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Scotland census/McQuarrie

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Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 11:41

Mary McQuarrie born c1877 daughter of John McQuarrie a Mariner.

I would like to find Mary birth so I can order a birth certificate to confirm family rumours!

Mary married Arthur Seale Hyson in 1904 in Hampshire, (marriage certificate states she was 27 and Arthur, 25) but information from the family says that Mary was born in Scotland.

I appreciate it's not a lot of information but any help gratefully received!

I have sent messages to various people on GR connected with McQuarrie, with no luck as yet, but some of them may not even use this site anymore perhaps.

Thank you in anticipation.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2011 11:50

You need Scotlands People for the birth . its not a subs site cost £7 for 30 units. I unit to view the info and 5 to download the actual birth record

K

K Report 17 Apr 2011 11:54

This looks like the couple in 1911 which confirms her birthplace

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HYSON, Mary
Address: 41 Boulton Road Southsea Portsmouth

HYSON, Arthur Seale Head Married M 31 1880 Stoker Royal Navy Chelsea London VIEW
HYSON, Mary Wife Married
6 years F 33 1878 Laundress Ayr Ayrshire Scotland Resident VIEW
HYSON, Florence Beatrice Daughter F 4 1907 Southsea Hampshire VIEW
HUDSON, Eliza Boarder Widow F 73 1838 Old Age Pensioner East Spenner Pembroke Dock Wales VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5611 Reference:
RG14PN5611 RG78PN254 RD90 SD4 ED19 SN265

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsmouth and Mid Southsea Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Portsmouth

Address:
41 Boulton Road Southsea Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2011 11:55

1911 census confrms her scottish birth
HYSON, Arthur Seale Head Married M 31 1880 Stoker Royal Navy Chelsea London VIEW
HYSON, Mary Wife Married
6 years F 33 1878 Laundress Ayr Ayrshire Scotland Resident VIEW
HYSON, Florence Beatrice Daughter F 4 1907 Southsea Hampshire VIEW
HUDSON, Eliza Boarder Widow F 73 1838 Old Age Pensioner East Spenner Pembroke Dock Wales VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5611 Reference:
RG14PN5611 RG78PN254 RD90 SD4 ED19 SN265

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsmouth and Mid Southsea Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Portsmouth

Address:
41 Boulton Road Southsea Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

1 child born to 1911

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2011 12:01

??

John Mc Quarrie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 06 Mar 1857 — TRADESTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 1857 — Lana, Scotland
parents: Hector Mc Quarrie, Catherine Mc Lean
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
name: John Mc Quarrie
gender: Male
birth date: 06 Mar 1857
birthplace: TRADESTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: Hector Mc Quarrie
mother's name: Catherine Mc Lean
indexing project (batch) number: C11933-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 12:16

Thank you all.

I'll have a look at the Scotland site. Ann - I'm not sure what I can do with your information actually but I'll file it with Marys stuff, 'just in case'!

Thanks again everyone.

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 12:51

One more question...sorry!...

am I able to order Marys birth certificate from GRO or not, because of it being in Scotland I mean?

Thanks again.

K

K Report 17 Apr 2011 12:55

You need to order through Scotlands People and you may be able to view it online. It is cheaper than the GRO which only has records for England and Wales

Just checked and images of statutory births from 1855 to 1910 are available to view on this site so you should be in luck

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 12:58

Of course..I'm a numpty aren't I?! I will have a look at Scotlands People now and post anything I find.

Thanks.

K

K Report 17 Apr 2011 13:03

I can't see her in the census prior to 1911 so this would be a good way forward

Gordon

Gordon Report 17 Apr 2011 13:14

There are 4 matches to Mary's name in the Scotlandspeople site between the years 1876 to 1878. I haven't any credits so can't go further for you. Good luck
Gordon

K

K Report 17 Apr 2011 13:24

There is this family in 1891 English Census with the father John a mariner althougth the children are listed as born in Liverpool - Just is case!

Name: John McQuarrie
Age: 50?
Estimated Birth Year:
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margarit McQuarrie
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Bootle
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bootle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2971
Folio: 97
Page Number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
John McQuarrie 50?
Margarit McQuarrie 41
Hector McQuarrie 20
John Wm McQuarrie 17
Mary J McQuarrie 16
Eliza McQuarrie 11
Agnes D McQuarrie 8
James F McQuarrie 4
Annie McQuarrie 3
James F Mevag 34

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 13:48

Ooh..interesting, thanks!

Just came back to post about Scotlands People site..

Bought credits..besides copies being exceptionally poor quality, I had no luck finding our Mary McQuarrie :-( Not a waste of money though because it might have proved positive eh?!

Hey ho...onward and upward.

Thanks again everyone.

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 13:50

K...

that is really intriguing about the Liverpool lot...I will look into it, I'll file it too...'just in case'!

K

K Report 17 Apr 2011 14:28

You might want to add this to the Just in Case file for the family in 1911 - I can't see their Mary in 1911

QUARRIE, Margaret Mc Head Widow F 61 1850 None Liverpool Toxteth VIEW
BOYLE, Mary Daughter Married
7 years F 36 1875 None Liverpool Kirkdale VIEW
MCQUARRIE, Margaret Daughter Single F 35 1876 None Liverpool Kirkdale VIEW
MCQUARRIE, James Fife Son Single M 24 1887 Labourer Liverpool Kirkdale VIEW
MCQUARRIE, Annie Daughter Single F 23 1888 None Liverpool Kirkdale VIEW
MCQUARRIE, Peter Son Single M 19 1892 Apprentice Fitter Liverpool Kirkdale VIEW
BOYLE, Harold Grandson M 5 1906 Liverpool Toxteth VIEW
MCNAY, James Fife Boarder Single M 53 1858 Sailor Limerick Limerick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22297 Reference:
RG14PN22297 RG78PN1317 RD454 SD4 ED19 SN336

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park East Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Toxteth Park

Address:
127 Errol Street Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 15:14

Thanks K..printed and in file! Maybe if this is our Mary she won't be there because she married Arthur?..I will investigate!...

Helen

Helen Report 17 Apr 2011 15:53

The same family in 1881 ... this time John is ... Thomas ?

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas MCQUARIE Head M Male 41 Scotland Sailor
Margaret MCQUARIE Wife M Female 31 Lpool, Lancashire, England Housekeeper
Hector MCQUARIE Son U Male 10 Lpool, Lancashire, England School
John MCQUARIE Son U Male 7 Lpool, Lancashire, England School
Mary Ann MCQUARIE Daur U Female 6 Lpool, Lancashire, England School
Elizabeth MCQUARIE Daur U Female 1 Lpool, Lancashire, England Infant
Patrick HYNES Lodger U Male 45 Ireland Labourer

Talanya

Talanya Report 17 Apr 2011 16:19

Thanks Helen...in 'just in case' file. Very slight variation on spelling of McQuarrie.

Reluctant to use remainder of credits on Scotlands People site until I have more definite information. It's Marys birh certificate I need to get.

Thanks again.

Helen

Helen Report 17 Apr 2011 16:35

The trouble with searching on Scotlandspeople is, they only transcribe the name as is has been spelled on the original certificate. Unless you can hit on the exact spelling .....

McQuarrie is one of those awkward names that could be spelled in many different ways. Not easy to find.

I've had a look using all the different variations on the name I can think of ... born in Ayr, Ayrshire ... and can't find Mary.

It seems odd that your Mary is so specific in recording her place of birth as Ayr, Ayrshire .... I would tend to believe her information.

However, as we all know, sometimes people give weird and wonderful info on all sorts of records ... not always accurate.

K

K Report 17 Apr 2011 16:59

Her death certainly adds the confirmation of her age - based on her husband's death in the same reg district

Name: Mary Hyson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1958
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 440