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Family missing in 1861 - HELP!!

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Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 16:22

I have a Louise/Louisa Player born 1858 in Westminster to a Samuel Player and Sarah Creamer. I have her in all censuses except the 1861???? She went on to marry Jerome Moon in 1885.



Maddie Report 4 Jul 2011 16:32

had a look but cannot find


brummiejan Report 4 Jul 2011 16:33

I can't see them either. Am transcribing 1871 for reference.

1871 England Census

Name: Susan Player
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Samuel Player
Mother's name: Sarah Player
Gender: Female
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St Margaret Westminster

Samuel Player 38
Sarah Player 36
Susan Player 17
Louisa Player 15
Mary Player 13
Sarah Player 10
Martha Player 10
Henry Player 8
Amelia Player 3
Rueben Player 2


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 16:37

Seems the whole family is missing??? Anyone know if anything was happening around 1861??


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 16:54

Is it normal for a whole family to have just dissapeared???


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 16:57

Some of the 1861 census pages are are some of the places from Middlesex

•Middlesex (including London) – all these parishes are part-missing: Inner Temple, St Bride, St Dunstan-in-the-West (hamlets Cliffords Inn and Serjeants Inn, Chancery Lane are missing), St Gregory by St Paul, St Mary Staining, St Michael-le Quern.

Although it doesn't include where they lived in 1871.

Regards Vera


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 17:14

In 1871 they were living in St. Margaret, they are still there in 1881 so I am assuming thats where they were? And in 1851 Samuel was living there with his parents so seems likely he stayed local. Would that come under one of the parishes? Why are they missing??


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 17:25

Some were damage by flood( water) and some just had pieces missing.

Really annoying, but unfortunately nothing to be done!!

Regards Vera


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 17:28

So is it likely that St margaret fell under those damaged?


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 17:30

Hi Victoria,
Can't actually say for certain, as it doesn't state St Margarets on the pieces missing....unless St Margarets came under another name.

Regards Vera


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 17:33

ok thank you will keep looking then just in case x


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 17:37

Just trying to find the address in 1861...from the 1871 census.

Regards Vera

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2011 17:38

Try putting in Westminster, parish St Margaret (no names)

Find My Past brings up 19 households...

(would have a look, but must get in kitchen!)

Chris :)


Choccy Report 4 Jul 2011 17:44

if this is Martha's birth - the certificate would possibly help with an address ?

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)

PLAYER Martha Amelia Westminster 1a 323


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 17:54

Have tried the address Dacre Street no trying Chris' suggestion. Just going to have my dinner. Try later

Regards Vera


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 17:55

I use ancestry and can bring up nothing :(


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 18:13

Re Choccys reply...Do you have Martha's birth certificate.

Regards Vera


Vera Report 4 Jul 2011 18:29

St Margarets, Westminster is on the 1861.....but still not having any luck.

Regards Vera


Victoria Report 4 Jul 2011 18:31

Sorry for delay, for some reason not all messages were showing, only one from Chris, need to refresh more often!

No I dont have her birth cert, may order that as it would help wouldn't it? On the registration index her birth shows as Westminster, St Margaret.

Thank you for your help so far everyone x


Londonbelle Report 4 Jul 2011 18:32

According to the description for enumeration districts; District 6 should have Dacre Street (where they were living in 1871 census) in it but I'm blowed if I can see it!!!