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Hi Dee,
Hopefully it is the original, because it must be about somewhere.

Regards Vera

On the marriage between Mary and John Tubbs it says her father is Benjamin a boat builder.It is written very clearly.
Plus as stated before it doesn't say he was Deceased.

if it is the same one born in Ramsgate Kent 1813 with Mary/Mary Sophia born 1819 doesn't it say he was a Boot and Shoe maker in 1851/61/and possibly died 1865??

Maryb

Edit,been comparing signatures on marriage for John William Tubb and Mary on 1911 and they do look similar,especially the way she writes the Y.

I concur, they do look very similar. Let's hope the certificate the Bromley office send me is the original.

Could someone give me their opinion on the information given on Benjamin Ansell in the 1851 census where he is a boot and shoe maker. Beside the occupations of some of the men on the census there is something else written in brackets. Does it say (JMan) as in Journeyman? Also, Sophia
's age looks more like 28.

Nudge

Hi Dee,

I agree it is Jman as in Journeyman and Sophia's age 28

Regards Vera

Benjamin Ansell (cordwainer) married Sophia as a widower, in 1846. So he could be the Benjamin Anstell in Gillingham on the 1841 census with his wife, Mary. This one is a shipwright (boat builder). Can anyone find a Benjamin Anstell who is a boot maker on the 1841 census?

Thanks Vera,
I have sent a message to the GRO office asking them to tell me whether the copy of the marriage certificate (of George and Mary) is a true copy of the church records or one that was copied later. Apparently you get a reply within 5 days so we shall see. Bloomin naughty ancestors. ;-)

I have been looking up Benjamin Ansell-Anstell-Answell etc. all day but none of them had an occupation that I could find. But I could have missed something.Will re-check.

Benjn Ansell 1841
ANSELL, Benjn M 30 1811 VIEW ?? Outfitter
ANSELL, Mary D F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
ANSELL, Benjn M 7 1834 VIEW
ANSELL, Mary F 6 1835 VIEW
ANSELL, Henry M 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
ANSELL, Jemima F 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
LOWDAS, Fredk W M 20 1821 VIEW
HELLEN, Heny M 14 1827 VIEW

Christina,
I didn't know what a cordwainer was so I googled it. It's a shoemaker.

1851 Gillingham D2h > 26
13,Water Side
Benjamin Ansell Shipwright.
Mary Ansell
Stephen.
So this isn't the correct one,as he married Sophia 1846!!

Maryb

Oh no Mary! Does that mean we're back to square one?

Head is about to explode.........................

Just discovered Limehouse is right on the Thames which would make Mary's dad being a boat builder plausible.

Sorry getting confused, that Benjamin is the bootmaker. So Limehouse being beside the Thames is useless.

Girls,
Bit of family input here. Boot, Boat, not a million miles apart, different accent perhaps or a registrar who was slightly deaf!! . A mistake in what they thought she said. Perhaps they thought she said boat maker rather than bootmaker and changed it to boat builder. Am I grasping at straws?

Thats whay I thought Dee.....

That she had said Boot maker and was heard as boat maker...hence boat builder....

Not grasping at straws at all......



nicky

Particularly so if the registrar was from the north east of England .... maybe

Mary Sophia Tubb was born in a workhouse. Does this imply that her mother was no longer living with the father?

In the 1881 census John William (if it's the same one) was living with his mum, although the census says he was married there is no wife listed.