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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 17:57

Elaine.... Surely this has got to be the relation of himself...!!
1881..Census


Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph MAHON Head M Male 53 Ireland Laborer At Iron Works
Ann MAHON Wife M Female 50 Ireland
Patrick MAHON Son U Male 27 Ireland Laborer At Iron Works
Joseph MAHON Son U Male 19 Ireland Laborer At Iron Works
Harriet MAHON Daur U Female 18 Ireland School Pupil Teacher
Mary MAHON Daur U Female 21 Ireland Cotton Rover In Mill
William MAHON Son M Male 23 Ireland General Laborer
Ann MAHON Grand Daur Female 3 Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ann CARR Daur M Female 25 Ireland Cotton Rover In Mill
James CARR Grand Son Male 3 St Helens, Lancashire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 19 A John Street
Census Place Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341903
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3777 / 50
Page Number 32

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:09

Elaine ..Have brought this over .So folk wont be wondering where the Co Mayo connection is from...
www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1263289

thnx a million RamblingRose...will try them. the names i am seeking are my gt gt grandad Dennis(denis?) Mahon(mahan,mahone?) the 2 spells for dennis come from census and marriage lists..as with mahon & mahan. the mahone is how mi dad said it was spelt. we know he was from mayo. we live in n.ireland,but used to live in galway,and when my dad came over every year we took him all over...when we took him to westport,he said that was where his family was from. don't know if this is correct,but until his death in jan. age 86,his mind was still very sharp.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 12 Apr 2011 18:12

EGB, could you edit the post two above to show the *census year*?

I don't think we should assume that either Denis's or Catherine's parents were in England, though.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:21

Elaine...What addresses do you have on the MC and DC for Dennis and Cath...

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:27

Elaine..What date was the Marriage at the Cathedral ?
Was Brid Farrell a Galway girl...?

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:32

what year is this erin? my joseph died between 1861 and 1868,cos he was alive on dennis & catherines cert...but deceased on dennis & bridgets cert

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:39

second wedding to bridget in tuam cathedral was on 1st nov. 1873. on this cert spellings are denis mahon and bridget farrell. but on the a-i-m cert spelling is denNis mahAn ! so matbe tuam is a red herring? we visit tuam a lot...my daughter lives there,and my husband was reared there! hope this helps erin(presume you are irish,by the name...where you from?)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:43

Elaine...1881...but he may have been a brother of himself...
You can check out 1871 Census see if Joseph is listed in the area...I dont have access or would have done it...

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:52

den & cath were both living lodge lane A-i-Makerfield. den still in ladge lane,and bridg as A-i-Makerfield(no street given)

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:54

at time of death dennis was living 4,schofield st. tyldesley

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 19:01

that lodge lane NOT ladge lane! erin..only joseph mahon in 1871 census was b.1807 and lived mount st. prescot. much woolton

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 19:14

Have you looked at Newton-in Makerfield....?
Plenty Mahon's there.

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 19:40

i didnt put a place erin..just put joseph mahon in 1871 census and only 1 come up

jax

jax Report 12 Apr 2011 20:05

1871 census - household transcription


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MAHON, Joseph Head M 44 1827 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, Anne Wife F 39 1832 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, Ellen Daughter F 23 1848 Ireland VIEW
MCDONNEL, Edward Son-In-Law M 26 1845 Ireland VIEW
MCDONNEL, Anne Daughter F 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW
MAHON, Patrick Son M 18 1853 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, Anne Daughter F 16 1855 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, William Son M 15 1856 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, Mary Daughter F 13 1858 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, Joseph Son M 11 1860 Ireland VIEW
MAHON, Harriet Frances Daughter F 8 1863 Ireland VIEW

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Civil Parish:
Ince in Makerfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
John Street, Ince In Makerfield County:
Lancashire

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 20:59

joseph here was b. in 1827.....my dennis,son of joseph,was born 1836(age 39 when he died in jan.1877) so this joseph would only have been 9yrs of age.

jax

jax Report 12 Apr 2011 22:16

same man as you found Elaine in 1871 but the 1851 says he was born Ireland

1851 census - household transcription
Person: MAHON, Joseph
Address: 38, Warwick Street, Toxteth Park Extra Parochial, Liverpool


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MAHON, Joseph Head Married M 46 1805 Hair Dresser
Ireland VIEW

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1861 census - household transcription
Person: MAHON, Joseph
Address: 218, Park Road, Toxteth Park, Liverpool


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MAHON, Joseph Head Married M 52 1809 Hair Dresser
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MAHON, Mary Wife Married F 40 1821
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
ROBINSON, Ellen Sister In Law Widow F 34 1827 Seamstress
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

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Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 23:24

joseph the hairdresser is also on the 1871 census,having moved to prescot. joseph,dennis' father was living in 1861 but deceased in 1868...so he wouldnt be round in 1871.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 12 Apr 2011 23:30

Poor Elaine. ;)

Have I missed it somewhere? - what was Joseph's occupation on Denis's marriage certificate(s)?

If Joseph the hairdresser was living in 1871 he very probably is not the right person in any event, or why would Denis say in 1868 that his father was deceased?

pilot.familysearch has one death in Ireland in the right time period to fit:

Name: Joseph Mahon
Registration District: Mohill
Event Type: DEATHS
Registration Quarter and Year: 1865
Estimated Birth Year: 1805
Age (at Death): 60
Film Number: 101582
Volume Number: 8
Page Number: 196
Digital Folder Number: 4200214
Image Number: 00454
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Elaine

Elaine Report 13 Apr 2011 00:07

i know janey :-( ! i contacted ann,who sent me the copy of cath and dens wedding cert..she has the same as me,with the end and beginning missing. she is going to contact the person who sent it to her...unfortunately it won't be quick,cos he dont have a computer. cant take any longer than getting it from the gov site...been wating over 2wks for jane e kellys wedding cert!

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 13 Apr 2011 10:11

Elaine...You have the Heart across me so you do..!!

The Joseph Mahon (b 1827) may have been an elder brother to Dennis (just a suggestion) and he was still in Ireland 1863 when Harriet was born...the earliest Census he would show up on 1871 (jax) yesterday.

In the name of the wee man who is Jane Kelly...?