherine rice. thought i had to start a new one


Elaine Report 10 Apr 2011 22:27

age from marriage given flick...don't be cross...i dont have copy of death cert


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:29

Birth reg'n didn't start until JULY 1837......and until 1875 there were no penalties for NOT registering

Try looking for a Baptism


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:30

Where was Denis born?

Who witnessed the marriage?

What was Peter's occupation?


Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:34

They were obviously RC...........perhaps she was born in Ireland?


jax Report 10 Apr 2011 22:35

Denis more than likely



Elaine Report 10 Apr 2011 22:37

i tried baptisms....but dont know where she was baptized...looked at the church she was married,but they dont have any online records. I'm very sorry for any misunderstanding..i thought you started a different search for each branch of the family. and thankyou,


JaneyCanuck Report 10 Apr 2011 22:39

Elaine, you need to get acquainted with FreeBMD

(For one thing, there are almost always two couples shown on a register page, and FreeBMD shows all names on that page. Only the certificate shows who married whom for sure.)

There's no death of a Catherine Mah* in 1868 to match your info. (Or late 1867 -- if the child's birth was registered in March quarter 1868 s/he could have been born in late 1867. What was the child's name??)


jax Report 10 Apr 2011 22:42

If you look at the 1861 census before Denis and catherine marry Denis is lodging in a house with a Michael Rice born Ireland...could he be her brother?



Flick Report 10 Apr 2011 22:42

No death for her in 1868 on freebmd


jax Report 10 Apr 2011 22:45

This is all coming from a tree on ancestry...have you contacted the tree owner Elaine?