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Kim

Kim Report 11 Sep 2011 20:35

Just had a look at the IGI for the birth of an Edward Desborough around 1740 and came up with one baptised in Nassington, Northamptonshire, 10 May 1733, to Edward and Anne. You might like to keep him in your shoebox.

This area is quite difficult as there are several county boundaries all converging around Peterborough and given our ancestors' roving natures, they could be anywhere. Certainly one of mine went from Kings Cliffe (near Nassington) to Whittlesey. The good news is that Northamptonshire is quite well-covered on the very excellent freereg site!

BWs

Kim

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Sep 2011 08:07

(on looking round google the other day, think this is Marjorie's family 1911?)...

1911

DESBOROUGH, Willie Head Married M 23 1888 Mechanics Labourer Leeds Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, Mary Selina Wife Married
1 years F 20 1891 Leeds Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, Lawrence Son Single M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Leeds Yorkshire

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26876 Reference:
RG14PN26876 RG78PN1545 RD499 SD3 ED6 SN316

Registration District:
Bramley Sub District:
Wortley Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Armley and Bramley

Address:
18 Amberley Road County:
Yorkshire (West riding)


(on looking Search Trees here, Marjorie has a James Desborough b. 1811, Whittlesea, so one of the below)...

Baptisms
1805 DESBOROUGH James -s. of Thomas & Catherine Wisbech, St.Ptr. -
1809 DESBOROUGH James -s. of Thomas & Catharine Wisbech, St.Ptr. -
1812 DESBOROUGH James 3w -of James & Elizabeth Whittlesey *

(below are two Marriages from Find My Past, Cambs. Parish Records Collection)...


Parish Records Collection - marriage
Year: 1833

Supplied Surname: DESBOROUGH, DISBOROUGH

Surname: DESBOROUGH

Full First name: James

Supplied First Name: James

Spouse Surname: WHITE

Spouse Full First name: Elizabeth

Spouse First Name: Elizabeth

Place: WHITTLESEY ST ANDREW

County: Cambridgeshire
Boyds Marriage Index 1538 - 1840)


Parish Records Collection - marriage
Year: 1834

Supplied Surname: DESBOROUGH, DISBOROUGH

Surname: DESBOROUGH

Full First name: James

Supplied First Name: James

Spouse Surname: HARRIS

Spouse Full First name: Ann

Spouse First Name: Ann

Place: WISBECH ST PETER

County: Cambridgeshire


1871

DESBOROUGH, James Head M 58 1813 Cambridgeshire Whittlesea. (Gamekeeper)
DESBOROUGH, Elizabeth Wife F 58 1813 Cambridgeshire

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
4723 Folio:
65 Page:
11

Registration District:
Doncaster Sub District:
Bawtry Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Armthorpe Municipal Borough:
Address:
Rectory, Armthorpe County:
Yorkshire


1851

DESBOROUGH, Jas Head Married M 39 1812 Miller Ad Ag Laborer
Whittlesey
Cambridgeshire
DESBOROUGH, Elizh Wife Married F 39 1812
Whittlesey
Cambridgeshire
DESBOROUGH, Jane Daughter F 11 1840
Whittlesey
Cambridgeshire
DESBOROUGH, William Son M 9 1842
Whittlesey
Cambridgeshire

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1765 Folio:
178 Page:
36

Registration District:
Whittlesey Sub District:
Whittlesey Enumeration District:
1H & 2H Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Whittlesey Municipal Borough:
Address:
Water Mill, N G Near Station?, Whittlesey County:
Cambridgeshire




(is this the James Marjorie is following?)...


I think the Huntingdon Desborough family is a different one from the Whittlesea one.


(useful link below for Cambridgeshire Baptisms and Burials 1801 - 1837)

http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html


Hoping some of this helps Marjorie get sorted a bit, with so much of the Huntingdon family on google, it is confusing!.

Chris :)














AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Sep 2011 10:04

Huntingdon Birth Registry - bmd-certificates.co.uk
bmd-certificates.co.uk ... Registrars of Births, Deaths and Marriages for the Huntingdon District: Sub-districts : Huntingdon; Ramsey; Sawtry; Spaldwick. GRO volumes: XIV (1837-51); 3b (1852-1930). ... Huntingdon Cambridgeshire PE29 3DH ...
Cambridgeshire, England Genealogy - Search Surname, Census ...
Cambridgeshire genealogy; links to Cambridgeshire online resources; archives, libraries, censuses, ... West by Bedfordshire, Huntingdonshire, and Northamptonshire; greatest length, North and South, 48 miles; ... England & Wales BMDs ...

www.genealogy-of-uk.com/England/Cambridgeshire/geneal... - Similar
Huntingdonshire, England Genealogy - Search Surname, ...
"Huntingdonshire, Huntingdon, or Hunts, inland county, South Midland ...

www.genealogy-of-uk.com/England/Huntingdonshir... - Similar

[ More results from www.genealogy-of-uk.com ]
England and Wales: Online Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes
17 Jun 2011 ... The Official Non-Parochial BMDs Service with online searches of birth, ... Cambridgeshire County Council CAMDEX Online Records to Birth, ...

www.coraweb.com.au/ukbdm.htm - Similar

www.bmd-certificates.co.uk/registry/huntingdon.html - Similar


Marjorie

Marjorie Report 18 Sep 2011 13:39

Kim
Thanks for ll that info, this is my family in the 1841 census
the family lived at Barton Lane Wisbeach St Peter

Thomas Desborough 70 BUT I think Thomas was baptised as James
Catherine Desborough 65
James Desborough 30
John Desborough 25
Thomas Desborough 25,

Thomas Jr was my ancestor,born Whittelsea 1770 - 1869, his son James born in Whittelsea 1816 , was my Grt Grandfather and his son was my grandfather James born in St Ives 1850 -1889.

Laurence was a name some one on Ancestor.co.uk had on their tree as my Thomas Sr father but am begining to think this is not right


Hope you can help ,me with this Kim

Marjorie

Marjorie Report 18 Sep 2011 14:00

Chris

Your post dated 12 Sept
DESBOROUGH, Willie Head Married M 23 1888 Mechanics Labourer Leeds Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, Mary Selina Wife Married
1 years F 20 1891 Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
DESBOROUGH, Lawrence Son Single M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Leeds Yorkshire
These are my grandparents bless him Granddad was baptised as Willie was on some census as Willie on others asWilliam on his WW1 record again he was Willie on on and on his medal info William, his brothers where James and John so you did have the right family, I did not have any info of James marrige so thanks for that

All three boys were born at Whittlesea.

I will now try and sort out which of the James you gave me is the right one unless he was married twice

Once again ty for info I really can not thank you all enough


Marj

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Sep 2011 07:50

Just trying to unravel this a bit, but not sure if I've got the plot, lol...

So you are following the family below on 1841...


1841

DESBOROUGH, Thomas M 70 1771 (Farmer)
DESBOROUGH, Catherine F 65 1776
DESBOROUGH, James M 30 1811 Cambridgeshire (Agents Clerk)
DESBOROUGH, John M 25 1816 Cambridgeshire
DESBOROUGH, Thomas M 25 1816
DARKINS, Elizabeth F 15 1826

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
79 Book/Folio:
6 Page:
7

Registration District:
Wisbech Sub District:
Wisbech St Peter Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Wisbech St Peter Municipal Borough:
Address:
Barton Lane, Wisbech St Peter County:
Cambridgeshire


From the link below, this is James Baptism...

http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html


1809 DESBOROUGH James - ----- s. of Thomas & Catharine Wisbech, St.Ptr.


Then 1851?...

1851

DESBOROUGH, James Head Married M 41 1810 Accountant
Wisbech St Peters
Cambridgeshire
DESBOROUGH, Ann Wife Married F 52 1799
Lynn
Norfolk

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1766 Folio:
231 Page:
25

Registration District:
Wisbech Sub District:
Wisbech St Peter Enumeration District:
1B Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Wisbech St Peters Municipal Borough:
Wisbech Address:
North Brink, Wisbech St Peters, Wisbech County:
Cambridgeshire


Have you got the Census with James born 1850 St. Ives on?


(thinking it might be Whittlesey and Wisbech mudddled here, with Lincs. thrown in too!, as some seem to move up Yorks. way)


(Burial of above Thomas on 1841)

Parish Records Collection Burial
Forenames: Thomas

Surname: Desborough

Residence: of Barton Lane

Day: 1

Month: Mar

Year: 1850

Age: 80

Parish: Wisbech, St Peter

County: Cambridgeshire

Chris :)


edits, To go back from your 1911, who are the the parents on the below Birth Cert...and have you got their Marriage Cert?...(to help get back further)


Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DESBOROUGH Willie Bramley 9b 352




Marjorie

Marjorie Report 19 Sep 2011 16:43

Ok Chris

Here we go I have got a copy of Willie aka William birth certifica he was born on 25/11/1888 to James Thomas Desborough and Mary Jane Thorpe at 33 Holdforth Street New Worthy

I have a copy of his marrige to Mary Selina Bygraves, on this he is down as William this was in 1910 and it has his father down as deseased

I have a copy of Thomas James Desborough and Mary Jane Thorpe in 1875 on this copy it gives Thomas father as Thomas as well
But Thomas went by James for some reason, I know this is right as as my Mum remeber that her Mary Jane Thorpe married twice after Grandad James died, and i have followed it through via family etc

I am not sure if you have the right James though please let me know

Marj

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Sep 2011 17:05

From googling round I came across a posting of yours, not sure if link below will work!.

http://msngroup.aimoo.com/EnglishandIrishFamilySearch/dtof.msnw-action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=3516&LastModified=4675646578790528568.htm


Found the 1875 Marriage, now on Yorks. Ance***y collection. So father of Willie, was Thomas James Desborough born 1850 Holbeach, Lincs.

1881

DESBOROUGH, Thomas J Head Married M 30 1851 Drayman
St Ives
Lincolnshire
DESBOROUGH, Mary Jane Wife Married F 28 1853
Garforth
Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, Eliza A Daughter Single F 4 1877
Leeds
Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, John T Son Single M 3 1878
Leeds
Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, James A Son Single M 0 1881
New Wortley
Yorkshire

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4504 Folio:
163 Page:
49

Registration District:
Bramley Sub District:
Wortley Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Wortley Municipal Borough:
Address:
16, Pickards Bldgs, Wortley County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

(I don't think that should be St Ives!, wondering about a Sutton, St James, Lincs. not sure)


He needs to be found from 1851 onwards, his Marriage 1875 just gives his father as Thomas, Labourer...


(do you have his 1850 Birth Cert.?)

Births Sep 1850 (>99%)

Desborough Thomas James Holbeach 14 446


Quite a few of these Desboroughs about, not making things easy lol...

Chris :)






Kim

Kim Report 19 Sep 2011 18:05

ST MARYS, WHITTLESEY:
Children of William & Rebecca:
John Desbury bap 25 May 1790
Edward Desborough bap 13 Mar 1793 bur 19 Oct 1794
Thomas Desborough bap 14 Mar 1794 bur 15 Jun 1794
Rebecca Desborough bap 7 Aug 1795
Sarah Desboro bap 10 Jan 1797
Rebecca Desboro bap 19 Aug 1798
Hanna Desboro bap 30 Sep 1799
Rebecca Desbrough bap 9 Dec 1801 bur 5 Jan 1802
Edward Desborough bap 1 Feb 1803 bur 12 Mar 1803

Buried 24 Aug 1804 Rebecca Desbury wife of William


Will send more later. Looks like the first two Rebeccas died but not buried at St Mary's.

BWs

Kim

Kim

Kim Report 19 Sep 2011 18:32

Here are some marriages/banns from St Andrew's, Whittlesey:

1823 13 Oct Richard GERMAN x & Hannah DESBOROUGH x
Wits: Joseph Cook, Sarah x Desborough, William Holmes

1825 25 Jul Thomas BOYCE x & Sarah DESBOROUGH
Wits: Ralph Boyce, Sarah x Boyce

1833 15 Apr James DESBOROUGH x & Elizabeth WHITE x
Wits: John x Woodward, Amey x Ellthorpe

1886 14 Dec Levi ANKER lab, 22, of James, lab & Julia DESBOROUGH 22 of Whittlesey St Mary, of George, lab
Wits: Robert Anker, Sarah Desborough

BANNS
1828 14 Sep Francis GILBY of Wisbech St Mary & Meedy DESBOROUGH, widow

1830 15 Aug Thomas ATKIN & Elizabeth DESBOROUGH

1830 7 Nov John WOODWARD & Jane DESBOROUGH

1845 12 Oct William LANGLEY & Mary DESBOROUGH

1846 11 Oct John COX & Ann DESBOROUGH

Marjorie

Marjorie Report 20 Sep 2011 18:57

Kim
This is my Thomas's bro 1833 15 Apr James DESBOROUGH x & Elizabeth WHITE x
Wits: John x Woodward, Amey x Ellthorpe

I can not find Thomas James wife, and apart from the fact I found the three sons on a census would think James and Thomas are one and the same

In the 1841 census the family lived at Barton Lane
Wisbeach St Peter

Thomas Desborough 70
Catherine Desborough 65
James Desborough 30
John Desborough 25
Thomas Desborough 25

So far can not find them on 1851 csnsus

Its so strange as I have his children

Oh well will look again tomorrow

Marjorie

Marjorie Report 20 Sep 2011 19:01

Chris

This is part of Thomas and Mary Ann's family

1881

DESBOROUGH, Thomas J Head Married M 30 1851 Drayman
St Ives
Lincolnshire
DESBOROUGH, Mary Jane Wife Married F 28 1853
Garforth
Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, Eliza A Daughter Single F 4 1877
Leeds
Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, John T Son Single M 3 1878
Leeds
Yorkshire
DESBOROUGH, James A Son Single M 0 1881
New Wortley
Yorkshire

I will have to see if i can get Thomas/James birth cert to find out who his mother is, troubel is i have lost the site where i can appy for it

Thanks for your help so far

Marj

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Sep 2011 19:28

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp

On above link Marjorie, hopefully that will help us a lot!...fingers crossed.

Chris :)

Kim

Kim Report 21 Sep 2011 09:46

Marjorie,

There are some more to come from Whittlesey, sorry, I don't have the Wisbech PRs but they are available from Cambs Family History Society. Unfortunately, they do charge quite a bit for them...more than any other FHS I've prurchased from :-(

Best wishes

Kim in Hull

Marjorie

Marjorie Report 28 Sep 2011 14:29

Thanks Chris for the link

Kim also thanks for all te info you have given me

Marj

Rex

Rex Report 8 Jan 2013 20:39

I have just stumbled across this correspondence relating to the Desborough family in Cambridgeshire. Does anyone please have any records or connections relating to a Mary Desborough (or Disbrow) who married Robert Stevens in Stow-cum-Quy by licence on 5th January 1785? This was Robert's second marriage and he came fro Bottisham. Thanks.

Rex Stevens

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Jan 2013 22:03

Hello Rex,
not sure if Marjorie has a connection, click on her name, and send her a message, if GR have her current e mail address she should receive it.

Chris :)

(if no luck, try starting your own 'Thread', stating all info. you have)