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DENTON & BRIGGS - NOTTINGHAM / KIRKHEATON

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Dea

Dea Report 3 May 2011 08:19

Firstly,

If Thomas was a widow on 1871 - he must have been married and widowed between 1861 and 1871 as he was still single in 1861.

Secondly, the three boys on 1871 could not have been 'full' brothers to him as his (Thomas's) mother Mary was 40 ish when she had him and she would not be producing more children some 20-30 years later !!

Doubtful that they are Thomas's children, though their ages would be O.K. for him to be the father, but he did not appear to have any children before 1861.

Perhaps they were children of whoever he married and took on his name?

I will see what I can find.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 3 May 2011 08:14

1871 for reference:

1871 England Census
about George Denton Name: George Denton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 3512
Folio: 12
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Denton 40 Widr. b. Dolton, Yorkshire Labr.
George Denton 18 brother winder
William Denton 15 brother winder
Thomas Denton 12 brother threader for machine
George Breedon 24 lodger
Alice Breedon 20 lodger

at 7 Stag Yard

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3512; Folio: 12; Page: 19; GSU roll: 839747.

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This must be Thomas on 1861:

1861 England Census
about Thomas Denton Name: Thomas Denton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: West Yorkshire, Dalton

Civil parish: Dalton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Kirkheaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3260
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Denton 36 unm. Yarn Dealer
Thomas Denton 30 brother, unmarried Fancy weaver

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3260; Folio: 4; Page: 1; GSU roll: 543104.

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And on 1851:

1851 England Census
about Thomas Denton Name: Thomas Denton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary Denton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dalton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Dalton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Almondbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 2294
Folio: 600
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Denton 60 widow
Hannah Denton 38
James Denton 29
Sarah Ann Denton 26
Thomas Denton 20


at Nettleton

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2294; Folio: 600; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87490-87491.

Dea x

ARSTEE

ARSTEE Report 2 May 2011 23:50

Hi, please can anyone help me locate some people. Here is what i know already

George Denton. Born Nottingham 1853
Parents listed on his birth cert are James Denton & Martha Denton (formally Briggs)
Father - Labourer

Alice Denton (his sister) born Nottingham 1851.
Parents listed just the same as above

I can find no record of a marriage between James & Martha

George can only 1st be found on a census in 1871. Alice is married but her and her husband are there also living in Nottingham with a Thomas Denton (head). he is a widow. He can be traced back and appears on the 1861, 51 & 41 census living in Dalton / Kirkheaton - Huddersfield but only with his sister and previous to that his mum. No mention of a wife.

Also on the 1871 census is a William Denton & Thomas Denton (all listed as brothers to George). I can find no birth records for them or anything previous to this census and they disappear after this census as does Thomas also.

George & Alice are the only ones I can trace on from this 1871 census.

Thomas (head) has a brother called James who married a Sarah Briggs but they have a fully traceable history and don't appear to leave the Huddersfield area.

Hopefully someone could look at this please and maybe see something i haven't as I'd really like to get further back than George - plus it's driving me crazy not knowing where they popped up from and who everyone is )

George, on his marriage in 1873 names his father as deceased but he's gone from a labourer to a shop keeper ? I can see no death record for him.

both James and Martha couldn't sign their names and did so with a cross