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Hi, i am searching through the family of William Franklin my maternal grandfather who was born @ 1870, also his dad also William Franklin born @ 1845....there seems to be a large possible family connections . found you on the advance search. Is is possible the two names above are related to any of the Franklins you have listed. thanking you, Susan

Ben 1837 has a tree on Ancestry in which he marries again and has 4 sons, It states that Martha was baptised and married as Mary Ann but known as Martha!! There is the Mary Ann marriage to William George Franklin that I found earlier but I can't find a baptism so still no lead to her parents even IF she was Mary Ann

PM from Lynda who didn't previously have the above baptisms, so Lynda, here are their addresses ans Williams occupation at those times

23/08/1835 Will 1. Add looks like WROG Occ Can??.Merchant (terrible writing)
07/10/1838 Will 2 Ratcliff HIghway - Beer Seller
04/01/1837 Ben - Gloucester Terrace - Traveller
10/10/1841 Will 3 - 5 Gloucester Terrace - Traveller
21/08/1842 - Thomas - Gloucester Terrace - Traveller
09/02/1845 Alfred Ritchie - 21 Great Turner Street - Commercial Traveller
30/12/1849 Martha Ann - Turner Street - Commercial Traveller

Annie M in 1881 was the daughter of Ben who was a widower in 1871

1871 address 24 Kings Road, Upper Chelsea

Name: Annie M Franklin
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Benjamin Franklin
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 89
Folio: 77
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Franklin 34
Martha A Franklin 60
Martha A Franklin 20
William Franklin 31
Mary A Jeavons 20
Annie M Franklin 6 Months


Annies baptism, she was born 03/10/1870 address as 24 Kings Road Chelsea daughter of Ben and Mary Maria he was an outfitter (which fits in with census occupations)

Name: Annie Mary Franklin
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1870
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1870
Father's Name: Benjamin Franklin
Mother's Name: Mary Maria Franklin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea Holy Trinity
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Death of Ben's wife Mary Maria

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1870 (>99%)
Franklin Mary Maria 32 Chelsea 1a 199

Possible marriage of Ben and Mary Maria

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
Clark Ellen Hackney 1b 550
>>>Franklin Benjamin Hackney 1b 550
Gardner George Hackney 1b 550
>>>Hughes Mary Maria Hackney 1b 550


Wendy

Possible for 1841 as Ann but William was a traveller which is what he was for most of the childrens baptisms. It also in the right area to tie in with baptisms


Benn Franklin
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Stepney
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Upper
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 712
Book: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Franklin 31
Ann Franklin 29
Benn Franklin 4
Elizabeth Cram 20 was a servant

1871 Kings Road, Upper Chelsea (Martha a widow)

Martha A Franklin
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 89
Folio: 77
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Franklin 34
Martha A Franklin 60
Martha A Franklin 20
William Franklin 31
Mary A Jeavons 20
Annie M Franklin 6 Months
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1881 address Westwood Bexley Kent


Martha A. Franklin
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Bexley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Westwood
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Bexley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 860
Folio: 35
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha A. Franklin 70
William Franklin 41
Martha Franklin 31
Annie M. Franklin 10
Jane W. Hoddy 23

Have you got these from Ancestry London Births and Baptisms 1830 - 1906

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William Franklin 23 Aug 1835 William George Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Tower Hamlets
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Benjamin Franklin 4 Jan 1837 William George Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Tower Hamlets
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William Franklin 10 Oct 1841 William George Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin Stepney St Philip Tower Hamlets
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Alfred Ritchie Franklin 9 Feb 1845 William Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin Stepney St Philip Tower Hamlets
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Martha Ann Franklin 30 Dec 1849 William George Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin Stepney St Philip Tower Hamlets
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William Franklin 7 Oct 1838 William George Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin St George in the East Tower Hamlets
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Thomas Franklin 21 Aug 1842 William George Franklin,
Martha Ann Franklin St George in the East Tower Hamlets

POSSIBLE death for Martha
Name: Martha Ann Franklin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1885
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 258 (click to see others on page)

Oooops sorry Lynda, I wasn't paying enough attention

Wendy x

her name was definately Martha not mary ann
thank you

Is this her marriage

on, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Ann Aylott
Name: Mary Ann Aylott
Spouse Name: William Franklin
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 15 Sep 1830
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
County: London
Borough: City of London

Witnesses were George Hicks and Edward Greenfield. William signed and Martha put her X

well that certainly sounds like it could be her parents

thank you so much for your help i really do appreciate it.
lynda

a sister maybe
Name: Elizabeth Aylott
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1825
Baptism Date: 30 Jan 1825
Father's Name: John Aylott
Mother's Name: Martha Mary Aylott
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets

no baptism showing for her or a marriage.
?? a brother
Name: John Aylott
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1819
Baptism Date: 10 Jan 1819
Father's Name: John Aylott
Mother's Name: Martha Mary Aylott
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets

will it possible to trace Martha Aylotts parents?

yes i know Benjamin was born in 1837 so all the dates for births are correct

No marriage showing but it may be at the LMA

so the eldest was born pre registration
Name: Benjamin Franklin
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1837
Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1837
Father's Name: William George Franklin
Mother's Name: Martha Ann Franklin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets

yes thats def the family thank you

or this one?
Name: Martha Ann Franklin
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Geo Franklin
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: St. Georges, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Upper
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 1552
Folio: 262
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Geo Franklin 41
Martha Ann Franklin 39
Benjamin Franklin 14
William Franklin 11
Thomas Franklin 8
Alfred Franklin 6
Martha Ann Franklin 2
Mary Cobly 17


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1552; Folio: 262; Page: 7; GSU roll: 174782-174783.

they lived in the east london area