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Philip Clare 1806 Norfolk

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Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:17

Hi

Can anyone help me out in finding out Philip Clare's parents? He was born in 1806 Norfolk his wife was Elizabeth (children - philip, richard, hannah, mary, robert, amy, elijah, benjamin and jane)

Not sure where in Norfolk he was born but the family stayed in the same area for generations after him so could have connections to Flegg, Blofield, Ranworth.

Any help would be great. Thanks

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Aug 2011 23:23

is this him? for reference

1851
Name: Phillip Clare
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Clare
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ranworth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Ranworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Ranworth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Blofield
Sub-registration district: Blofield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 1819
Folio: 219
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Clare 46
Elizabeth Clare 40
Richard Clare 18
Hannah Clare 17
Mary Clare 12
Phillip Clare 10
Robert Clare 8
Amy Clare 5
Elizah Clare 2
Benjamin Clare 7 MO

say's born : Ranworth

Roy

Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:26

Yep thats the one. Think I've tried searching for Ranworth births/baptisms before but he doesn't come up. Maybe Philip wasn't his first name?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Aug 2011 23:26

possible father in 1851

Name: Phillip Clare
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Lodger
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ranworth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Ranworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Ranworth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Blofield
Sub-registration district: Blofield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 1819
Folio: 216
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Charles London 26
Eliza London 26
George London 1
Phillip Clare 71
Mary Dye 31
Eliza London 1w


Roy

Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:31

Yeah that makes sense. If thats Philip's father then that makes sense as Philip senior's grandson (also named Philip to confuse things even more) went on to marry into the London family.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Aug 2011 23:33

No wife with dad in 1841

Name: Phillip Clare
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Ranworth
Hundred: Walsham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Blofield
Sub-registration district: Walsham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 785
Book: 7
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Clare 60
Judith Clare 31
Martha Hall 60


Roy

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 5 Aug 2011 23:37

Do you have his children's baptisms? If not, they are here
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/ranworth.htm

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Aug 2011 23:38

looks like dad died in 1851?

Name: Philip Clare
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1851
Registration district: Blofield
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 17


Roy

Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:38

Thanks, Judith must be his daughter so will try looking for her birth/baptism.

Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:40

Joy - think i've got them but thank you!
Yes I saw that but there are several Philip Clare deaths in Blofield so I'm not sure who is who.

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 5 Aug 2011 23:44

You're welcome :)

May be Philip senior's baptism here in 1779
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1614846

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Aug 2011 23:47

Not Dad Philip's marriage but must be related

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: Robt Clare
Spouse: Elizth Wright
Marriage Date: 1802
Parish: Ranworth


Roy

Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:49

Think I've found Philip Snr and his wife! Thanks everyone for the help :)

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Judith Clere
gender: Female
birth date: 11 Jan 1809
birthplace: Ranworth With Paxworth, Buckenham, Norfolk, England
father's name: Philip Clere
mother's name: Hannah Gibbs

Kate

Kate Report 5 Aug 2011 23:51

Pork Pie - yes could be a relation. Can't see where in my tree yet though. To be honest that part of norfolk is filled with Clare/Clere's. If I could piece together who's who I think I'd have thousands of them!

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 5 Aug 2011 23:52

A popular surname in the area :)

"My" Philip senior's parents are Robert and Catharine.
However there is a burial for a Catharine wife of Robt.
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Burials&RecordID=1139115

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Aug 2011 23:54

the only marriage i can find for dad that would be about the correct date is this but a very long shot

Name: Philip Clare
Spouse Name: Catherine Weston
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 08 Jul 1804
Parish: St James, Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington

kate, just seen your post ref parents well done think you may have cracked it


Roy

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 5 Aug 2011 23:57

This is Philip's marriage in 1829?
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=501868

Kate

Kate Report 6 Aug 2011 00:26

Yes I think you were right with Philip snr's parents being robert and catherine. Also fairly sure that the marriage is right too. A big thank you for all the help!

Janice

Janice Report 3 Dec 2012 14:29

Just stumbled upon this thread. I have Philip Clare bap 13 Jun 1779 Ranworth married to Hannah Gibbs, 18 Apr 1804 at Horning, Norfolk. Hannah Gibbs was bap 23 Jan 1781 at Horning. Her parents were Samuel Gibbs and Mary Saul. Hannah's sister Judith born 1782 married Samuel Cole 26 Mar 1804 at Horning. Samuel and Judith were parents of Elizabeth Cole who married Philip Clare junior (born 1806). All rather cosy!